Emergency Grant

[GlenSTFC]

Yes true so it’s really 6 months which works out at £15,000 a month which I’d say is around the income we could expect. So we’ve done ok and shouldn’t be too much out of pocket, it’s the smaller clubs like Hungerford and Concord who are receiving a lot more than they would normally get.

[Stan]

Never going to please everyone in these circumstances but its a life belt to keep afloat not a free cruise. If some of the smaller clubs do proportionally better for once , good for them.

Imagine a season where every club has the same budget , players can be recruited but only  within that financial envelope. Then the contest would be between who could field the best motivated players with the best Managed and the best Coached sides. Wouldn’t that be radical! 

[3spirit]

You are not going to keep every club happy, doesn't matter what is offered. Club owners need to put it into context, there are going to be people losing their homes and losing their livelihoods. This is going to take people to the brink and will cause untold upset. A football club can go smaller and be resurrected. It is only a business. People's lives are more valuable than any football club. 

It's odd that Hereford and Chester are clubs moaning given that both have gone bust before.  Slough as a club are in one of the stronger positions, as the poster Stan, pointed out the other week. We need our leaders at our club to 'keep their feet on the floor' and rein in some of their lofty ambitions of recent times, to get through these strange times. 

Thank God, we never got promotion !   

[3spirit]

Stan, we must have been writing at the same time ! On this we seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet.

[Reading Rebel]

Of course you you can't please everyone but lets not kid ourselves, if we were one of these clubs getting crowds of 1,400 to 1,500 and we were given 30k a month I'm sure we would not be happy.

It's the huge disparities that clubs are complaining about.

The money is meant to replace lost support so how can they justify giving Hungerford and Oxford with average attendances of 334 and 368 the same money as Havant and Dartford who have attendances of 1,398 and 1,188. 

 

[Neil Baker]

One thing you have to factor which is why it makes it so tough is those clubs who do 99 pound season tickets etc, Havant for example sold almost 1000 last season which has a huge effect on their average attendance, as it was a lot lower last time they were in this league without that deal.

That is why it makes it so tough to proportion correctly, however still think they could have done it better in respect of the lower supported and higher supported clubs.

[Reading Rebel]

Difficult to argue with these scathing comments from the Maidstone co owner.

http://www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/2020/10/directors-blog-stones-co-owner-hits-out-at-misuse-of-grant/

Edited October 22, 2020 by Reading Rebel

[rebelbrewer]

On 21/10/2020 at 14:08, Neil Baker said:

Whilst this is obviously helpful, we have been 6 months without any income, plus there is no guarantee of what may happen after 3 months, so we will not be going out splashing the cash....

Whilst we all want to be successful and get promoted, we will not do so at the detriment of the club long term, and that is where we probably differ from most managers out there.

That is not to say that if we can improve within reason we won’t, as of course we will.

Wise as ever, Neil. The Brewer part of my name on here comes from a few years living and working in the Midlands when we saw Burton go from Southern Prem to nearly EFL (they made it the year after we left.) Their watchword was always steady growth and progressive improvement that could be afforded and (although last year was a disappointment and this year has not started well for them) that has stood them in very good stead and took them to the Championship. I think the decision making at the Rebels has been very good in that regard too. Obviously I want us to be promoted again but not if we can't sustain it and would fall back to an even lower level.

[3spirit]

3 hours ago, Reading Rebel said:

Of course you you can't please everyone but lets not kid ourselves, if we were one of these clubs getting crowds of 1,400 to 1,500 and we were given 30k a month I'm sure we would not be happy.

It's the huge disparities that clubs are complaining about.

The money is meant to replace lost support so how can they justify giving Hungerford and Oxford with average attendances of 334 and 368 the same money as Havant and Dartford who have attendances of 1,398 and 1,188. 

 

But on the other hand is that Oxford City or Hungerford's fault that they can't drum up more supporters. They are still a football club in the same division as Havant and Dartford. Personally, I think each club in the division should have the same equal amount. That way it doesn't discriminate and it doesn't favour the bigger supported clubs. 

[Reading Rebel]

Without the right financial backing there will always be some sort of risk if we were to get promoted to the NL.

But with the right people at the helm making the right decisions, which we have at Slough, I don't see it as a gamble but more of an opportunity to progress as a club.

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by Reading Rebel

[3spirit]

3 minutes ago, Reading Rebel said:

Without the right financial backing there will always be some sort of risk if we were to get promoted to the NL.

But with the right people at the helm making the right decisions, which we have at Slough, I don't see it as a gamble but more of an opportunity to progress as a club.

 

You say that but who's our financial backer now. Is it still Steve Easterbrook or has he totally gone?  No one yet has explained this situation.Well, not to my knowledge. I know the club is supposed to be on an even keel finances wise, in regards to last season and supposedly this season but what of the future?

[Reading Rebel]

3 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

But on the other hand is that Oxford City or Hungerford's fault that they can't drum up more supporters. They are still a football club in the same division as Havant and Dartford. Personally, I think each club in the division should have the same equal amount. That way it doesn't discriminate and it doesn't favour the bigger supported clubs. 

Of course it's not their fault but most clubs are managed and run based upon what income comes in from supporters and other sources.

This money is to replace lost income from the non attendance of supporters and as such should be dished out fairly based upon the average attendance a club gets over the course of a season.

Otherwise aren't they discriminating against clubs for having a bigger fan base? 

[Reading Rebel]

3 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

You say that but who's our financial backer now. Is it still Steve Easterbrook or has he totally gone?  No one yet has explained this situation.Well, not to my knowledge. I know the club is supposed to be on an even keel finances wise, in regards to last season and supposedly this season but what of the future?

As far as I'm aware Steve Easterbrook has not backed Slough financially for quite some time now.

  

[3spirit]

1 minute ago, Reading Rebel said:

Of course it's not their fault but most clubs are managed and run based upon what income comes in from supporters and other sources.

This money is to replace lost income from the non attendance of supporters and as such should be dished out fairly based upon the average attendance a club gets over the course of a season.

Otherwise aren't they discriminating against clubs for having a bigger fan base? 

Good point but when does the bigger fan base clubs ever really care about the smaller supported clubs? Most just want to climb the ladder and get away from the smaller clubs. They always seem to expect more, in whatever regard it is, it seems to me.   

[3spirit]

1 minute ago, Reading Rebel said:

As far as I'm aware Steve Easterbrook has not backed Slough financially for quite some time now.

  

So who is?

Reading Rebel, you said in your post that 'Slough had the right people at the helm to get Slough promoted'.

As far as I can see we only have ordinary supporters[but lovely people!:-] ]running the club. I know we've finally, after all these years, got sponsorship from the Slough trading estate. I'm also aware of Morgan Sindall's sponsorship and of course, Slough Borough Council's involvement with the ground but who is making the financial decisions?

I know this question has mystified a number of supporters, as I get asked this question regularly.

[Irishadrian]

29 minutes ago, Reading Rebel said:

As far as I'm aware Steve Easterbrook has not backed Slough financially for quite some time now.

  

And yet the club still claim that his company still owns and runs the club website?

[Irishadrian]

I think we can be quite satisfied with the 30000 grand we got  If clubs had received the cash they would have got based on attendances alone  then 13 got more than they  would have and 8 got less  Dulwich would have got 80000 and Maidstone 66000 which was probably why they got 36000 We almost got parity we got 30000 and would have got 30787 based on attendances  I think we did OK although all clubs want more.

[GlenSTFC]

11 minutes ago, Irishadrian said:

And yet the club still claim that his company still owns and runs the club website?

Are you saying Steve owns a company that owns the official website? If yes what relevance is that?

[GlenSTFC]

2 minutes ago, Irishadrian said:

I think we can be quite satisfied with the 30000 grand we got  If clubs had received the cash they would have got based on attendances alone  then 13 got more than they  would have and 8 got less  Dulwich would have got 80000 and Maidstone 66000 which was probably why they got 36000 We almost got parity we got 30000 and would have got 30787 based on attendances  I think we did OK although all clubs want more.

I think it’s fair to say the calculations aren’t right and they of course won’t reveal how they did it. It’s baffling why they asked for each club to send in revenue forms when it seems these haven’t been looked at! You can understand why the clubs who get well over 1,000 aren’t happy as those who get 300.

[GlenSTFC]

37 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

So who is?

Reading Rebel, you said in your post that 'Slough had the right people at the helm to get Slough promoted'.

As far as I can see we only have ordinary supporters[but lovely people!:-] ]running the club. I know we've finally, after all these years, got sponsorship from the Slough trading estate. I'm also aware of Morgan Sindall's sponsorship and of course, Slough Borough Council's involvement with the ground but who is making the financial decisions?

I know this question has mystified a number of supporters, as I get asked this question regularly.

There is no money man at Slough just as you say very good people running the club. The club pays out what it earns from match revenue and any other sponsorships. This is why our budget is more mid table than promotion chasing.