Emergency Grant

[Windsor Rebel]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54352735

[Reading Rebel]

Sounds like some good news.

The only fly in the ointment is that the details won't be known until the weekend but the grants will cover 'essential losses'

By that I would assume they mean the grant will cover at the very least the loss of supporter revenue through the turnstiles.

[GlenSTFC]

I bet it won’t be made public what each club gets and probably won’t be the amount required either. But... anything is better than nothing I guess and at least should mean the season can start and hopefully the FA will finally realise fans can attend safely at our level.

[Reading Rebel]

16 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

I bet it won’t be made public what each club gets and probably won’t be the amount required either. But... anything is better than nothing I guess and at least should mean the season can start and hopefully the FA will finally realise fans can attend safely at our level.

I suppose as long as clubs are happy with the amount they get it shouldn't be a concern.

The only problem I see is that we will probably have kicked off Saturdays game before the financial support package details are known and then of course players contracts will have started.

Edited September 30, 2020 by Reading Rebel

[Jafooly]

What is the final time/date we can pull out of the season if the financial support isn't sufficient.

[Reading Rebel]

I would think the biggest problem would be players contracts.

Once the first ball is kicked contracts have to be honored and if the financial support is not enough clubs will be in trouble.

Hopefully the details will be known by tomorrow at the latest. 

[Reading Rebel]

So we are less than 24 hours before we kick off our season and we still don't know if we can pay our contracted players for the season.

Calling this a shambolic farce is being too polite.

[3spirit]

Great stuff,though, MP Tan Dhesi mentioning Slough Town FC in Parliament. That doesn't happen everyday of the week !  Good on him.

[HorshamRebel]

https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/31570/the-national-league-to-receive-10-million-rescue-package-from-government/

 

[epicrebel]

so once the national league have their cut of the £10 million, not much left for the South and North  

[GlenSTFC]

I predict £300k each per NL clubs and £65k each per NS/N clubs.

[Reading Rebel]

You would like to think the money would be shared out fairly according to what each club has put forward as their essential losses.

I would certainly hope we would get more than the 65k Glen mentions which I think would be nowhere near enough.

The statement say's the NL have communicated with clubs so each club now knows how much they are getting.

Presumably no news will be good news. 

 

Edited October 2, 2020 by Reading Rebel

[SloughFlyer]

Reading the statement on the website (both NL and ours) it looks like the grant will be month to month. I guess that'll allow review so that as and when fans are allowed back, we'll be good to go.

[GlenSTFC]

1 hour ago, Reading Rebel said:

You would like to think the money would be shared out fairly according to what each club has put forward as their essential losses.

I would certainly hope we would get more than the 65k Glen mentions which I think would be nowhere near enough.

The statement say's the NL have communicated with clubs so each club now knows how much they are getting.

Presumably no news will be good news. 

 

How much would we usually make per home game? 800 fans with half season ticket holders. So around 400 paying fans on the day. Let’s say a conservative figure of £12 per head spend gives a total of £4,800. Average 3 homes games a month equals around £15,000 per month in revenue (not profit). If this grant was around £22,000 per month is that so bad?

[Curtis]

Each round of league matches:-

12 NLP matches average attendances last season 2,200 = 26,400

11 NLN matches average attendances last season 1,100 = 12,100

11 NLS matches average attendances last season 900 = 9,900

Total fans per round of matches 48,400 and approximately 15 matches per club over the next three months = 726,000 fans attending matches.

So, the Emergency grant is approximately £15 per fan, of which the NLP will probably want £16.50 and give the NLS & NLN £12.

That will likely give the average NLP club approximately £270,000 (x 23 = £6,210,000) & the average NLN & NLS club approximately £90,000 (x 43 = £3,870,000).

And I think our attendances were average for our league last season, so the would be £90,000.

Alternatively, they may just have added up all the clubs estimates of forecast lost income, in which case I hope we have submitted at least £90,000.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Curtis

[Reading Rebel]

2 hours ago, GlenSTFC said:

How much would we usually make per home game? 800 fans with half season ticket holders. So around 400 paying fans on the day. Let’s say a conservative figure of £12 per head spend gives a total of £4,800. Average 3 homes games a month equals around £15,000 per month in revenue (not profit). If this grant was around £22,000 per month is that so bad?

When I said 65k was nowhere near enough I was basing it upon 6 months but I've now read it's for 3 months so maybe not so bad.

[Jon Underwood]

11 hours ago, Reading Rebel said:

You would like to think the money would be shared out fairly according to what each club has put forward as their essential losses.

I would certainly hope we would get more than the 65k Glen mentions which I think would be nowhere near enough.

The statement say's the NL have communicated with clubs so each club now knows how much they are getting.

Presumably no news will be good news. 

 

Just to be clear we have no more info than you guys! We have been told that the split by club will be communicated ‘soon’. Puts us in a very difficult position but we have to go ahead, start the season and hope we get a fair amount which allows us to carry on as planned.

My guess, based on nothing else but gut feel given the size of clubs in the league above, is £6m to the NL and £4m between the NLN and NLS.

That would mean 250k to each NL club and 93k each to the 43 clubs at step two, all for the 3 month period.

 

[Alan Greenaway]

It was interesting listening to Neil's post match interview at Dartford and his " Bitter Disappointment" in how this has all been handled. What was also interesting was the fact that for the play off finals the league were given £200,000 to help with the staging of these but the clubs only saw £72,000 of this and the League kept £128,000 for their admin costs. ( Xmas party??).

If this is typical, how much of the £10 mill will the clubs see? We may need to recalculate how much the NLS clubs will actually get.

Clearly Neil, Jon and the board are frustrated as are the supporters.

What worries me more is the whole  saga from the playoffs, The money received from the Prem League which was eventually a Loan rather than a grant and know this Debacle.

If the NL purport to be a professionally run body they have failed to prove this over the last few months. For many years they have run the League iike a dictatorship and when they have been asked to step up to the plate they have failed their member clubs miserably. Everyone one talks about the FA and the "Blazers" running the association. The NL board are no different. If they were accountable to ALL of the member clubs - providing they had a simple one vote per club rather than the undemocratic loading towards the NL teams- I am sure they would be voted off the board just as any other board member would be by their shareholders in a normal institution.

 

I feel for our managers and others like Paul Doswell, Marc White and other managers who run their own professional companies and have to put up with all this " crap"

They want to put out the best teams they can without having to become embroiled in all of this.

 

 

[Reading Rebel]

I though I misheard Bakes when he said that the clubs involved only received 72k from the 200k given to the NL.

Unfortunately the NL have proven yet again where there's money involved there's corruption.

Edited October 4, 2020 by Reading Rebel

[Curtis]

This was in the Cheshire post back on 16th July:-

The National League received a solidarity payment of £200,000 to help the clubs competing in the play-offs across the three divisions with costs. Chester have received a slice of that which equates to £4,000.

Morris said: "Financial support from the National League and wider footballing family has been limited to support Non League clubs to conclude our season, the only support of note is that Premier League have donated £200,000 which is appreciated, however following the deduction of costs and a split between the play-off clubs this comes in at around £4,000 per club."

The only person that seems to get any answers out of the National League is that Ollie Bayliss, so it might be worthwhile tweeting him and asking him for an explanation of exactly how the Premier Leagues £200,000 was allocated , and what the National Leagues costs deduction was for.