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Sir Rebel1965

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Totally agree RR, so far this season we have been to Burnham and Binfield and will be at both again this week.

Unfortunately, these are the parameters that the government have set and the problem is, the NLS was classified as "elite" to allow the playoffs as argued by the clubs themselves (not the government "lumping us in") hence the cake and eat it comment. We can't be elite when it suits us and not when it doesn't!

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1 minute ago, SloughFlyer said:

Totally agree RR, so far this season we have been to Burnham and Binfield and will be at both again this week.

Unfortunately, these are the parameters that the government have set and the problem is, the NLS was classified as "elite" to allow the playoffs as argued by the clubs themselves (not the government "lumping us in") hence the cake and eat it comment. We can't be elite when it suits us and not when it doesn't!

They didn't have to use the term elite.

Whats wrong with just separating league clubs (even though some of them in div 1 & 2 would struggle without fans) from non league?

It was their choice to use the term elite without what seems much thought which I suppose is on par for this useless lot in power.

 

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I did wonder when you said common sense earlier???. 

A re-classification would be a good idea, but I'm sure having had a good insight into the leisure industries discussions with the government about re-opening gyms, that it isn't that simple (when is it ever). At this point I think we are set at hurry up and wait point. As I said, hopefully they can get the trials done and we can start getting back to fans in "elite" grounds as I'm sure there are plenty of clubs that will struggle for a long time to come / go out of business entirely if things don't change sooner rather than later.

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30 minutes ago, SloughFlyer said:

Glen - what difference would that make? Its not the ground that's the issue. The clubs in NLS wanted to be "Elite" sport a few months ago so the playoffs could be played, now they don't want to be so fans can be allowed in. You can't have your cake and eat it! The only reason Step 3 and below are allowed fans is because they are "recreational" sport.

The interesting part is the FA Cup 2nd qualifying round and how the FA play that one. Theoretically, we could be drawn away at say Burnham or Binfield and allowed in but if we are drawn at home im not so sure!

Hopefully, this will all be a mute point, but timings are getting close now!

Ok you tell me what a player earns (elite status) has got to do with allowing fans into a ground? The standard of player on the pitch should have absolutely nothing to do when deciding if fans can attend! What makes this decision the biggest mockery is when lower level ground sharing teams can play but the higher level can’t.

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What a player earns has nothing to do with allowing fans into the ground, why? The elite status was what allowed us to play the playoffs which we, the NLS clubs wanted (and I'm sure Weymouth are pleased they did, the others, perhaps not so much now).

I 100% agree that the rules are clearly a nonsense, but they are the rules and my point from your post was and is, why would playing at Windsor or anywhere else make a difference? Especially strange point you made as well as I assume, given the point you made about ground sharing, you are aware that both Chalvey Sports and Slough ladies have played at Arbour Park with fans in this weekend.

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3 minutes ago, SloughFlyer said:

What a player earns has nothing to do with allowing fans into the ground, why? The elite status was what allowed us to play the playoffs which we, the NLS clubs wanted (and I'm sure Weymouth are pleased they did, the others, perhaps not so much now).

I 100% agree that the rules are clearly a nonsense, but they are the rules and my point from your post was and is, why would playing at Windsor or anywhere else make a difference? Especially strange point you made as well as I assume, given the point you made about ground sharing, you are aware that both Chalvey Sports and Slough ladies have played at Arbour Park with fans in this weekend.

Because this is about stadiums and fans not how much a player earns. If 2 clubs share the same ground and one is allowed to admit fans but the other not, show me the logic in that! Rules may be rules but some tit mightily f***ed up on this one...

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1 hour ago, SloughFlyer said:

Totally agree RR, so far this season we have been to Burnham and Binfield and will be at both again this week.

Unfortunately, these are the parameters that the government have set and the problem is, the NLS was classified as "elite" to allow the playoffs as argued by the clubs themselves (not the government "lumping us in") hence the cake and eat it comment. We can't be elite when it suits us and not when it doesn't!

To be fair all clubs argued that clubs and players down to step 5/6 could be classed as elite, and not just national league, the definition of an elite sportsmen is someone who derives an income from it, does not have to be main income or full time, and the national league put a figure of 100 a week on that...

I can tell you for fact that some clubs 3 leagues below are paying players this type of money.

That is where this is all ridiculous... I can guarantee you that if step 3 teams had the option to argue the case they were elite to finish their leagues and play the play offs they would have.

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1 hour ago, SloughFlyer said:

I did wonder when you said common sense earlier???. 

A re-classification would be a good idea, but I'm sure having had a good insight into the leisure industries discussions with the government about re-opening gyms, that it isn't that simple (when is it ever). At this point I think we are set at hurry up and wait point. As I said, hopefully they can get the trials done and we can start getting back to fans in "elite" grounds as I'm sure there are plenty of clubs that will struggle for a long time to come / go out of business entirely if things don't change sooner rather than later.

If they had an ounce of common sense a re-classification wouldn't be needed. 

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15 minutes ago, Neil Baker said:

To be fair all clubs argued that clubs and players down to step 5/6 could be classed as elite, and not just national league, the definition of an elite sportsmen is someone who derives an income from it, does not have to be main income or full time, and the national league put a figure of 100 a week on that...

I can tell you for fact that some clubs 3 leagues below are paying players this type of money.

That is where this is all ridiculous... I can guarantee you that if step 3 teams had the option to argue the case they were elite to finish their leagues and play the play offs they would have.

I am sure you are right Neil, and of course had they had that option, "won" the argument, they would be in the same boat as we are. 

The "reason" for being called elite is, unfortunately, at this point clearly irrelevant to those making the decisions, hence the position we find ourselves in.

For clarity on my position on the topic, it is my belief that every level (including the Premier league) should be governed by risk assessment around this topic. The clubs should, as the step 3 and below teams had to, present their assessment and plans to the government and decisions could be taken from there. Unfortunately it seems the government departments in charge of these types of things done buy into that idea at all!

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5 minutes ago, rebelade said:

Just a question, and I’m not having a go or singling anyone out, but would you rather the club offer season tickets now despite not knowing if you could attend all the games or would you rather wait for more clarification on the situation before buying?

If a decision on attendance and crowd size was imminent within the next week or so it would probably be better to wait providing it still gives us enough time to sell and produce the tickets.

As far as I'm concerned season tickets are normally such good value if they were on sale now and some games were chalked off it wouldn't be a problem.

 

  

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An article in The Times is saying the government intended allowing attendances of one third capacity from 1st October but might now restrict capacity to either 1,000 or 2,500.

If it is restricted to the lower of the three, what is our official capacity? Wiki has it listed as 2,000, is that correct?

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