v Billericay

[SloughFlyer]

4 minutes ago, Rebel Wokingham said:

I’m concerned about the negativity that seems to be spreading. Whilst the results aren’t what we’d want them to be, the talk of relegation and must win games in mid October is not good for anyone. I’ve seen most games and the work rate and desire is still there and we should know by now that this is the foundation of Bakes and Under teams. Players are playing for the shirt, the managers are still as passionate about turning things around as they’ve always been and supporters need to stay positive and get behind the team in a poor run. 
 

Negativity can gain momentum, affects confidence, discourages supporters from attending, comments start to get made to players during games. Let’s stick with them all. They’ll turn it around. 

RW - 5 points from 8 games  2nd bottom of the league and out of the FA Cup at the first hurdle doesn't give much to be positive about thus far really does it? I'm also pretty sure that the effect on attendances has already started as any casual fans would look at the teams position in the league and perhaps not fancy watching a team down the bottom.

Just blindly happy clapping the team in this situation isn't good either as the level of performance and especially outcome is clearly not what is wanted by anyone at the club including fans.

IMO facing the reality of the situation is far better than ignoring it and hoping it'll get better.

As I said in my earlier post before the game, im looking forward to Neil and Jon turning things around and proving me wrong and goodness me do I hope they will, but until then, much as when the team is doing well and they get praise, im sure they and the team have broad enough shoulders to take the criticism labeled at them and use it if anything as a catalysis to turn things around.

[Shredding Green]

1 hour ago, Rebel Wokingham said:

I’m concerned about the negativity that seems to be spreading. Whilst the results aren’t what we’d want them to be, the talk of relegation and must win games in mid October is not good for anyone. I’ve seen most games and the work rate and desire is still there and we should know by now that this is the foundation of Bakes and Unders teams. Players are playing for the shirt, the managers are still as passionate about turning things around as they’ve always been and supporters need to stay positive and get behind the team in a poor run. 
 

Negativity can gain momentum, affects confidence, discourages supporters from attending, comments start to get made to players during games. Let’s stick with them all. They’ll turn it around. 

Thank you, Rebel Wokingham. I fully support your comments.

I will miss the home matches against Concord Rangers and Bath City solely because I will be in Whitby. After my return, I do not expect to miss another home match this season.

[Irishadrian]

Seems to me  there's lack of detailed analysis of our results so far 8 1 2 5 looks poor but 3 of those losses are by a single goal the others to Dartford and Ebbsfleet without question two of the best teams in our league  The lads know they have to address the lack of goals but our defence is as good as half the league's  Too early imo for doom and gloom If we are still not improving after 13/14 games one third of the season then my thoughts may well change until then I'll  believe the lads will turn it round.

[Reading Rebel]

It was a poor performance from us against a distinctly average Billericay side.

Not just in certain positions but all over the park we were misfiring and giving the ball away far too often.

For obvious reasons we need to strengthen at the back.

In midfield we were chasing shadows and generally looking weak in the challenge.

Up front for most of the game we just didn't look like scoring. 

Whilst I don't agree with some of what RW say's I do agree that supporters should continue to support the team and have every confidence in Bakes and Unders to turn things around.

 

[Reading Rebel]

29 minutes ago, Irishadrian said:

Seems to me  there's lack of detailed analysis of our results so far 8 1 2 5 looks poor but 3 of those losses are by a single goal the others to Dartford and Ebbsfleet without question two of the best teams in our league  The lads know they have to address the lack of goals but our defence is as good as half the league's  Too early imo for doom and gloom If we are still not improving after 13/14 games one third of the season then my thoughts may well change until then I'll  believe the lads will turn it round.

With a full strength defense available to choose from you might be right but at the moment for various reasons we are not at full strength.  

[Reading Rebel]

A couple of notable absentees.

Ben Harris was named in the pre-match squad but was nowhere to be seen.

No sign of Bakes at the match.

Edited October 17, 2021 by Reading Rebel

[Sir Rebel1965]

No comment now but I will give my full opinion after 12 league games.

 

(Not sure why this went to the other thread)

[Footyfan007]

Here’s my take after watching most games this season versus the teams we have played.

Billericay fall into this catergory that they don’t over play and you could hear there gaffer shouting can you play forward, why because they had height and speed up front and not the most technical of players within the team, but enough about them up front to be annoying and will score goals based on that model as when it is played up front players go into the right spaces as trained, then it comes down to cam they score more in a game then the opposition as their defence would be flakey if tested.

Then we have the Dartford’s and Ebbsfleet type teams who play footy on the deck with a controlled manner and plan of action to open teams up, to which I thought Slough actually did well for a minimum of 60 minutes in each game with our shape off the ball and some counter attacking moments within.

Hungerford, Chippenham and Chelmsford for me all just work hard with a few key players in each team that can change a score line. No significant game plan behind that can’t be undone with what we have and results v these would reflect this.

Yesterday was probably the first game a-side where we all believed we have had some poor decisions or luck in previous games that Slough had an off day all around on the pitch. 

Jon and Neil will fix this and will be hurting during this period, get behind the managers and players during this difficult time as they create an identity of play for the team.

The long ball did not work well yesterday as Tom when winning headers very rarely had enough around him.

Ask any defender apart from Kyle Walker they hate pace being run at or balls in behind we have enough of that in the squad especially with the younger attacking lads and attacking midfielders. 
 

up the rebels 

 

[Reading Rebel]

Just listened back to a bit of rebels radio and a stat that probably sums up one of our problems:

Shots in the match 4 with only 2 on target. 

I can only remember the one shot on target where we scored so I must have missed the other one.

[rebelade]

Yet another game where a decision has gone against us as the disallowed goal is an own goal and couldn’t be a Slough player offside given where the linesman flagged . But saying that we need to create more , just 4 shots in the game for us yesterday.

For me there’s a little imbalance in the side, we are clearly missing Wazza but would like to see a more wide player on the right, maybe AJ George. At the moment we seem to have too many in centre midfield.

Positive signs from yesterday was the play down the left first half and the performance of Lee Togwell who was outstanding throughout the game.

[Reading Rebel]

11 hours ago, rebelade said:

Yet another game where a decision has gone against us as the disallowed goal is an own goal and couldn’t be a Slough player offside given where the linesman flagged . But saying that we need to create more , just 4 shots in the game for us yesterday.

For me there’s a little imbalance in the side, we are clearly missing Wazza but would like to see a more wide player on the right, maybe AJ George. At the moment we seem to have too many in centre midfield.

Positive signs from yesterday was the play down the left first half and the performance of Lee Togwell who was outstanding throughout the game.

I stand to be corrected but standing behind the 'disallowed' goal end I thought the ball came of Joe Lawals leg.

As for A J George, not seen his name mentioned since the last friendly games so just assumed he's not with us anymore.

Absolutely agree that Lee Togs performance yesterday was excellent and by far our motm but I still maintain we are missing his presence in midfield. 

Edited October 17, 2021 by Reading Rebel

[rebelade]

One of our media students has a video of the disallowed goal and it’s definitely an own goal, I’ll see if we can get it posted 

[Reading Rebel]

If it didn't come off Joe Lawals leg I'll have to pay a visit to specsavers ?

 

 

[Reading Rebel]

4 hours ago, Sir Rebel1965 said:

No comment now but I will give my full opinion after 12 league games.

 

(Not sure why this went to the other thread)

Look forward to this with eager anticipation Clive ?

Edited October 17, 2021 by Reading Rebel

[3spirit]

On 15/10/2021 at 18:54, SloughFlyer said:

Unfortunately I think with the looking ahead coming out we are still in trouble as with the greatest respect to Lee Togwell he isn't a centre back and certainly not 1 in this level of football and once again we are in a position (as with Ryan Bird and Nathan Smart before him) of fitting a square peg in a round hole.

Add to the above personally I still have major doubts about North in goal, our inability to score goals and some issues with what should be our strongest position in midfield and think we are already in for a long and extremely challenging season.

I am desperate to be wrong on the above and am looking forward to be proven as such, starting with tomorrow.

I am also keen to see a match go by without "excuses" whether it's a missed pen, a pen given, a pen not given, a ref etc we need to be better in every area of the pitch and I hope this will start tomorrow.

RR - if any person be that a director, a manager, a player or a fan associated with Slough Town thinks that we are in anything but a relegation battle, they are kidding themselves.

Slough Flyer, what team would you start with against Havant next week?  

[SloughFlyer]

7 hours ago, 3spirit said:

Slough Flyer, what team would you start with against Havant next week?  

Difficult question to answer that 3spirit as given the current squad I'm not sure there is much difference to make in selection.

AND

That is exactly the point. The day after the Whitehawk game a month ago I would have been looking at the team and making changes to the current squad to put us in a stronger position by the time we play Havant next weekend!

BUT

If you really want to push me and never being one to run away from a challenge, I would go with (using the current squad) - 

GK - M Edegbe

RB - J Jackman, LB - F Grant, CB - M Nisbet, CB - L Pegg

CDM - L Togwell, CM - A Kuhl, CAM - G Hunt, LM - M Worsfield, RM - J Lawal

ST - B Harris

1. S Fraser, 2. S Davies, 3. E Goueth, 4. S Saied, 5. G George

4-5-1 when we don't have the ball, 4-2-3-1 when we do. 

For the "controversial" "missing" players -

J North - he decision making is terrible for me and I haven't seen anything that stands him out over any other keeper.

M Lench - hasn't been the same player this season at all for me (perhaps playing put of position on the right hasn't helped as all to often he goes missing from that side, making us very easy to stop as we can only attack down the left)

T Derry - wins a decent header but 2 goals in 9 competitive games for what should be our #1 striker isn't good enough.

You obviously also have - Hollis, Bird, W Harris + 4 new players that either are injured or I don't even know if they are listed right on the website so would be a bit unfair to include them.

I would put Lewis Pegg in the side for Saturday (as I would have done from the Hungerford game) for 2 reasons -

1. Much as RR has said a few times, I think we lose too much from not having Togwell in midfield. Early in the season he looked to be struggling with fitness but I'm going to assume he is fully fit.

2. He is a centreback, all be it a young one with no experience. With the experience of Jackman, Nisbet and Grant around him and us letting in goals, I dont see how he can be any worse.

I am 100% certain that the above is also why (along with plenty of other reasons) is why I'm not STFC manager. I am also virtually certain that the above team isn't good enough to get anything out of Havant, but, it's the best I could come up with.

And for those wondering, I also have replacements for the players I've left out from the squad as well as a few others in mind, but won't put those out there for now just in case!!!!!

[Sir Rebel1965]

Oh, its going to be a long week until Saturday with all this wild speculation.

[Reading Rebel]

15 hours ago, SloughFlyer said:

Difficult question to answer that 3spirit as given the current squad I'm not sure there is much difference to make in selection.

AND

That is exactly the point. The day after the Whitehawk game a month ago I would have been looking at the team and making changes to the current squad to put us in a stronger position by the time we play Havant next weekend!

BUT

If you really want to push me and never being one to run away from a challenge, I would go with (using the current squad) - 

GK - M Edegbe

RB - J Jackman, LB - F Grant, CB - M Nisbet, CB - L Pegg

CDM - L Togwell, CM - A Kuhl, CAM - G Hunt, LM - M Worsfield, RM - J Lawal

ST - B Harris

1. S Fraser, 2. S Davies, 3. E Goueth, 4. S Saied, 5. G George

4-5-1 when we don't have the ball, 4-2-3-1 when we do. 

For the "controversial" "missing" players -

J North - he decision making is terrible for me and I haven't seen anything that stands him out over any other keeper.

M Lench - hasn't been the same player this season at all for me (perhaps playing put of position on the right hasn't helped as all to often he goes missing from that side, making us very easy to stop as we can only attack down the left)

T Derry - wins a decent header but 2 goals in 9 competitive games for what should be our #1 striker isn't good enough.

You obviously also have - Hollis, Bird, W Harris + 4 new players that either are injured or I don't even know if they are listed right on the website so would be a bit unfair to include them.

I would put Lewis Pegg in the side for Saturday (as I would have done from the Hungerford game) for 2 reasons -

1. Much as RR has said a few times, I think we lose too much from not having Togwell in midfield. Early in the season he looked to be struggling with fitness but I'm going to assume he is fully fit.

2. He is a centreback, all be it a young one with no experience. With the experience of Jackman, Nisbet and Grant around him and us letting in goals, I dont see how he can be any worse.

I am 100% certain that the above is also why (along with plenty of other reasons) is why I'm not STFC manager. I am also virtually certain that the above team isn't good enough to get anything out of Havant, but, it's the best I could come up with.

And for those wondering, I also have replacements for the players I've left out from the squad as well as a few others in mind, but won't put those out there for now just in case!!!!!

After seeing Mark Nisbet fall to the ground without a player near him and then limp off at full time your team selection could be scuppered already. 

[sdelaney]

Well  done Brighton Rebel  drummer and conductor and all Rebels keeping spirits up.

       REBELS ON TOUR ???

[Reading Rebel]

16 minutes ago, sdelaney said:

Well  done Brighton Rebel  drummer and conductor and all Rebels keeping spirits up.

       REBELS ON TOUR ???

And the Bin ?