Thanet District Council perspective

[Margate Don]

The post on the TDC website has a slightly different perspective (see below). Still it does seem like the Council and Football Club are at last trying to work together. The one distinctly different bit of news to me was that we still have at least 3 months to go before planning permission could be in place - definately rules out conference football at HDP in August then.

 

MARGATE FOOTBALL CLUB UPDATE

 

Senior Council representatives met with the Nationwide Conference League Board, at the request of Margate Football Club project team yesterday for an update on the club’s position with their development plans at Hartsdown Road.

 

The Council, represented by the Strategic Director for Finance Ms Jennifer Seeley and Thanet District Council’s newly appointed Cabinet member for Leisure, Culture and Tourism, Cllr Roger Latchford OBE, were asked by the board to outline the Council’s position on the development.

 

Ms Seeley emphasized the Council’s dual role in terms of the Council’s responsibilities as a planning authority and as landowner.

 

In explaining to the Conference Board the Statutory constraints the Council faces over planning applications Ms Seeley stated that currently no detailed planning applications had been submitted for the redevelopment of the site and this meant that until those plans were received the processing of the application could not begin. She also made it clear that no agreement currently existed for any lease for commercial development.

 

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The Council explained that the processing of the application would begin as soon as possible following its receipt. But the Council’s responsibility lay with the whole of Thanet and proper consultation on the proposals had to take place.

 

The planning approval stages required realistically meant that a new stadium was unlikely this season. This was also due to the Club’s funding partners' requirement that the rebuilding of the new stadium is dependant on an agreement for the extensive redevelopment of the site.

 

Immediately prior to the meeting the club unveiled a new layout for their development which had not previously been shared with the Council.

 

10/05/2004

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[MargateFan]

To be honest, they always have a different perspective.

If anyone can clear this up I would be grateful, but when the Stadia project was alive last year, before the company went pear-shaped was there not full permission for that development, including a commercial side?

And did the club not say that Option E was considered an amendment to that permission rather than a new application?

I am totally confused.

 

 

[Guest]

Great post Don-all makes sense .

 

Good to get TDC perspective.

 

Would help with alot of the speculation if club could put the complete case.

 

This TDC statement makes things reasonably succinct at last

[Guest]

it would seem that it must be on option F,since tdc have now recieved a drawing not been seen before.

[MargateFan]

Am I missing something or is TDC still saying no to everything? Is this not where we have been since January?

Anyone seen a yes?

[Guest]

[color:"blue"]We have planning permission for a Football Stadium, which is still valid (provided it's not moved from position where original conscent placed it).

What we haven't got is conscent for the Commercial Build - which is what plans A-E (F?) has been about. [/color]

[Margate Don]

My take - and I claim no expertise here - TDC are in principal going along with the HDP development but they still require the detailed architect's plan or whatever it is. The process required to get that detailed plan will, by the sounds of it, take 3 months at least and only then can a definite yes be given by the council. Whether that timeline can be reduced by a limited development to make Conference South standard I'm really not sure. We do at least seem to be getting information albeit somewhat unclear - I guess what we need now is a definite plan of action and it seems that may still be some way off.

[Guest]

yes peter. plan F would seem to be a new plan that was presented at the conference meeting last week that had NOT been seen by anyone from the council.

[Cookie]

You believe the t.d.c then you believe anyone.They are a joke and this supposed new plan is just another way of delaying matters. Will have to go and see for myself this new plan but am guessing that it dosen't exist.

[Guest]

According to KP Option F does not exist.

[zhukov]

When have this TDC ever agreed to anything in connection with the club?

 

Will they ever agree to anything other than the club quitting Hartsdown?

[Guest]

Trust me T.D.C wantfootball at hartsdown but under there rules.Had the misfortune to bump into Mr S.E.He was talking to Ian Day on Friday, he thought thursdays meeting was a joke he spoke of plan f and said what does that mean.

[alan the fly]

How about we say sod the commercial development and think about it at later stage and just build the football stadium which we have permission for.

 

Also where Ms Seeley says that no planning permission has been recieved this appears to me to be complete rubbish.

 

The reason I say this is because if you look at www.thanet.gov.uk and click on planning applications there are 4 planning applications that are relative to our ground.

 

However, i am not sure whether these refer to the original development that was proposed by Stadia Management.

 

If they are then i apologise to the council for doubting them

[David Holden]

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Also where Ms Seeley says that no planning permission has been recieved this appears to me to be complete rubbish.

 

 

What she axtually said was that no DETAILED planning application had been received.

[MargateFan]

I don't think it would matter whether it was detailed or not. To any question, the council's answer appears to be no. At least they are consistent I suppose.