v Worthing

[Irishadrian]

3 hours ago, Irishadrian said:

It's worth taking a look at the Worthing site and listening to their managers post match comments He knows it wasnt an easy victory with praise for Scott and the rebels workrate !

Scottys Post match interview is now on the official club site.

[GlenSTFC]

I’m hoping Scott has been enquiring about Temi’s availability considering Maidenhead aren’t using him currently. If he’s out of reach then I hope players of his quality are being looked into.

[Reading Rebel]

1 hour ago, Norbert22 said:

The forum mafia is alive and well.

Norbert, I'm not telling people what to say or forcing them to change their minds.

Forums are all about people agreeing or disagreeing with different opinions.

 

 

[3spirit]

3 hours ago, Nathan said:

I am very surprised that some people are spinning a game in which the opposition scored 4, we did little to threaten their keeper throughout (particularly in the 2nd half when we were supposed to be chasing the game) and when the going got tough, discipline went out the window, as anything other than a very poor display.

As for some "good passing football", this means little if you don't threaten as the end of it. And surely you weren't referring to our defence were you 🤣

You remind me of Fraser in Dad's Army with his catchphrase ' We're doomed' !

Look Nathan, Scott is not a mindreader he knows the team has issues to sort out but this is part and parcel of a new season with a new squad. I can't see why you are so down on Slough from last night's performance. In my opinion Worthing are one of the better teams in this division and will be challenging for title among others. Slough are nowhere near that level of team currently but Slough did go toe to toe with them for best part of the game. How you didn't see that on the night, I don't know? After all you've been watching Slough for a good while now.  Was it really that bad compared to other seasons?

I'm not expecting Slough to be competing for the title but for our budget I don't believe our squad recruitment is all bad and I can see plenty of positives at the moment. Slough haven't had much luck in the opening 3 games so far but to me we're not far off from getting it right. I saw plenty of good things from the Slough team last night,as did Scott. I can only think you are an 'half empty glass' guy at the moment, whereas I'm viewing Slough as the glass being half full with topping up being required ! That's why I have faith that Scott,Yella and Chris can turn this start around. It might be as simple as recruiting another centre half.  

Edited August 16, 2023 by 3spirit

[3spirit]

By the way my last sentence about a new centre half doesn't mean losing Joe Dandy from our squad. I believe he can still do a job for Slough. Just a slight alteration in what we use him for.

Edited August 16, 2023 by 3spirit

[Nathan]

2 hours ago, 3spirit said:

I can't see why you are so down on Slough from last night's performance. In my opinion Worthing are one of the better teams in this division and will be challenging for title among others. Slough are nowhere near that level of team currently but Slough did go toe to toe with them for best part of the game. How you didn't see that on the night, I don't know? After all you've been watching Slough for a good while now.  Was it really that bad compared to other seasons?

It's hard to gauge how good a side Worthing are as, although better than Dover (who we also were beaten by) I don't think they got out of second-gear for much of last night. It turns out they didn't need to. Maybe our conflicting perceptions are down to the video-streaming!

As for going toe-to-toe with them, you mean apart from all the goals, our bookings & sending off and huffing & puffing to absolutely no affect, right?

We all want what's best for the club so I don't see what there is to gain from continuing this argument, but suffice to say it's clear to me that we are far from where we ought to be. I hope we don't waste too much time in putting it right. Saturday would be a good start 😀

[3spirit]

4 hours ago, Nathan said:

It's hard to gauge how good a side Worthing are as, although better than Dover (who we also were beaten by) I don't think they got out of second-gear for much of last night. It turns out they didn't need to. Maybe our conflicting perceptions are down to the video-streaming!

As for going toe-to-toe with them, you mean apart from all the goals, our bookings & sending off and huffing & puffing to absolutely no affect, right?

We all want what's best for the club so I don't see what there is to gain from continuing this argument, but suffice to say it's clear to me that we are far from where we ought to be. I hope we don't waste too much time in putting it right. Saturday would be a good start 😀

I was at the match. I won't be streaming Slough matches. I prefer to watch matches live.

We will have to agree to disagree on the Worthing game,Nathan. One thing we both can agree on is that we want Slough to start gaining points asap to climb the National South table.

[Reading Rebel]

4 hours ago, Nathan said:

It's hard to gauge how good a side Worthing are as, although better than Dover (who we also were beaten by) I don't think they got out of second-gear for much of last night. It turns out they didn't need to. Maybe our conflicting perceptions are down to the video-streaming!

As for going toe-to-toe with them, you mean apart from all the goals, our bookings & sending off and huffing & puffing to absolutely no affect, right?

We all want what's best for the club so I don't see what there is to gain from continuing this argument, but suffice to say it's clear to me that we are far from where we ought to be. I hope we don't waste too much time in putting it right. Saturday would be a good start 😀

Have to say Nathan, to suggest Worthing didn't get out of second gear has to be a throw away comment that is clearly not correct.

 

[DonnyNo6]

I've deliberately held back in order to take the emotion out of the result before posting, reading everyone elses posts I guess I agree with bits of all everyone is saying across the board and can see all the different points of view.

I watched the match from a different place on Tuesday, we had one of the girls with us and she wanted to sit down so we perched at the back of the East Stand rather than behind the goal and I was actually sitting next to a groundhopper from Oxford who had never been to Arbour Park before and just in front was a Worthing supporter.

We've all got our take on the formations/tactics and so on but for me I just thought we were to nice at times, I get we were siting off and trying to then spring them on the break but we didn't win enough first or second balls.  When their keeper and centre backs at times could stop and have a hamlet cigar I just think every now and then you've got to get a tackle in as they were simply dictating the pace of the match and is wasn't working for us for periods on end as we weren't then getting the first or second balls to break on them.

I don't think it was a 4-1 hammering and at times we had some good passages of play but the errors at the back are there to be seen so no point me adding to it, I think this in turn then leads to Hubert second guessing a few things and in turn leading to a few nervy moments or errors but again I think the whole back line have a confidence issue at the minute.  We've all been there I'm sure at the different levels we've played but its all relative; a few silly errors and all of a sudden you don't want the ball as much, there's misplaced passes and bit of apprehension when it comes back and so on and so forth but that will settle down with a couple of decent results.

The groundhopper kept asking why we were sitting off so much and that it was madness to let them have the ball at the back when we were chasing the game which I suppose I get, the Worthing supporter couldn't believe their luck with the time and space we gave them but again its all about different views and opinions, it makes the world go around.

One thing I will add is that I've no doubt Scott and the lads will get this sorted and we'll be fine going forward, they've got my support come what may for what that's worth.

 

 

[Scott Davies]

Just a couple of points from me as I’ve read a lot of things and I’ll always try and be open with you guys… Worthing are one of, if not the best passing team in the league. 
 

They leave 4 men on the half way line which is rare… we left 5 back (plus Hubert) as any normal team would… 
That leaves us with 5 players in their half against 7 (including their goalkeeper who is just as comfortable on the ball as any of the outfield players). We cannot be naive and think that in half a pitch against Worthing we have any chance of winning it back so we have to try and cut angles and make the pitch smaller after a few passes.

If we throw another man forward, we leave ourselves 4v4 at the back and very open which is what they want as their keeper against Torquay misses out the short passes and goes direct into the front men, but we had Nashy protecting, hence why they didn’t opt to do that and played short.

The goals they scored came from individual errors, it’s not like we were cut open. Most of Worthing’s goals that they score are after a sequence of passes which leads to breaking teams down. Their No.5 who everyone is going on about having time on the ball in the first third of the pitch is no issue to us.
 
We had 15 shots in the match, they had 8. But when we gift goals through individual errors it’s just something you can’t account for.

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Scott Davies

[Reading Rebel]

19 hours ago, Curtis said:

That’s a very rose tinted glasses view…… so if we hadn’t given away a penalty, had two red cards, made four very poor defensive errors & been unlucky with a deflection we would be mid table with 5 points.

I’m all for a bit of optimism, but the reality is that Scott has significant issues that he needs to resolve before there will be an improvement in the results.

it's not a 'rose tinted view' it's just the facts.

If we hadn't given away the penalty or the individuals concerned didn't make those mistakes that the opposition scored from we would be sitting here with points on the board.

In my view the only significant issue Scott has to resolve is cutting out those individual errors that lead to us gifting the opposition goals.

[Reading Rebel]

I didn't see it clearly on the night but the second yellow for Tyrese and subsequent red card was such a poor decision it was laughable.

If the ref looks back at his decision I'd expect an apology but somehow I doubt it.