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Why dance music died....


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"The dance club culture I used to work in eventually died because, take all the drugs you like, at the end of the day there's nothing there, it doesn't *mean* anything," he says. "Rock'n'roll means something because Jimi Hendrix died and Kurt Cobain died, because of Woodstock and the Isle of Wight Festival and The Sex Pistols. Our readers don't want vacuous good-looking guys playing pretty tunes. Coldplay and Radiohead are eternal favourites with them because their music touches you, it's there for a reason, it has depth."

Conor McNicholas, NME.

 

 

Rather tasteless to suggest that to 'keep it real' a culture needs corpses. Classic Middle Class white boy bedroom fantasy trash.

 

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the thing is, it hasnt died...

 

 

Jimi Hendrix, Sex Pistols, Nirvana, Radiohead and Woodstock - that's a really interesting line of thought. Bit like joining the dots between Kraftwerk, Grandmaster Flash and the Beastie Boys (?) and ending up with Big Brovavs and the Prince's Trust concert in the park.

 

 

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will try and giv that a listen

 

 

 

all back to (not) mine

 

Gramme - Rehab (Output)

Doug E Fresh - I-ight (4th & Broadway)

Bob Dylan - Mozambique (CBS)

Hamilton Bohannon - Let's Start The dance (London)

Public Image Limited - Albatross (Virgin)

Tappa Zukie - MPLA (Virgin)

David Bowie - Queen Bitch (RCA)

Rare Pleasure - Let Me Down Easy (Strut) (only got this on another comp, apologies to any sticklers for autheticity)

Electric Prunes - Holy Are You (CBS)

George Kranz - Din Da Da (4th & Broadway)

Raphael Green/Dr Alimantado - Rasta Train (Upsetter/Trojan)

Photon Inc - Give A Little Love (Mid 80's Acid House Mix) (ffrr)

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Forgive this brief interruption but I wonder whether some of those who have died young - Morrison, Hendrix, Joplin, Cobain, Sid, Lennon, even Elvis, Hutchence, etc - whilst their passing gave longevity to their music and the cult, don't you think that in a number cases, their best years 'creatively' were behind them?

 

I heard a quote once that when an un-named record company Executive heard of Elvis' death, he said "Good career move".

 

[Err... Sorry about that. I don't often contribute to these threads as, usually, I don't know who you're all talking about.]

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For once AFF, i think that i agree with you and we're on the same wavelength.

 

I think that possibly the reason why these "classic" artisits are now remembered as "greats" was because they did die during their career. During being the word here.

 

Although they died during their career, it wouldn't necessarily mean at the hight of their career, but because they are now dead, they are classed as ledgeons.

 

However, they did all do fantastic music, and well, i for one know 2 of them, so different generations know them as well!!!!

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ne way back to the point

 

some corkin new Dance tunes...

 

 

Candi Staton : Do Your Duty : Pepe Braddock remix [Honest Jons]

Spymusic : The Cloak [2000 Black]

I Love Soha - Seas & Sirens (Poussez)

Spektrum - Kinda New

 

and a poser

VOODOO RAY sampled which well known comedian?

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

not enough music been talked this week so decide to bump this back up there...

 

Kurt Cobain was a smackhead and irresponsible father. His suicide has no bearing on the validity of his music either way.

 

I doubt the Sex Pistols had much time for the idea of rock n roll "meaning" anything. I doubt John Lydon is a Coldplay fan. Music isn't about meaning, it's about making you feel something.

 

Indie kids perpetuate a tiresome "us and them" mentality, as if music is some kind of either / or deal and exists in 2 distinct genres. Personally, for me the only genres are "good" and "bad". Fearing what you don't understand is the building block of racisim (quite literally if you look at these people's record collections sometimes).

 

The NME is a worthless major label pawn these days. You can read it from cover to cover in less than half an hour. It features the same bands EVERY WEEK. Literally. I can't remember the last time the Libertines weren't in there.

If I'm at home, I'll listen to Curtis or Steely Dan or Pixies or whatever. This is irrelevant. No music satisfies all needs at all times.

If Conor's talking about the commercial superclub b0llocks being vacuous, then he's right. But that was never anything to do with me in the first place. I'm glad that it's gone. Back to the program...

The Franz Ferdinand album is mediocre, IMO. I've listened to it a few times as well.

People have always and will always dance, and will always require music to dance to. It is the primary music form, and everything else stems from it. I wasn't around at the dawn of man, but I suspect that the first music was a communal activity as part of rituals and general gatherings (like a club or party, duh) and didn't involve some skinny middle class kid moaning about not being able to get laid.

 

The quicker people stop treating musical genres like they're football teams, the better.

 

the other thing to note about NME journalists is that usually they judge all music in terms of monlithic albums and conecpts, they can't deal with a track / singles based musical culture. Unless you're making a concept album about something, it isn't important I guess....

...but then you look at their "100 greatest albums of all time" and there's not one Stevie Wonder or Miles Davis or Steely Dan album on there, but Oasis are at like number 3 or something, so they obviously don't really listen to many albums either.

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I agree about NME - I'm just waiting for them to start printing the words to songs, then they will have become Smash Hits. It may be me just getting older, but NME has dumbed down loads over the last few years. It takes me about 10 mins to flick through the pages - the interviews seem to be one massive colour photo and a few lines of NME talking bullsh*t, their reviews are crap - they miss out loads of good albums, singles etc. I stopped buying it - it the end I seemed only to be interested in the Sister Ray advert at the back, which outlined all the weeks new releases - and they stopped printing that. F**k NME! The web is the best place to find out about new bands etc.

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"Meaning" is a personal thing. A song can mean volumes to one person but be considered a pile of sh*te to another. It is down to a matter of choice (until, of course, New Labour insist that we listen to what is their choice).

 

Actually, coming on to your point about Stevie Wonder, I did see "Songs In The Key Of Life" in one of the latest (yawn) Q lists...Actually encouraged me to find the damn thing and play it!!!

 

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