Weymouth 1-1 Enfield Town

[ETFC2001]

1 hour ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

I think that Benjamin is better than Tanner or Mackenzie. Leonard is probably better going forward than Adjei-Hersey. And then, of course, we have the elephant in the room with Wyllie playing as a lone front man in the play-off final.

(With Marcus currently out for at least another 6 weeks, I wonder what prospect of Gillingham releasing him at the end of the season...?)

Benjamins a good player, yes. Maybe Billy Leonard too but he hasn’t impressed me as much as I was made to believe we just signed the best thing since sliced bread.

I compare Wyllies move to the move Faal did going to Bolton after that season where he dominated every team until we became very one dimensional. Granted, Faal and Wyllie are different players but these football league moves look good until you have to take that step up overnight. Some players do it, some players don’t.

Faal is an amazing player and I loved watching him play week in week out but I personally think this is his level and step 5 (NL). He will be an amazing goal scorer for many years as he has the intangibles you can’t teach for this level, but I can’t see him going back into the football league. I think Wyllie is on the same path.

I really hope Wyllie does well of course I’m not wishing anything bad, but I don’t really know how you can take the step up from Step 7 (Isthmian Prem) to Step 4 (League Two) overnight.. I think he will go on loan somewhere to a NL side because I don’t think he is Gillinghams plans, and he might score a load of goals I don’t know, but I hope he does as he was a top player but a top man for us last season. I hope they both succeed and go on to have great careers but this is just my opinion.

Edited yesterday at 00:40 by ETFC2001

[Barney]

I'll write more when I'm less tired (although I'm sure you're all bored of my long posts), but that was fundamentally a game that we should have won - but we really cannot create and take chances. We had enough of the play and possession in their half to have put the game out of sight, but going deep into the second half at 0-0, then trying to hold on to a 1-0 lead is just asking for trouble, and sure enough we slipped up again.

For me, our pen seemed soft, theirs was totally avoidable if Rhys' call is listened to, and he gathers the ball, or if we put it into row Z instead of trying to take a touch. Both sendings off were also soft in my eyes, yes Benjamin pushed out, but was it violent conduct? Two uninspiring sides, of which I thought we were the better, but unless you can convert possession and territory into goals, you're not going to win games.

I really do think it's all about the rebuild for next season now, unless something miraculous happens - sad really, as I'm going to miss these types of away days.

[Towningaround]

See I disagree.

I think this team is good enough….well it has enough individuals that are good enough.

However the management of those individuals has made sure that the sum of its parts are less than it should be when the skill of a manager or a coach is to make it more than it should be. 

The GK is more than good enough. Certainly haven’t seen many that are much better. 

Adam Thompson would get in most if not every single team in the division. 

Xavier Benjamin is more than good enough. 

Lennon Peake is a top 6 side player. Billy Leonard is also more than capable. 

Chukwu has scored goals at this level and Hutchinson has scored plenty at this level and some at the level above.

Kaunda although raw has looked a half decent player.

In fact I haven’t seen many teams that have had out and out forwards who have done much of anything more than ours have. Can’t name one outstanding no 9 performance from an opposing team at all in fact.

Sam Youngs is a player who wouldn’t be allowed to get away with what he does out of possession at most clubs but would also be a welcome addition at most clubs and has probably outscored every attacking midfielder in the league. 

Parcell is ok and I’ve seen plenty who do less than he does in a variety of positions. 

We may be weak when it comes to replacements and cover - so why does the manager insist on making the same f~ing substitutions each week - but we’ve also had loans like Tuck Cox and Scott who were capable and Smith is suitable cover for a Parcell type. 

No im sorry this mess falls on how those players have been deployed and how the management have failed to get the best from them and in many cases found a way to actually destroy confidence when it was looking like they’d turned a corner (Hutchinson in particular).

It’s been amateur hour on and off the pitch for to long and it’s way too late to make a difference now. 

We’ve had a manager bemoan “bad luck” and “players haven’t listened to the instructions” and “haven’t taken on board the instructions we gave them” and whose general downbeat demeanour each week has failed to lift the players to the level required, its failed to manage situations where we have had the upper hand and could’ve taken more points and its failed to find a system that gets the best out of the players we have.

God knows what happens Tuesday and Thursday evenings because there’s little evidence of actual improvement other than a gradual change in personal that’s assisted marginal gains.  

[ETFC2001]

I agree with a lot of your points Towningaround and Barney.

The same mistakes every week can not be happening. The same capitulation, the same nervous mentality every time we lead in a game.. this has to get talked about in briefings before games. And if it isn’t, why? 

I think we have individual quality, no doubt. Peake and Thompson arguably could play at NL level. Benjamin and others are definitely comfortable step 2 players. But something is not gelling as a team. Like Barney said, you could hear Rhys from the other side of the stadium so why are we making stupid mistakes in the box and giving away silly penalties? Whether that’s on management or the players is a hard one.

I think Gavin should leave on ‘mutual consent’ at the end of the season. Seasons like these can affect you for a longer period, and I don’t want a ripple effect falling down and down like a Cheshunt or Concord. As much as I love Gavin for giving us that win last year (some would say Wyllie, I think Gavin tactically was amazing last season).

 

[55 seasons]

The Isthmian prem will be a tough place for this team. Hendon, who beat us 0-3 pre season, and Dulwich are struggling to stay in it. Not quite giving up but another last minute concession yesterday suggests the writing is on the wall. We are very close to the time to focus on next seasons rebuild IMO.

[Barney]

Very much an on the fence comment as usual, but I don't think our struggles this season boil down to any one issue, it's a combination of all of the following in no particular order (and I'm sure everyone will have an opinion on which of these carry the most weight):

1. We were blind-sided by promotion, I think we recruited Gavin with the medium term in mind, and we expected better football than under Leese (tick), whilst being competitive at step 3 (tick) and having a management team who were a bit less passive and more fan friendly than previous team (also tick). Getting Gavin and team in was a project, maybe for 3 or 4 seasons, as we built, strengthened, and hopefully moved closer to step 2. Whilst the playoffs were a realistic target, winning promotion was beyond people's expectations (fans, board, management), and we just weren't prepared for it as a club, it does feel like there was a collective of "oh sh*t, what now?" once the dust had settled.

2. The management team have clearly made mistakes throughout all this, I was of the opinion that in a much tougher league, we would be better off continuing last season's fundamentals of keep things tight and defensively compact first, frustrate the oppo and build on that foundation, but it's not really played out like that. At times we have had no outlet, have been backs to the wall inviting pressure, and defeat has really felt like it was inevitable. There have only been a few occasions where this has worked well (I'm thinking Tonbridge, Weston, Dorking), but as I've said many times, this is a really tough league, we're now at the sharp end of non-league football, and we're closer to the pro game than we are to our ESL/Isthmian North beginnings. There are games at this level that we're just not going to win, no matter what we do, as we're playing full time pros who are well drilled, fitter and better from 1-11, but there are games where we could and should have won, where we aren't a worse side, but still failed to do so.

3. Recruitment has been a real issue, and both the management and the board have pretty much said as much. At step 3, it seems like getting a player was very much a case of speaking with said player, agreeing terms, putting in an approach and that player is running out in your colours on Saturday. From what people have said, step 2 involves agents, contracts and a whole host of other factors that just aren't at play in the division below. We've admitted that we should have appointed a head of recruitment to help navigate all of this, however I suspect a person with that skillset isn't easy to find/attract. Coming into the start of the season in the position that we were in couldn't have been much worse in terms of preparation, and I think at the end of the season it'll be the results in the first half of the season that sent us down, rather than what we did in the second half.

4. Players - I think there was a naivety that the players that got us promoted would form the basis of the team that would keep us up this season, and the buck for that largely stops with the management. Last season, we were a good (not great) step 3 side, with a very good forward. The whole team contributed to our success, and I don't subscribe to the "we'd have been nothing without Marcus" viewpoint, but if you compare us to Hornchurch, who finished 20 odd points above us, they'd put together a side (with clearly more budget than us) with a view to being competitive at step 2, whereas we had a side that were competitive at step 3, and very quickly a lot of those players were found out at step 2. The side we have now, compared to the side at the start of the season is night and day, and I actually think we have a reasonable side now, which, had we had a pre-season with, and hit the ground running, we'd be a lot closer to Welling in 20th than we are now. How much we could have done about this is questionable, clearly we had to learn and react quickly, but without any direct experience of management at step 2, it's maybe difficult to know who can step up and who can't. Of the squad last season, Youngs looks up to it, but took a long time to adjust and start scoring goals, Parcell has been fairly solid all season, and Rhys is a step 2 player that could even play higher. There are a couple of others who I think are good enough as fringe players (Dylan and Payne of those that are still with us spring to mind), but they're not really starters at step 2.

5. Game management - this is where the players are at fault, and possibly the management. The much talked about dark arts of slowing things down, feigning injury, berating the ref to get marginal decisions, an unnoticed shirt pull to gain an advantage at a set piece, knowing when to just get rid of the ball, put it in the corner, go direct, adjust the formation on the pitch. I don't see many leaders in the starting 11, Thompson I would say is one, but we're missing players who can manage games, and the players we started the season with (and many of those we brought in), whilst good enough, maybe aren't savvy enough compared to other sides in the league. With better decision making throughout the season, we could easily have managed our way through some of the winning positions we've thrown away late on, and could be in a much more healthy league position (Weymouth yesterday being the latest in a long line of examples of this).

I'm sure there are other things that I've not mentioned at play here, but I honestly think it's a combination of the above. The key is what we do with the knowledge gained this season, and how we move forwards - will we do a Concord and potentially go down another step, or will we quickly rebuild, recover and be competitive at step 3 in the short/medium term with a view to being back at step 2 again when we're ready? This is the biggest challenge facing the club at the moment, and we really need at some point soon, to pivot to making decisions around what's best for next season, rather than how many points we can gain this season. I really hope I'm wrong, but I have us relegated now - even if we go on a run, I can't see how we're going to extract ourselves from this predicament, as we've given other sides too much of a head start.

Sad times, but life goes on, the club will still be here, and we will eventually come back stronger from this - all I ask is please don't get too disheartened, and don't give up supporting the team and the club, we need to pull together and continue our support in good times and bad.

Edited 18 hours ago by Barney

[djwilf]

37 minutes ago, Barney said:

Very much an on the fence comment as usual, but I don't think our struggles this season boil down to any one issue, it's a combination of all of the following in no particular order (and I'm sure everyone will have an opinion on which of these carry the most weight):

1. We were blind-sided by promotion, I think we recruited Gavin with the medium term in mind, and we expected better football than under Leese (tick), whilst being competitive at step 3 (tick) and having a management team who were a bit less passive and more fan friendly than previous team (also tick). Getting Gavin and team in was a project, maybe for 3 or 4 seasons, as we built, strengthened, and hopefully moved closer to step 2. Whilst the playoffs were a realistic target, winning promotion was beyond people's expectations (fans, board, management), and we just weren't prepared for it as a club, it does feel like there was a collective of "oh sh*t, what now?" once the dust had settled.

2. The management team have clearly made mistakes throughout all this, I was of the opinion that in a much tougher league, we would be better off continuing last season's fundamentals of keep things tight and defensively compact first, frustrate the oppo and build on that foundation, but it's not really played out like that. At times we have had no outlet, have been backs to the wall inviting pressure, and defeat has really felt like it was inevitable. There have only been a few occasions where this has worked well (I'm thinking Tonbridge, Weston, Dorking), but as I've said many times, this is a really tough league, we're now at the sharp end of non-league football, and we're closer to the pro game than we are to our ESL/Isthmian North beginnings. There are games at this level that we're just not going to win, no matter what we do, as we're playing full time pros who are well drilled, fitter and better from 1-11, but there are games where we could and should have won, where we aren't a worse side, but still failed to do so.

3. Recruitment has been a real issue, and both the management and the board have pretty much said as much. At step 3, it seems like getting a player was very much a case of speaking with said player, agreeing terms, putting in an approach and that player is running out in your colours on Saturday. From what people have said, step 2 involves agents, contracts and a whole host of other factors that just aren't at play in the division below. We've admitted that we should have appointed a head of recruitment to help navigate all of this, however I suspect a person with that skillset isn't easy to find/attract. Coming into the start of the season in the position that we were in couldn't have been much worse in terms of preparation, and I think at the end of the season it'll be the results in the first half of the season that sent us down, rather than what we did in the second half.

4. Players - I think there was a naivety that the players that got us promoted would form the basis of the team that would keep us up this season, and the buck for that largely stops with the management. Last season, we were a good (not great) step 3 side, with a very good forward. The whole team contributed to our success, and I don't subscribe to the "we'd have been nothing without Marcus" viewpoint, but if you compare us to Hornchurch, who finished 20 odd points above us, they'd put together a side (with clearly more budget than us) with a view to being competitive at step 2, whereas we had a side that were competitive at step 3, and very quickly a lot of those players were found out at step 2. The side we have now, compared to the side at the start of the season is night and day, and I actually think we have a reasonable side now, which, had we had a pre-season with, and hit the ground running, we'd be a lot closer to Welling in 20th than we are now. How much we could have done about this is questionable, clearly we had to learn and react quickly, but without any direct experience of management at step 2, it's maybe difficult to know who can step up and who can't. Of the squad last season, Youngs looks up to it, but took a long time to adjust and start scoring goals, Parcell has been fairly solid all season, and Rhys is a step 2 player that could even play higher. There are a couple of others who I think are good enough as fringe players (Dylan and Payne of those that are still with us spring to mind), but they're not really starters at step 2.

5. Game management - this is where the players are at fault, and possibly the management. The much talked about dark arts of slowing things down, feigning injury, berating the ref to get marginal decisions, an unnoticed shirt pull to gain an advantage at a set piece, knowing when to just get rid of the ball, put it in the corner, go direct, adjust the formation on the pitch. I don't see many leaders in the starting 11, Thompson I would say is one, but we're missing players who can manage games, and the players we started the season with (and many of those we brought in), whilst good enough, maybe aren't savvy enough compared to other sides in the league. With better decision making throughout the season, we could easily have managed our way through some of the winning positions we've thrown away late on, and could be in a much more healthy league position (Weymouth yesterday being the latest in a long line of examples of this).

I'm sure there are other things that I've not mentioned at play here, but I honestly think it's a combination of the above. The key is what we do with the knowledge gained this season, and how we move forwards - will we do a Concord and potentially go down another step, or will we quickly rebuild, recover and be competitive at step 3 in the short/medium term with a view to being back at step 2 again when we're ready? This is the biggest challenge facing the club at the moment, and we really need at some point soon, to pivot to making decisions around what's best for next season, rather than how many points we can gain this season. I really hope I'm wrong, but I have us relegated now - even if we go on a run, I can't see how we're going to extract ourselves from this predicament, as we've given other sides too much of a head start.

Sad times, but life goes on, the club will still be here, and we will eventually come back stronger from this - all I ask is please don't get too disheartened, and don't give up supporting the team and the club, we need to pull together and continue our support in good times and bad.

Great post.    

[The Crowing Cockerel]

It is disheartening and dispiriting, but that is football. If it were all trophies and promotions then I'm not sure we'd really appreciate each of those. The play-off final victory was so sweet precisely because we'd fallen short against Dulwich and Hornchurch. This will be our first ever relegation - in 24 years of existence. That's actually pretty good going. Its how we react that is crucial. Ch****t hung on to their manager and have spent a couple of seasons dredging the basement of Step 3. Dulwich find themselves in a similar predicament. At the other end, you have Dover and Dartford who are looking to bounce straight back. Their squads would suggest they have invested fairly heavily in order to do so. The Isthmian looks pretty strong - hence why I fear for Gavin next season. Its been a tough season, but ETFC is here to stay.....and with a new stand!

[Benjrider10]

Highlights (lowlights) are on the Weymouth forum:

 

A poor game between two poor teams. We did enough to win, should have held on but didn’t. Again.

We are OK at the back and in the middle but whatever combination we try up front just doesn’t seem to work. The crosses keep going in but for whatever reason, whoever is up front just can’t get on the end of them. There’s no value in pointing fingers.

Not much to add to other posts already here but I do want to put it out there how unlucky Bailey Brown was. He had had a very good game until the last minute of injury time but made one mistake (not leaving the cross that Rhys had called for) and once again the footballing gods punished us. Not convinced it was a penalty anyway but s**t happens when you’re in a dogfight at the bottom of the league.  Keep your head up Bailey 👍

The players and management team will be absolutely distraught and really need our support now. Tuesday vs. Eastbourne will be a huge test of character. We are as good as down but need to play with some pride. 

[The Crowing Cockerel]

1 hour ago, Benjrider10 said:

Highlights (lowlights) are on the Weymouth forum:

 

Not much to add to other posts already here but I do want to put it out there how unlucky Bailey Brown was. He had had a very good game until the last minute of injury time but made one mistake (not leaving the cross that Rhys had called for) and once again the footballing gods punished us. Not convinced it was a penalty anyway but s**t happens when you’re in a dogfight at the bottom of the league.  Keep your head up Bailey 👍

Massive sympathy for Bayley. IMO he had to deal with the cross - there is no way he could've left it in that position. He should've put it into row Z. But having taken a heavy touch, that was about as soft a penalty as I've seen given.

I was saying only the other day how I didn't think we'd had a red card all season - perhaps because we haven't been able to get close enough to opposition players?! Xavier certainly made up for that yesterday - the very definition of losing your head. A 3-match ban that really won't help us. 

[Barney]

4 minutes ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

Massive sympathy for Bayley. IMO he had to deal with the cross - there is no way he could've left it in that position. He should've put it into row Z. But having taken a heavy touch, that was about as soft a penalty as I've seen given.

I was saying only the other day how I didn't think we'd had a red card all season - perhaps because we haven't been able to get close enough to opposition players?! Xavier certainly made up for that yesterday - the very definition of losing your head. A 3-match ban that really won't help us. 

I think Mills was sent off, but can't think of any others.

As other people have said, Bayley put in a good shift all game, and was clearly distraught at his part in their penalty (which probably was soft, but we can't have many complaints) - in some respects, it's positive in that it shows he cares. The result doesn't hinge on this incident though, we had more than enough of the game to have been more than a single goal up going into the final few minutes.

I'm still not sure Benjamin's is a red, it was a push, rather than genuinely violent conduct, but I'm not 100% on the rules these days - their red was equally soft though.

[The Crowing Cockerel]

1 hour ago, Barney said:

I think Mills was sent off, but can't think of any others.

I'd forgotten about Mills - that was a 2nd yellow, I think.

"VIOLENT CONDUCT

Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made."

Sending-off offences include (but are not limited to):
physical or aggressive behaviour (including spitting or biting) towards an opposing player, substitute, team official, match official, spectator or any
other person (e.g. ball boy/girl, security or competition official etc.)"

I'd suggest Xavier has used excessive force against an opponent (in pushing him in the chest) when not challenging for the ball. Although I'd usually expect a yellow for a push, not sure we can realistically challenge the red unless there's any further guidance I'm unaware of.

[No bull Towner]

7 hours ago, Barney said:

Very much an on the fence comment as usual, but I don't think our struggles this season boil down to any one issue, it's a combination of all of the following in no particular order (and I'm sure everyone will have an opinion on which of these carry the most weight):

1. We were blind-sided by promotion, I think we recruited Gavin with the medium term in mind, and we expected better football than under Leese (tick), whilst being competitive at step 3 (tick) and having a management team who were a bit less passive and more fan friendly than previous team (also tick). Getting Gavin and team in was a project, maybe for 3 or 4 seasons, as we built, strengthened, and hopefully moved closer to step 2. Whilst the playoffs were a realistic target, winning promotion was beyond people's expectations (fans, board, management), and we just weren't prepared for it as a club, it does feel like there was a collective of "oh sh*t, what now?" once the dust had settled.

2. The management team have clearly made mistakes throughout all this, I was of the opinion that in a much tougher league, we would be better off continuing last season's fundamentals of keep things tight and defensively compact first, frustrate the oppo and build on that foundation, but it's not really played out like that. At times we have had no outlet, have been backs to the wall inviting pressure, and defeat has really felt like it was inevitable. There have only been a few occasions where this has worked well (I'm thinking Tonbridge, Weston, Dorking), but as I've said many times, this is a really tough league, we're now at the sharp end of non-league football, and we're closer to the pro game than we are to our ESL/Isthmian North beginnings. There are games at this level that we're just not going to win, no matter what we do, as we're playing full time pros who are well drilled, fitter and better from 1-11, but there are games where we could and should have won, where we aren't a worse side, but still failed to do so.

3. Recruitment has been a real issue, and both the management and the board have pretty much said as much. At step 3, it seems like getting a player was very much a case of speaking with said player, agreeing terms, putting in an approach and that player is running out in your colours on Saturday. From what people have said, step 2 involves agents, contracts and a whole host of other factors that just aren't at play in the division below. We've admitted that we should have appointed a head of recruitment to help navigate all of this, however I suspect a person with that skillset isn't easy to find/attract. Coming into the start of the season in the position that we were in couldn't have been much worse in terms of preparation, and I think at the end of the season it'll be the results in the first half of the season that sent us down, rather than what we did in the second half.

4. Players - I think there was a naivety that the players that got us promoted would form the basis of the team that would keep us up this season, and the buck for that largely stops with the management. Last season, we were a good (not great) step 3 side, with a very good forward. The whole team contributed to our success, and I don't subscribe to the "we'd have been nothing without Marcus" viewpoint, but if you compare us to Hornchurch, who finished 20 odd points above us, they'd put together a side (with clearly more budget than us) with a view to being competitive at step 2, whereas we had a side that were competitive at step 3, and very quickly a lot of those players were found out at step 2. The side we have now, compared to the side at the start of the season is night and day, and I actually think we have a reasonable side now, which, had we had a pre-season with, and hit the ground running, we'd be a lot closer to Welling in 20th than we are now. How much we could have done about this is questionable, clearly we had to learn and react quickly, but without any direct experience of management at step 2, it's maybe difficult to know who can step up and who can't. Of the squad last season, Youngs looks up to it, but took a long time to adjust and start scoring goals, Parcell has been fairly solid all season, and Rhys is a step 2 player that could even play higher. There are a couple of others who I think are good enough as fringe players (Dylan and Payne of those that are still with us spring to mind), but they're not really starters at step 2.

5. Game management - this is where the players are at fault, and possibly the management. The much talked about dark arts of slowing things down, feigning injury, berating the ref to get marginal decisions, an unnoticed shirt pull to gain an advantage at a set piece, knowing when to just get rid of the ball, put it in the corner, go direct, adjust the formation on the pitch. I don't see many leaders in the starting 11, Thompson I would say is one, but we're missing players who can manage games, and the players we started the season with (and many of those we brought in), whilst good enough, maybe aren't savvy enough compared to other sides in the league. With better decision making throughout the season, we could easily have managed our way through some of the winning positions we've thrown away late on, and could be in a much more healthy league position (Weymouth yesterday being the latest in a long line of examples of this).

I'm sure there are other things that I've not mentioned at play here, but I honestly think it's a combination of the above. The key is what we do with the knowledge gained this season, and how we move forwards - will we do a Concord and potentially go down another step, or will we quickly rebuild, recover and be competitive at step 3 in the short/medium term with a view to being back at step 2 again when we're ready? This is the biggest challenge facing the club at the moment, and we really need at some point soon, to pivot to making decisions around what's best for next season, rather than how many points we can gain this season. I really hope I'm wrong, but I have us relegated now - even if we go on a run, I can't see how we're going to extract ourselves from this predicament, as we've given other sides too much of a head start.

Sad times, but life goes on, the club will still be here, and we will eventually come back stronger from this - all I ask is please don't get too disheartened, and don't give up supporting the team and the club, we need to pull together and continue our support in good times and bad.

Agree with you 100%. The side is definitely better now than it was and a side that could get a bounce back if held on to. That is what the club should be looking at now and getting the majority of these players on contracts to see them staying next season. No idea how many already are but I'm guessing not many and if the club don't try to tie the likes of Rhys, Peake, Thompson, Leonard, Mickey, Benjamin, etc to the club then a bounce back is very unlikely. It might not be a popular belief but I also think the management should stay. Gav and his team are well experienced in Isth Prem and promoted us first season so I would have faith that these players and management could bounce back. It has been a steep learning curve for them but now they know what they would be facing and would recruit and prepare better for it. I'd have more faith in them doing it than a total rebuild which is what we would be facing if management went and most of the players.

[The Crowing Cockerel]

Are we definitely going into the Isthmian? Take a look at where our friends Bishops Stortford ended up.

[andyetfc]

7 minutes ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

Are we definitely going into the Isthmian? Take a look at where our friends Bishops Stortford ended up.

Was that not after they were promoted to the NLN?

[No bull Towner]

1 hour ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

Are we definitely going into the Isthmian? Take a look at where our friends Bishops Stortford ended up.

Well nothing is guaranteed, I mean we could even stay up 🙏