th new pyramid

[CANV EFM]

ok.. when is it gonna happen and whats the new set up gonna be..does anyone know?

[GazzaBTFC]

I'm a bit confused about it all.<p>What with The Conference rowing with the Football League, The Conference acting all "holier than thou" with all the feeder leagues, I just wish someone can explain, in very simple terms what is going to happen and when.

[Guest]

The Pyramid restructuring has hit a hitch. No-one can agree. At a meeting 2 weeks ago deadlock prevailed and the talks scrapped. The FA will have to re-think its strategm on this one.

[Guest]

Oh! by the way Gazza, are you going to join the jolly boys Non-League fans festive bevvy on the 22nd December in London. A pint or 7 with the oppposition fans. All welcome, let me know and I'll tell you where we are meeting up. Nice to put a name to a face and to cadge a beer off you. (Singing allowed!).

[Guest]

Sorry, the proposal was...<p>level 5 - Conference

level 6 - Two new Divisions (North and South)

level 7 - 4 Divisions.

North, Midlands & West, Eastern, Southern

level 8 - as is<p>Because of last minute Isthmian representation, talks were abandoned at the 15th November meeting for further consultation. No date set yet for the next round of arguments, sorry negotiations.

[David Holden]

We of course the Isthmian wouldn't like it after it has nothing going for it has it.<p>It's fair, it makes sense geographically and it provides a gradual move from local to national football.<p>So back to the drawing board eh?

[Guest]

You are assuming the demise of the Isthmian. Well partly true, it will be downgraded in the structure. It is what happens to the teams theirin that is of most concern. Frankly the Conference and DML are happy to see the demise of every Ryman Club below Premier level and even at Ryman Premier level, the DML wants to pick and chose who integrates into its' new self important League. I really don't think that many realise the implications of the Pyramid Restructuring, which the FA is tugging along like a steam train for some reason.

[Guest]

All Isthmian clubs (well, full members anyway) have been asked by the Rymans League whether they are in favour of three feeder leagues to the Conference.<p>They have also been asked by the FA whether they were in favour of the new FA proposals.<p>How many clubs answered yes to both?

[cangull]

Well 'Canv' and the rest of us CIFC supporters have been neglected on the invite for the big jolly on the 22nd December, I suppose we genuinely are disliked. I am sure Gazza with all the Local derby between us wouldn't even buck on that one?

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C'mon lads, were a nice lot down here, really!!

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[Merv]

Vic, like the great Groucho Marx almost said, would you join a jolly where people like yourself are invited?<p>Lets organise our own, where the likes of you and I would be really welcome. We'll watch the Purfleet game on 22nd, go in the bar for a few and then down to the Saqui for a Ruby? Only REAL Canvey fans invited (no tickets on sale at Kings for the closet supporters to muscle in on!!!)<p>What about it?<p>Merv CUFC

[cangull]

Sounds good to me, will have natter with you when we next meet!

[Guest]

I did actually say "all welcome" as indeed all are. Most of us attending have never met before, there is no clique, no wishing to be aloof. Just a few beers in a pub. I'd love to see what you lot are really like. (Anyway, December 11th for the Canvey fans at Woodside Park irrespective of anything else). December 22nd in London, venue and time to be announced. Hope to see you ALL there..and no sulking

[Colin, Germany]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dave GNFC:

<strong>It's fair, it makes sense geographically and it provides a gradual move from local to national football.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>It makes geographical sense if you consider the shape of England (and Wales?) to be approximately a 2 x 1 rectangle. If, however, you think that England is more like a triangle (presumably Kent in one corner, Cornwall in another corner, and the Scottish border in the third corner), then three feeder leagues would make more geographical sense. If you think that England is approximately square (Lands End, Dover, Berwick and Carlisle), four feeder leagues might be better.<p>Any number of feeder leagues could be fair. It doesn't depend on how many feeder leagues there are at each stage. It depends on how the promotion places are awarded. A particularly fair system would have no automatic play-off places. All the promotion places would be awarded in play-offs between the first teams in each feeder league. This does not apply to promotion when there is only one feeder league, of course. In this case, automatic promotion for the top teams is as fair as you can get.<p>When you say that a steep pyramid provides a gradual move from local to national football, I do not see where the advantage is. An ambitious club (like Canvey Island?) should have the opportunity to move up faster. This would mean a shallower pyramid, and not a steeper one.<p>I see that I shall have to make some more amendments to the pyramid pages of

Come On You ETs.