Are you over-sixed ?

[Guest]

Seems that FIFA have corrected a misnomer that has caught everyone on the hop in pre-season friendlies and, in particular our friends in Black. You CAN use more than six subs in a friendly match , the change of rule was for Internationals only according to the press today.

[Football Man]

Pity it took them so long to correct themselves. Wycombe Wanderers played the last 15 minutes at Beaconsfield last Friday with nine men as they picked up two injuries having used all six subs!

[Football Man]

I notice that no-one has mentioned the new "blood" rule yet. This is going to have a large impact on clubs at our level. If a player receives a cut during a game and gets blood on their shirt, shorts, socks or boots, they will have to leave the field immediately and not be allowed back on until the bloodied article(s) has been replaced. Not a major problem with shorts or socks but it could mean having to have an extra set of numbered shirts on standby. Not sure yet if referees will allow players to change their number if they have to change their shirt but there will be cost implications if they can't.

[Steph]

What is the purpose of this farcical rule?

[Football Man]

Health & Safety regarding the transfer of blood from one player to another should contact be made with a blood-stained item of kit.

 

I agree with the principle behind the idea. I just feel it is yet another cost to clubs at this level of the game.

[MbrunoB]

Why not have a spare shirt with a letter insted of a number then when a shirt is changed everything will be clear about it.

[Jim Cunneen]

Quite right Brunob and a good idea!

 

Steph - hardly farcical but a sensible rule to a very real problem. Time to join the real world I think.

[andyetfc]

I suppose Les Gold will have to wash the offending items separately?

[Jim Cunneen]

No not necessary!

 

Come on andy you are not another of the "this is madness"band are you?

[Steph]

What risk is there with dried blood on a football pitch.

 

Can anyone name a single case of an infectious disease being caught from dried blood.

 

Dried blood coagulates and forms a hard surface very quickly. Leave the offending item for around 10 secs and we have a blood clot with no risk.

 

There is more chance of the player catching pneumonia from having to change his shirt and socks.

 

Jim it is the world that has gone mad.

 

>>Brunob. W Whiskey "I am in need of medical attention"????????

 

Explain.

[MbrunoB]

A cut bleeds until it is stopped, drop will dry.

I was always told,better safe than sorry.

what is that last bit about?

[Steph]

Well you chose your Avatar, I assume.

 

Just as there is no such thing as perfect security there is no such thing as perfect safety.

 

"[***!!***] (Moderator thought police S**t) happens" and the sooner the western world appreciates that the better we will be.

 

ALL RISK CANNOT BE ELIMINATED BUT HAS TO BE ASSESSED.

 

For example you will hear or read almost weekly news bulletins about having to reduce accidents on the roads however there are more deaths from accidents in the home then there are on the roads but this get barely a mention.

 

Did you know that there are 400 deaths a year from falls on the stairs in domestic premises yet the number of houses I visit where there is not even a handrail on the stairs. 400 deaths a year when most people live in flats or bungalows and spends very little time on the stairs.

 

I laid down the challenge and you have not answered - name an infectious disease that has been caused by dried blood. Anthrax is a possibility however a footballer with anthrax would be very unusual.

[Jim Cunneen]

Grow up!

The transfer of AIDS and Hepatitus is very real from transfer of blood.

 

Why the hell do you think Rugby has had blood bins for ages.

[Steph]

There has been no case of Hepatitis or HIV being transmitted from dried blood. There has to be exchange of bodily fluids the viruses cannot survive outside the body for any length of time.

 

I knew we would get someone promoting old wive's tales eventually.

 

You had a better case sticking to anthrax!

 

The whole idea is probably to ensure that the shirt manufacturers make a few bob more.

[Steph]

Next it will be seriously claimed that you can get sexually transmitted diseases from lavatory seats.

[Arkwright]

How quickly would blood dry on a warm already damp shirt?

[Steph]

As quick as it would on a warm damp body. So long as there is enough vitamin K in the blood supply.

 

For the transmission of HIV or Hepatitis there needs to be thorough mixing of body fluids. In other words someone has to have an open bleeding wound in order to receive the virus from another open bleeding wound.

 

Even this is unlikely to result in transmission as blood has the useful effect of flowing out of the body when a person is wounded thus cleansing the wound and removing pathogens. These illnesses are not that infectious.

 

If the possibility of transmission by a dried blood on a shirt was even likely there would be a public health case for banning boxing or wrestling where there is a greater risk of mixing of bodily fluids.

 

 

[Southport - TOWNER]

didn't ETFC have a team visiting us last season who played in an old Watford kit, and some of the shirts had no number.

 

Refs could always take a pragmatic view; but then this is the ESL

[Jim Cunneen]

Steph,

 

I suggest that your comments about the Western World show your true feelings about this subject. But then again have no old wife.

As for me I still believe it to be a good idea and will leave it as that.

[Steph]

Agree to disagree Jim

 

Regards