Some questions

[ETFC2001]

I posted this on a thread but I didn’t want it to get lost in it because I’m interested in people’s thoughts about it.

As I’m just a regular going fan every week, trying to make the atmosphere louder to get behind the team and I’m not in member meetings or whatever happens closely with some of the fans and the board, and I’m guessing some of us on here are closer to what’s going on behind the scenes, I don’t think I can truly understand what the board is going through at this current moment in time with revenue, to keep it more sustainable. Does anyone know what’s been suggested to people higher to make it a little bit easier on Gavin with budget issues? 

And I hate to keep going on about Wyllie - he’s gone and on to better things but was the sale of him needed to progress as a club or was it due to the fact we felt like we was holding him back to go and play in the football league? Yes, he played a massive part in us going up of course, but whether we like it or not he has played a massive part in us going straight back down, and I feel like the least he owed to us for really putting him on the map was just another season or even half a season in the NLS, to keep us stable in this level. Maybe I am looking at this selfishly but I’d like to get other people’s views on that also.

[The Crowing Cockerel]

Sorry, but there cannot be any criticism of Marcus for the manner and timing of his departure. He left to play full-time in the football league. He owed ETFC absolutely nothing. In fact, you could say that by signing a contract he had more than repaid the opportunities the club gave him. It was a mutually-beneficial relationship. By way of comparison perhaps I can tell you about what happened to Needham Market striker, Sam Newson, in 2011. This was the season ETFC won promotion against Needham Market via the play-offs. Newson had been absolutely prolific that season with scouts coming from far and wide to watch him. He was invited, during the season, for a 4-day trial with Gillingham. This was Newson's big break. Unfortunately he injured his knee the week before he was due to go on trial (https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/21768538.sam-newsons-trial-gillingham-wrecked-injury/), missed the opportunity and the prospect of a career as a full-time footballer died a death. So, my point is: Marcus could not turn his opportunity down. Equally, the Club couldn't force him to stay. So, no - he did not owe us another season in the NLS.

Edited November 2 by The Crowing Cockerel

[ETFC2001]

1 hour ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

Sorry, but there cannot be any criticism of Marcus for the manner and timing of his departure. He left to play full-time in the football league. He owed ETFC absolutely nothing. In fact, you could say that by signing a contract he had more than repaid the opportunities the club gave him. It was a mutually-beneficial relationship. By way of comparison perhaps I can tell you about what happened to Needham Market striker, Sam Newson, in 2011. This was the season ETFC won promotion against Needham Market via the play-offs. Newson had been absolutely prolific that season with scouts coming from far and wide to watch him. He was invited, during the season, for a 4-day trial with Gillingham. This was Newson's big break. Unfortunately he injured his knee the week before he was due to go on trial (https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/21768538.sam-newsons-trial-gillingham-wrecked-injury/), missed the opportunity and the prospect of a career as a full-time footballer died a death. So, my point is: Marcus could not turn his opportunity down. Equally, the Club couldn't force him to stay. So, no - he did not owe us another season in the NLS.

That’s fair, and I didn’t actually know about that story with that Needham striker.

I agree with your point, that if you don’t take the opportunities given to you then anything could happen and god forbid that happens to Marcus as he moves on. I guess I was looking at it selfishly thinking that he could have saved our season in Enfield then moving up to the football league and I hope he does very well at Gillingham. 

[andyetfc]

16 hours ago, ETFC2001 said:

 

I posted this on a thread but I didn’t want it to get lost in it because I’m interested in people’s thoughts about it.

As I’m just a regular going fan every week, trying to make the atmosphere louder to get behind the team and I’m not in member meetings or whatever happens closely with some of the fans and the board, and I’m guessing some of us on here are closer to what’s going on behind the scenes, I don’t think I can truly understand what the board is going through at this current moment in time with revenue, to keep it more sustainable. Does anyone know what’s been suggested to people higher to make it a little bit easier on Gavin with budget issues? 

And I hate to keep going on about Wyllie - he’s gone and on to better things but was the sale of him needed to progress as a club or was it due to the fact we felt like we was holding him back to go and play in the football league? Yes, he played a massive part in us going up of course, but whether we like it or not he has played a massive part in us going straight back down, and I feel like the least he owed to us for really putting him on the map was just another season or even half a season in the NLS, to keep us stable in this level. Maybe I am looking at this selfishly but I’d like to get other people’s views on that also.

Sorry to say, but some of the comments leave me speechless.

[lovely stuff]

21 hours ago, The Crowing Cockerel said:

Sorry, but there cannot be any criticism of Marcus for the manner and timing of his departure. He left to play full-time in the football league. He owed ETFC absolutely nothing. In fact, you could say that by signing a contract he had more than repaid the opportunities the club gave him.

So Wylie owned the club nothing but the club owed him something by letting him leave halfway into a two year contract before the most important season in the clubs history?? The club pulled the stops out and took a risk in  offering Wylie a contact at the beginning of last season (at the time he was a part-time winger that had just converted to playing as a forward with not many goals to his name). In return for the faith shown in him, the contact would be automatically extended for another year if he managed over 20 goals in the first season. Which he did. 

I believe it was a very generous gesture by the club to allow him to follow his dreams. It wasn't the best thing to do for the club at all, so in my view the player does owe us some gratitude. And i'm sure he does because he is a top bloke.

[andyetfc]

Footballers come and footballers go. It will never change. Now loyal supporters,they tend to stick through thick and thin.

[No bull Towner]

It's a tough one re Marcus because no we shouldn't hold players back from full time offers but likewise it wasn't the best move letting him go. However, if we had kept him denying him the opportunity would he have given us his all or would he have been despondent and lack lustre? We will never know. If he had stayed and proved himself successful in NLS he may well have had even more fruitful offers later in the season, but if his goals had dried up as ours have now then he may not have received any offers. He's gone though and I wish him well. Perhaps Gillingham could loan him back for a few months as a gesture of appreciation! As far as other revenue streams go and club finances I don't have a clue what's on the cards, if anything, but agree we need some more money from somewhere.