Bakes & Unders Resign!

[Stuntman Mark]

Amazing burgers at Hungerford!

[GlenSTFC]

Why don’t we copy their idea or maybe offer the best non league hot dog? If their burgers really bring in tens of thousands a season it should be a serious consideration.

[3spirit]

1 minute ago, Stuntman Mark said:

Amazing burgers at Hungerford!

I used to laugh at an elderly rotund work colleague when he said he preferred a good cheese burger to sexual intercourse. These days I can see his point ! ha ha ha !

[Footyfan007]

3 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

Why don’t we copy their idea or maybe offer the best non league hot dog? If their burgers really bring in tens of thousands a season it should be a serious consideration.

Glen it generates circa £1500 per week.

They have it spot on imo as you walk in beer and food before you pass anything else, Arbour park food outlet is out of sight.

Agreed get this right and market it, this then automatically generates income.

 

4 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

I used to laugh at an elderly rotund work colleague when he said he preferred a good cheese burger to sexual intercourse. These days I can see his point ! ha ha ha !

ha ha

[Windsor Rebel]

As I have stated before, any business (including non league football) sets a budget at the start of

the financial year (or season in footballs case). To go over that budget is bad business practice

unless you get an unexpected windfall (i.e cup run, benefactor etc). We run the club within our means

and certainly dont want to end up chasing success for the sake of exceeding our budget. I have

run successful businesses all my life, and this is how it has to work.

[REBEL MATTERS]

I think the gaffers (on current budget) realised they couldn't take the club any further, so could be a reason behind their decision.

They worked miracles in previous seasons in this league, but unfortunately, this season, if I am honest, the magic just didn't work for them no matter what they tried with the team just falling down the league (in previous years we bounced back after a poor runs).

Someone above (forgive me for not scrolling back up to check) commented about us going down could be a good thing (or budget wise could be our saviour if needs be).

Its a tough one, because every fan wants their club to be successful, no more than us at Slough.

If we did go down (a) would we get back up (b) would we 'want' to get back up.

As fans its a resounding YES, but people who pay the bills, could they say the same.

Its all about ambition and for a lot of us older fans (I am 44) and I know there's older than me on here who saw us in the conference (even though we got some tonkings, just being 'in' the top non league (conference) for me was something else which I will never forget going home and away seeing some 'big' sides come to town. I'd love to see us back in the big time again...

If we are talking 'budget' being a reason, genuine question which I do not know the answer to, what did we have at Wexham Park that we dont here that enabled us to survive? Players on less wages? more fans following us? paying less bills to landlords than we are at Arbour Park? cost of living cheaper?

Before my time, but by stories I hear, oh how I would like to rewind the clock to the Dolphin days...

As a club I dont know where we go from here, but agree, be nice to know more about what is going on behind the scenes and club bosses ambition for the club moving forward.

 

[3spirit]

1 hour ago, REBEL MATTERS said:

I think the gaffers (on current budget) realised they couldn't take the club any further, so could be a reason behind their decision.

They worked miracles in previous seasons in this league, but unfortunately, this season, if I am honest, the magic just didn't work for them no matter what they tried with the team just falling down the league (in previous years we bounced back after a poor runs).

Someone above (forgive me for not scrolling back up to check) commented about us going down could be a good thing (or budget wise could be our saviour if needs be).

Its a tough one, because every fan wants their club to be successful, no more than us at Slough.

If we did go down (a) would we get back up (b) would we 'want' to get back up.

As fans its a resounding YES, but people who pay the bills, could they say the same.

Its all about ambition and for a lot of us older fans (I am 44) and I know there's older than me on here who saw us in the conference (even though we got some tonkings, just being 'in' the top non league (conference) for me was something else which I will never forget going home and away seeing some 'big' sides come to town. I'd love to see us back in the big time again...

If we are talking 'budget' being a reason, genuine question which I do not know the answer to, what did we have at Wexham Park that we dont here that enabled us to survive? Players on less wages? more fans following us? paying less bills to landlords than we are at Arbour Park? cost of living cheaper?

Before my time, but by stories I hear, oh how I would like to rewind the clock to the Dolphin days...

As a club I dont know where we go from here, but agree, be nice to know more about what is going on behind the scenes and club bosses ambition for the club moving forward.

 

Wexham Park Stadium wasn't perfect due to the Berks and Bucks boundary situation that crossed it's land but what was good about it was it had a successful bar set up[and later on function rooms for weddings,events, etc],which many non-league clubs have, that helps them fund these clubs across the land. I'm not sure how this type of thing works for our club now we are in Arbour Park. I'm not sure how popular the bar is [outside of match days] and whether any of it's profit goes to Slough Town FC.

We also have had wealthy owners who have invested their money into the club to keep it afloat. Our current set up is not run like this hence budget restrictions.

Edited November 16, 2022 by 3spirit

[epicrebel]

On 15/11/2022 at 15:01, Footyfan007 said:

Glen it generates circa £1500 per week.

They have it spot on imo as you walk in beer and food before you pass anything else, Arbour park food outlet is out of sight.

Agreed get this right and market it, this then automatically generates income.

 

ha ha

You've got to take into consideration that the council take 50%

[Reading Rebel]

16 hours ago, 3spirit said:

Wexham Park Stadium wasn't perfect due to the Berks and Bucks boundary situation that crossed it's land but what was good about it was it had a successful bar set up[and later on function rooms for weddings,events, etc],which many non-league clubs have, that helps them fund these clubs across the land. I'm not sure how this type of thing works for our club now we are in Arbour Park. I'm not sure how popular the bar is [outside of match days] and whether any of it's profit goes to Slough Town FC.

We also have had wealthy owners who have invested their money into the club to keep it afloat. Our current set up is not run like this hence budget restrictions.

When it comes to functions i.e. Weddings, parties etc I think the original agreement was that we provided the manpower as part of the deal with the Council and the rent we pay.

Not sure if we get any of the profits from the food and drink at these functions but at on match days the bar and food are split 50/50 with the Council. 

[3spirit]

1 hour ago, Reading Rebel said:

When it comes to functions i.e. Weddings, parties etc I think the original agreement was that we provided the manpower as part of the deal with the Council and the rent we pay.

Not sure if we get any of the profits from the food and drink at these functions but at on match days the bar and food are split 50/50 with the Council. 

You would think the council would be flexible with this arrangement and possibly lower their percentage, if they are privvy to the knowledge that football club is struggling to pay. I can understand why it started at 50/50 but you would think by now there would be a better arrangement/mutual trust  for the football club that is representing the town itself in the council owned stadium. Trouble is Slough Council themselves are deep water financially.

At this rate we will end up ground sharing again at Beaconsfield !   

Edited November 17, 2022 by 3spirit

[Reading Rebel]

2 hours ago, 3spirit said:

You would think the council would be flexible with this arrangement and possibly lower their percentage, if they are privvy to the knowledge that football club is struggling to pay. I can understand why it started at 50/50 but you would think by now there would be a better arrangement/mutual trust  for the football club that is representing the town itself in the council owned stadium. Trouble is Slough Council themselves are deep water financially.

At this rate we will end up ground sharing again at Beaconsfield !   

You've just answered your own question 3spirit.

SBC are millions in debt so I'm not sure they will be dishing out any favours.

I suspect you'd be more than happy to return to Beaconsfield in a lower division?

[SloughFlyer]

6 hours ago, 3spirit said:

You would think the council would be flexible with this arrangement and possibly lower their percentage, if they are privvy to the knowledge that football club is struggling to pay. I can understand why it started at 50/50 but you would think by now there would be a better arrangement/mutual trust  for the football club that is representing the town itself in the council owned stadium. Trouble is Slough Council themselves are deep water financially.

At this rate we will end up ground sharing again at Beaconsfield !   

Slough Council wouldn't give a door a bang 3spirit. If they could find an extra £1 down the sofa currently I'm sure they would. We can expect nothing extra from them, I'm pretty sure of that. You are also assuming that Slough council care about Slough!!!!!!!!

Edited November 17, 2022 by SloughFlyer

[Kaiser Gibbs Batman (KGB)]

I haven't lived in Slough for over half my lifetime now and am not particularly familiar with local politics etc. All I would observe is that the picture from the outside is that SBC made provision for a new sports facility which didn't just happen to be suitable for a professional football club playing at the top end of the non-league game when they didn't have to. It would have been easy to say, as many local authorities would have, why don't you patch up your differences with the owners and go back to Wexham Park?  Our local council in Horsham, despite having played fast and loose with Horsham FC over decades, certainly would not have done. At a civic reception following our FA Cup success in 2007 (into which they were shamed into holding by the local press) the council leader, on being told we were exploring the possibility of ground sharing at Crawley pending identification and development of a new ground, replied, dismissively, "Why don't you just go there permanently?" Fortunately wiser counsels prevailed and we now have a splendid new headquarters, paid for from our own resources, but my goodness it was touch and go for a long time. 

[Shredding Green]

Steve Easterbrook put a massive amount of time into getting Slough Town FC back to Slough.

The opening league match at Arbour Park on 29th August 2016 against Hayes & Yeading United attracted a crowd of 1,401. But that was the only four-figure crowd at Arbour Park in the 2016/7 season.

In the 2017/8 season, Rebels astonishingly won their last seven away league matches with six clean sheets and topped it with that incredible 1-2 win in the Southern League Premier Division play-off final at Kings Lynn Town.

I understood that the aim of both the club and Bakes and Unders was to ultimately gain promotion to National League. 

The 2021/2 season continued to see poor gates at Arbour Park, but Rebels did the double over the champions Maidstone United and beat the play-off winners Dorking Wanderers 2-1 at Arbour Park. The two promoted teams both had considerably more financial resources and support than Rebels. Even so, the two teams promoted from National League South currently have the joint worst goals conceded in National League of 42. Of the two clubs promoted from National League North, Gateshead have conceded 32 but are bottom of the table whilst York City have only conceded 20 but manager John Askey recently departed due to an unsatisfactory working relationship with the board. York City's home league attendances have been in the range of 3,492 aganst Bromley to 6,833 against Oldham Athletic.

Before the 2022/3 season began, solidifying a place in National League was looking a long way off but Bakes and Unders put together a squad with the aim of making the play-offs. I felt that Rebels were beaten 0-2 by Chelmsford City at Arbour Park on 16th August by a much better side, which has proved to be the case. Come September, there were signs of the Rebels squad starting to gel and become a very competitive team. Bakes and Unders are renown for their outstanding match management but leading 1-0 at Arbour Park on 17th September against Worthing in the FA Cup with eight minutes to go, they expensively lost 1-3. But it was a good month in the league with 2-1 and 1-0 home wins against Hampton & Richmond Borough and Taunton Town and finishing the month with a 1-1 draw at Braintree Town and a fine 0-1 at Chippenham Town which Bakes and Unders sounded particularly pleased with the performance, the result, the clean sheet and 5-3-2 after 10 matches in the table. 

But then things started to go wrong. Four consecutive home defeats including 2-3 to the bottom club Weymouth, a match which Bakes and Unders consider Rebels should have won inthe last fifteen minutes instead of conceding the winner. 0-2-2 away from home with a dismal 2-1 away defeat at third from bottom Hungerford Town, just when a good performance was required. Although there may be many factors involved, Bakes and Unders have departed amicably and I feel that it being very unlikely that they would now achieve their aim of making the play-offs this season, that they felt that they had taken the club as far as they could.  

What memories and outstanding achievements they leave behind. But unfortunately, the 2022/3 season has not so far seen Rebels have an exceptional win as we had seen many times previously from the renowned Bakes and Unders teams.

I find Arbour Park a very pleasant ground and it is easily accessible for me coming from Iver. I just find it sadly astonishing for such a large town that the gates don't have a 1 in front of the three figures.  

 

   

 

 

[Reading Rebel]

1 hour ago, Shredding Green said:

Steve Easterbrook put a massive amount of time into getting Slough Town FC back to Slough.

The opening league match at Arbour Park on 29th August 2016 against Hayes & Yeading United attracted a crowd of 1,401. But that was the only four-figure crowd at Arbour Park in the 2016/7 season.

In the 2017/8 season, Rebels astonishingly won their last seven away league matches with six clean sheets and topped it with that incredible 1-2 win in the Southern League Premier Division play-off final at Kings Lynn Town.

I understood that the aim of both the club and Bakes and Unders was to ultimately gain promotion to National League. 

The 2021/2 season continued to see poor gates at Arbour Park, but Rebels did the double over the champions Maidstone United and beat the play-off winners Dorking Wanderers 2-1 at Arbour Park. The two promoted teams both had considerably more financial resources and support than Rebels. Even so, the two teams promoted from National League South currently have the joint worst goals conceded in National League of 42. Of the two clubs promoted from National League North, Gateshead have conceded 32 but are bottom of the table whilst York City have only conceded 20 but manager John Askey recently departed due to an unsatisfactory working relationship with the board. York City's home league attendances have been in the range of 3,492 aganst Bromley to 6,833 against Oldham Athletic.

Before the 2022/3 season began, solidifying a place in National League was looking a long way off but Bakes and Unders put together a squad with the aim of making the play-offs. I felt that Rebels were beaten 0-2 by Chelmsford City at Arbour Park on 16th August by a much better side, which has proved to be the case. Come September, there were signs of the Rebels squad starting to gel and become a very competitive team. Bakes and Unders are renown for their outstanding match management but leading 1-0 at Arbour Park on 17th September against Worthing in the FA Cup with eight minutes to go, they expensively lost 1-3. But it was a good month in the league with 2-1 and 1-0 home wins against Hampton & Richmond Borough and Taunton Town and finishing the month with a 1-1 draw at Braintree Town and a fine 0-1 at Chippenham Town which Bakes and Unders sounded particularly pleased with the performance, the result, the clean sheet and 5-3-2 after 10 matches in the table. 

But then things started to go wrong. Four consecutive home defeats including 2-3 to the bottom club Weymouth, a match which Bakes and Unders consider Rebels should have won inthe last fifteen minutes instead of conceding the winner. 0-2-2 away from home with a dismal 2-1 away defeat at third from bottom Hungerford Town, just when a good performance was required. Although there may be many factors involved, Bakes and Unders have departed amicably and I feel that it being very unlikely that they would now achieve their aim of making the play-offs this season, that they felt that they had taken the club as far as they could.  

What memories and outstanding achievements they leave behind. But unfortunately, the 2022/3 season has not so far seen Rebels have an exceptional win as we had seen many times previously from the renowned Bakes and Unders teams.

I find Arbour Park a very pleasant ground and it is easily accessible for me coming from Iver. I just find it sadly astonishing for such a large town that the gates don't have a 1 in front of the three figures.  

 

   

 

 

If you look purely at the population of Slough then yes but as we all know there are a load of other reasons why there is not a 1 in front of our attendances. 

 

 

[Curtis]

Doesn’t time fly?

I can’t believe this was a year ago!