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so some town centres are now no go zones as teenagers go mental after 7 snakebites.. the police admit they have lost control .. what would you do if you were in charge..

 

option a. tax the pubs and clubs and bring in a load of regulations and fine any offy that sells beer to anyone underage enough to make a motorist wince..

 

i cant imagine to many new labour types have worked in a offy recently, but if you were working the till and a bunch of 16 yr olds came in wanting beer would you turn em down..? Q loads of abuse some petty vandalism, possibly a slap maybe worse.. you could of course slap the little runt back but the police would be on you like a shot.. of course if you called the police to help you disperse the rowdy twats expect them there some time next week..

 

option b, get 200 coppers on the beat on a sat night and arrest any pissed up twats smashing the place up.. then bang em up for 6 weeks and fine them enough to keep them out of baseballs caps for a few months..

 

typical new labour, faced with a problem they ignore the cause and then tax and regulate oh and expect shop assistants to do the polices job..

 

vote tory.. or anything else other than these twats

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apparently it nearly happened on canvey a while back with a group of youths causing mayhem in the high street at night..

some people got together to refuse to pay the 'police part' of their council tax.. i think some others favoured er ahem .. more direct action..

it will happen

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Put coppers on the street at night, the only problem now is where do you find the old time coppers who can handle these situations

The present mob are all drivers or stationed behind tree!s waiting to jump out on old ladies doing 36mph in 30mph areas

And you might just need a few who do!nt have to run around in a shower to get wet, more chance of getting s.h.1.2 out of a rocking horse

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Sorry but i have kept quiet on this subject long enough........The point is........Parents are failing in their duties of disciplinning their kids......If they were taught right from wrong at home.....Police would have a far easier job.........i was brought up to respect the Police......and to respect the Law they stood for!

If i went home and said a Policeman had stopped me for something.......i was in trouble with my parents.........now it is lets go Sue the Pigs!

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Sorry but i have kept quiet on this subject long enough........The point is........Parents are failing in their duties of disciplinning their kids......


[color:"blue"] Sorry USA, but they ain't allowed too these days, even IF they wanted to.............

Slap yer kid today, and yule have some namby-pamby lesbial Social Worker taking yer ter court for aboosin' yer kids !

[color:"red"] Bleedin' Choice, I call it !! [color:"black"]
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Bang on, but the police do not help their own case, parents of today are split into two readily indentifiable groups, those who care and pondlife

But we have the off spring of the pond life to deal with and getting them to pay respect to a uniform is a no go, no chance event

 

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I agree...(even with pabird.... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />)...and therein lies the problem...our kids are taught at school that new labour policies will protect them from abuse....which also includes a wack from mum or dad it seems....

 

there is no answer...well there is and pabird has touched on it......but there never will be policemen of the calibre needed to control the streets again in this country.....christ...we dont recruit proper policemen...we recruit politically correct woofters and fckin socialist tossas who see being in the police force as the start of a political career...ask 'em to clean the streets up and they report in sick and fckin sue the force for stress....

 

in my younger days we went out on a friday...got pissed...had a fight with another group of lads.....(if we hadn't pulled that is).....

 

then the police heavies arrived and broke it up...and they were proper heavies as well....one word out of place and we got beaten to [****!!****]....locked up all night...thrown out in the morning with full apologies to the coppers and then had to go home and face another battering off the old lady....

 

by 12 noon we were in the pub larfin about it and the very same coppers who'd fckin hammered us the night before used to come in and have a drink with us as they went off duty....

 

''see ya next week lads'' was the cry....

 

we weren't angels but we knew our place and we respected law and order.....

 

there is no actionable answer and there wont be safety on the streets again in this country.....

 

but there will be another tony martin real soon..... <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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Sturday night was ours ending in an Italian which if you were careful you could do a runner from

One simple little story Unc on the old time coppers, A mate and I came home from playing in a game one saturday and got caught up in a punch up with a load of Ted!s

Half way through a fair old ding dong arrives the boys in blue and we all end up in the black Maria

In the station house a sergent Izzard recognises me and my mate and pulls us into an interview room before giving the pair of us a shot to the head would have felled an Ox and sending us home via the back door

making a hasty retreat we thought that was the end of it, no Izzard visited the pub my old man used and told him he did not wish to see his son again in those circumstances

Boy was my old man up for it having been fronted in his pub by the local community copper

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My Sister is 14 years old, (will be 15 in August) and she's out with her burberry capped mates virtually every night smoking and drinking. The problem with them is that they hang around with those that are legal enough to buy fags and alcohol. Those that have the experience and the cars that give them the thrills as they cruise their way around Canvey's town centre.

 

The police definately need to be able to have some rights in punishing them so that it leaves a lasting impression on all of them. Perhaps naming and shaming the young ones and being able to fine the elder ones might work but some sort of strict discipline definately needs to be thought up.

 

I hate coming home from filming on a Saturday afternoon while the parents are out and find 9/10 Scummers sitting in my living room drinking/eating my family's food/drink.

 

This kind of thing gets personal to me cause my Sister is a piece of the scum we're on about here, and I've had money etc. stolen from me by these little bastards.

 

You think I can do anything about it? Yeah right!!!!! <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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Not only don't parents disciplne their kids but the schools don't or can't anymore. When I was at school they used to dish out the cane and believe me we were petrified. even the hard nuts knew when to stop. now, the teachers are at risk from the kids. Bring back the cane.

 

As for those who think we shouldn't slap our kids. [****!!****] off. If either of my kids deserves a smack they will get one and I don't care if it's in public either. I don't whack them, they get a controlled smack on their hand and if they've really played up then on their backside. If this is outlawed I would still carry on doing it.

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if my eldest bought 9 or 10 chavsters into my house with out my permission i'd knock his fking lights out.. and if i was pissed i'd administer some slipper as well.. funily enough he dosent, having said that he has respect for mine and his own belongings ..

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right an' all...as bad as you think I am...you wanna hear my 22 year old 16 airbourne commando...fck me...makes me feel like fckin ghandi..... <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

 

ha ha...no chavvies in my house ...straight out the fckin door and all his sisters boyfriends get checked out halfway up some fckin rock climbing course or other..... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

 

he watches over me like a hawk....even though I'm nearly 14 stone and 6ft fckin 2.... <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

 

reckons I need looking after in me old age.... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

 

seriously....he's learned respect and now demands it off others....when he descends on the house with a full manic commando team...they all sleep in the fckin stable berths and love it....

 

 

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But we have the off spring of the pond life to deal with ....


I just wanna know when & why it all started?
It hasn't just been the last 7 years...it's longer than that! Like Pabird says "offspring of pondlife".
My guess is it began in the early 1980s...but why have we a generation or two of complete and utter sh*ts who have complete disregard for anyone else or their property?
[****!!****] need their heads sorting with some timber!!
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Funny aint it..they harp on about the do's and dont's of corporal punishment..yet just reading here, myself included, brought up with the cane, the slipper, clip round the ear from the local gorilla in a police uniform..taught us all one thing...respect...something sadly missing today and in fact Mala..spot on...probably for the last 15 to 20 years.

And someone else hit it to..the day of the vigilante is looming...people will only take so much..put 20 burberry capped chav scum against 20 30 plusses with the hump...I know who my money's on

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I just wanna know when & why it all started ?


[color:"blue"] 1. When they scrapped National Service.
2. When they scrapped Borstals and Approved Schools.
3. When they scrapped Capital Punishment.
4. When they scrapped the birch.
5. When they scrapped flogging in prisons.

That's W-H-E-N ! As to W-H-Y ! That's annuver question !

[color:"red"] Nuff said, Mala, me ol' mate ?? [color:"black"]

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why is...too many lilley livered, [****!!****] kissing, pen pushing, whining , spineless, interfering, know nothing, overly educated , un-streetwise, never-been-there,self important, arrogant, ignorant, limp wristed, uphill gardening, shirt lifting, tree hugging, god bothering, socialist arseholes that have been running this once great country of ours...thats why (breathes out!)

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