Relaying the pitch at Arbour park

[Markskelton]

interesting the comment from spencer regarding relaying the pitch this summer..I imagine that isn’t cheap.

[GlenSTFC]

Yes heard the same and will cost a pretty six figure amount which will go some way to explain our not so large budget.

Edited March 7 by GlenSTFC

[Curtis]

How long has the pitch been down now? Nine years?
 

I thought they had a life of about 10 years, but it has looked a bit tired this season, especially when you compare it to Beaconsfield’s pitch which has only been down a few years.

[Reading Rebel]

Couple of interesting points.

Obviously Day revealing that we're relaying the pitch this summer and that in his opinion we only need 1 or 2 more points to be safe.

On the pitch, the figure of £150,000 has been mentioned which obviously is out of our range so to my mind it'll have to be through sponsorship or a loan or both. 

On the points needed I'm not sure how he reckons 45 points will be enough to be safe.

[MarkE]

The E.U are banning 4G pitches with rubber pellets in and they are going to be phased out here too. Bracknell have a different style of artificial pitch which i believe isn't up to National League regs but doesn't have the same toxic carcinogens in it. Research has proven that being exposed to those little black pellets can cause cancer. 

The pitches are also hard to dispose off as they can't be recycled at the end of their lifespan.

Hopefully Slough can get grant money from the Premier League or lottery to help fund such a costly renewal. The pitch is a big community asset and in use seven days a week so its not just the first team that benefit.

[GlenSTFC]

6 minutes ago, MarkE said:

The E.U are banning 4G pitches with rubber pellets in and they are going to be phased out here too. Bracknell have a different style of artificial pitch which i believe isn't up to National League regs but doesn't have the same toxic carcinogens in it. Research has proven that being exposed to those little black pellets can cause cancer. 

The pitches are also hard to dispose off as they can't be recycled at the end of their lifespan.

Hopefully Slough can get grant money from the Premier League or lottery to help fund such a costly renewal. The pitch is a big community asset and in use seven days a week so its not just the first team that benefit.

Not sure about this! How would these pitches ever gain approval if research showed this to be true? Plus why would millions play on them every day if they knew there was this risk to their health?

[MarkE]

I didn't make it up!

[Reading Rebel]

10 minutes ago, MarkE said:

I didn't make it up!

It would interesting to know who did the research and the details.

[MarkE]

20 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

Not sure about this! How would these pitches ever gain approval if research showed this to be true? Plus why would millions play on them every day if they knew there was this risk to their health?

It's based on a ban on micro plastics and their impact on the environment. In terms of research throughout history products have been put on the market and then discovered to be bad for our health. So the argument about how was it approved in the first place is a bit flawed!  Vapes, Teflon, Asbestos, tobacco, palm oil , alcohol and radio waves come to mind!

[GlenSTFC]

38 minutes ago, MarkE said:

I didn't make it up!

Maybe don’t trust everything you read.

[GlenSTFC]

27 minutes ago, MarkE said:

It's based on a ban on micro plastics and their impact on the environment. In terms of research throughout history products have been put on the market and then discovered to be bad for our health. So the argument about how was it approved in the first place is a bit flawed!  Vapes, Teflon, Asbestos, tobacco, palm oil , alcohol and radio waves come to mind!

I’m pretty sure if solid research confirmed what you say is true, do you not think these pitches would be outlawed? More importantly why would you even think about playing on it if you knew there was a risk? Doesn’t make much sense does it?

[MarkE]

3 hours ago, GlenSTFC said:

I’m pretty sure if solid research confirmed what you say is true, do you not think these pitches would be outlawed? More importantly why would you even think about playing on it if you knew there was a risk? Doesn’t make much sense does it?

 

I think you are reacting to my post as if I am setting the agenda here!. I am just explaining what the E U are planning and what i read. 

[GlenSTFC]

59 minutes ago, MarkE said:

 

I think you are reacting to my post as if I am setting the agenda here!. I am just explaining what the E U are planning and what i read. 

No I’m giving my opinion, I never stated you should change the rules did I! So do you believe what you’ve read?

[MarkE]

14 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

No I’m giving my opinion, I never stated you should change the rules did I! So do you believe what you’ve read?

 

14 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

No I’m giving my opinion, I never stated you should change the rules did I! So do you believe what you’ve read

The transition will be gradual and the ban will come into force in 2031 so the pitches can still be played on but it wouldn't make sense to replace a current one with the 3g ones that will be banned. It's not a question of whether i believe in it or not as its E U legislation which I understand will also happen. Pitch manufacturers are working on alternatives now.

[Richierebel1]

I think what Glenn was trying to get across was if there’s even a slightest risk it causes cancer surely they will ban the pitches immediately rather than just say oh it’s fine you can play on them until 2031. 

[Irishadrian]

Washington University did a survey a few years back available online they looked at 158 players or ex players with various diagnosed cancers and remarkably found that 95 were goalkeepers! The ones who get down and dirty  

[Irishadrian]

Problem is things don't get banned because they can kill you Smoking kills no dispute about that but. countless millions continue to risk their lives and sadly the lives of non addicts through passive smoking!

[Nathan]

8 hours ago, GlenSTFC said:

Not sure about this! How would these pitches ever gain approval if research showed this to be true? Plus why would millions play on them every day if they knew there was this risk to their health?

Lead (used in make-up, paint and pencils), mercury (as a medicine), arsenic (in wallpaper), asbestos insulation and thalidomide were all approved by the science of the time.

[GlenSTFC]

2 minutes ago, Nathan said:

Lead (used in make-up, paint and pencils), mercury (as a medicine), arsenic (in wallpaper), asbestos insulation and thalidomide were all approved by the science of the time.

But have these now all been eradicated or are they still in use and danger to life? 

[Irishadrian]

9 minutes ago, Nathan said:

Lead (used in make-up, paint and pencils), mercury (as a medicine), arsenic (in wallpaper), asbestos insulation and thalidomide were all approved by the science of the time.

Most people don't know that thalidomide is still an NHS prescription medicine with a cautionary note.