Weymouth

[Guest Wycombe Rebel]

3 hours ago, RebelMatters said:

this Drunken idiot, is he someone some have seen before? Surely doesn’t sound like a regular who appreciates all the gaffers have for our club

Match sponsor I’m told

[rebelade]

Just for SloughFlyer

If we were in the same team and you took a penalty and missed, I would say to you ‘head up’, ‘don’t worry ‘ or ‘ get back into it’. Yes I’d be gutted you missed but I wouldn’t go and say anything negative, so it’s exactly the same when I’m a fan. 

When Jack came to take the penalty I firmly believed he would score. If I was behind the goal I’d have sung even louder after the penalty miss otherwise the negativity spreads.

Hope that explains 

Ade

[3spirit]

5 hours ago, Curtis said:

I wasn’t at the match yesterday, but would be very interested to know what the Slough fans reaction was when they realised Jack Turner was heading up to take the penalty...... were they generally pleased & supportive of it? Or was there an attitude of disbelief?
 

I have got to admit I would have been in the latter category, because in all the years I have watched football I don’t recall ever seeing a goalkeeper stepping up to take a penalty in open play. Although I have heard of a handful of South American goalkeepers taking penalties & free kicks.

So in that context, it was a unique & monumental decision by our Managers, which if Jack had scored would probably have been considered to be an inspired decision, but because he didn’t looks flawed...... thankfully Weymouth didn’t score from the outcome or it would likely have gone viral on social media.

I, too, wasn't at the match but like you, Curtis, found the decision to have Jack taking the penalty, a strange one. I don't question Bakes and Unders knowledge of their players or of their acumen, as anyone rational will know they are sound guys, great man managers and excellent men to have at the helm of running the team. I consider Slough FC to be very fortunate to have them, and from my own point of view, I like them and see them as good people.

From my perspective, though, we ought to be able to find several outfield players who can take penalties, as it's hardly the hardest of things to do on the football field. Surely honing these skills in training can be easily achieved. I just can't see the point of Jack taking them, when he needs to be protecting his goal mouth, rather than being right up the other end of play and thus having a chance of easily conceding a breakaway goal. 

I don't mind, by and large our managers experimenting and trying new things but Jack taking a penalty yesterday, did seem a rather daft idea to try in such an important fixture, given the importance of playing a fellow play off contender, and our duff result against Hungerford last week. 

Missing the occasional penalty is no big deal to me. I would have thought the onus is on our strikers to take a reasonable penalty, closely followed by our attacking midfielders. Not our goalkeeper. The clue is in the name !

[Reading Rebel]

3 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

I, too, wasn't at the match but like you, Curtis, found the decision to have Jack taking the penalty, a strange one. I don't question Bakes and Unders knowledge of their players or of their acumen, as anyone rational will know they are sound guys, great man managers and excellent men to have at the helm of running the team. I consider Slough FC to be very fortunate to have them, and from my own point of view, I like them and see them as good people.

From my perspective, though, we ought to be able to find several outfield players who can take penalties, as it's hardly the hardest of things to do on the football field. Surely honing these skills in training can be easily achieved. I just can't see the point of Jack taking them, when he needs to be protecting his goal mouth, rather than being right up the other end of play and thus having a chance of easily conceding a breakaway goal. 

I don't mind, by and large our managers experimenting and trying new things but Jack taking a penalty yesterday, did seem a rather daft idea to try in such an important fixture, given the importance of playing a fellow play off contender, and our duff result against Hungerford last week. 

Missing the occasional penalty is no big deal to me. I would have thought the onus is on our strikers to take a reasonable penalty, closely followed by our attacking midfielders. Not our goalkeeper. The clue is in the name !

As we all know taking penalties in training is a doddle compared to the pressure of a match.

 

[3spirit]

1 minute ago, Reading Rebel said:

As we all know taking penalties in training is a doddle compared to the pressure of a match.

 

True but coaching is about improving your game, and our strikers should be able to take a penalty. Given that penalties are given in most games, I would have at least, 5 good penalty takers in my squad but the goalkeeper would not be one of them.

[Rebellier]

As Jon stated in his post on here earlier, there WAS a plan should it go wrong. 

I wonder what would have happened though if the keeper made a clean save (ball in both hands) then proceeded to drop kick it into our goal?

Maybe Ben could temporarily mind it while Jack is up the other end?

[Rebellier]

Fame at last for us.......

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2020/mar/15/non-league-football-carries-on-for-now-in-pictures-football-coronavirus

[sdelaney]

As a true optimistic supporter who made the long trip to the game it felt like the game until there penalty was played as a friendly with both teams wondering why the game was being played at all with the circumstances the country and world is facing.

Once they scored the penalty then the game picked up when we got the penalty I said to 2 Weymouth supporters our goalie scored a pen on Tuesday and was very optimistic that Jack would score and at no time did I say that the managers made a bad decision it has not been mentioned that we had a very good shout for another pen even 2 in the last half hour. The so called supporters who abused the managers should be ashamed of themselves and banned from the club.

[Reading Rebel]

Fully concur with the statement put out by the club.

We don't need or want the people who sling abuse at our players and managers.

Criticise by all means but the line must be drawn at abuse. 

[Windsor Rebel]

Who are these idiots then, does anyone know/recognise them/ Do not think they are regular away supporters to be honest

[Mattc11]

On 15/03/2020 at 08:21, rebelbrewer said:

Disgraceful? You are absolutely entitled to think it was a mistake. I make mistakes doing my job every week and I guess you do too, but no one calls them disgraceful. All criticism has to be in context and most of their decisions work out well, we have 2 promotions in quick succession and a team ethic that's the envy of the league.

I'm sure it wasn't you that abused Jon and Neil but for both of them are so obviously upset that some people were obviously way put of order and that's much more important than losing the game to me.

I define myself as a supporter not a fan, meaning that when the going gets tough I encourage and support (not agree with everything) but pitch in to do my bit to make the club a success.

Of course we all make mistakes,  for me this was a planned decision and one I heavily disagree with, you can't allow a goalkeeper to take a penalty in that situation,  we could have easily have been 2 nil down within 15 secs of the penalty been missed instead Warren ( I believe) has had to go flying in to stop a counter attack cause our keeper is no where near the goal we should be defending! You do the simple things first in football and for me we didn't do this. 

It's all hypothetical but if Jack scored on Saturday and the season ends we reach the playoff final 0-0 with a minute to go we get a penalty Jack takes it and misses the other team go down the other end and score, what would be the reaction then? 

Just because Weymouth may be the last game for some time I don't think tactically the correct decision was made..... in my opinion. 

[epicrebel]

1 hour ago, Mattc11 said:

Of course we all make mistakes,  for me this was a planned decision and one I heavily disagree with, you can't allow a goalkeeper to take a penalty in that situation,  we could have easily have been 2 nil down within 15 secs of the penalty been missed instead Warren ( I believe) has had to go flying in to stop a counter attack cause our keeper is no where near the goal we should be defending! You do the simple things first in football and for me we didn't do this. 

It's all hypothetical but if Jack scored on Saturday and the season ends we reach the playoff final 0-0 with a minute to go we get a penalty Jack takes it and misses the other team go down the other end and score, what would be the reaction then? 

Just because Weymouth may be the last game for some time I don't think tactically the correct decision was made..... in my opinion. 

2 things

1 Jack scores this wouldn't be discussed 

2 How many time have teams (us) had say a corner and 10 seconds later we've conceded. 

You are just looking on the negative. 

[Mattc11]

23 minutes ago, epicrebel said:

2 things

1 Jack scores this wouldn't be discussed 

2 How many time have teams (us) had say a corner and 10 seconds later we've conceded. 

You are just looking on the negative. 

sorry the fact he didn't score is why this is been discussed, and on your 2nd point you are spot on and I'm sure the management team would be livid to concede a goal when we had a corner so why is this any different? One of the first things you do when having an attacking set piece is to make sure your defensively set up and in my opinion when a goalkeeper takes a penalty you are not defensively set up as well as you could. 

I'm looking at the negative and discussing the negative as in my opinion there is no positive in the penalty incident and what followed after if you can provided a positive outlook on that incident then I'm open to listen.  

 

[codpiece]

4 hours ago, Windsor Rebel said:

Who are these idiots then, does anyone know/recognise them/ Do not think they are regular away supporters to be honest

Is there any truth as someone pointed out on Twitter that these fans were from Barnet whose game at Yeovil was postponed?I’d be surprised if they were regular rebel.

[rebelbrewer]

4 hours ago, Mattc11 said:

Of course we all make mistakes,  for me this was a planned decision and one I heavily disagree with, you can't allow a goalkeeper to take a penalty in that situation,  we could have easily have been 2 nil down within 15 secs of the penalty been missed instead Warren ( I believe) has had to go flying in to stop a counter attack cause our keeper is no where near the goal we should be defending! You do the simple things first in football and for me we didn't do this. 

It's all hypothetical but if Jack scored on Saturday and the season ends we reach the playoff final 0-0 with a minute to go we get a penalty Jack takes it and misses the other team go down the other end and score, what would be the reaction then? 

Just because Weymouth may be the last game for some time I don't think tactically the correct decision was made..... in my opinion. 

Perfectly fine to have the opinion and express it - I just think the word "disgraceful" is too strong.

[Curtis]

3 hours ago, epicrebel said:

2 things

1 Jack scores this wouldn't be discussed 

2 How many time have teams (us) had say a corner and 10 seconds later we've conceded. 

You are just looking on the negative. 

Two questions:-

1. Who was the last goalkeeper to take a penalty in open play in the top four divisions of English football?

2. When was that?

[Curtis]

The most recent I can find is:-

1.  Bruce Grobbelaar in his last loan game & last game of the season in a 2-0 win over York

2. 3rd May 1980 (were Bakes & Unders even born then?)

[rebelade]

1 hour ago, Curtis said:

Two questions:-

1. Who was the last goalkeeper to take a penalty in open play in the top four divisions of English football?

2. When was that?

Not in the top 4 divisions but Breeden who was in goal at Leamington and now Nuneaton took them before his miss that hit the stand light earlier this season 

1 hour ago, Curtis said:

Two questions:-

1. Who was the last goalkeeper to take a penalty in open play in the top four divisions of English football?

2. When was that?

 

[Reading Rebel]

8 hours ago, Mattc11 said:

Of course we all make mistakes,  for me this was a planned decision and one I heavily disagree with, you can't allow a goalkeeper to take a penalty in that situation,  we could have easily have been 2 nil down within 15 secs of the penalty been missed instead Warren ( I believe) has had to go flying in to stop a counter attack cause our keeper is no where near the goal we should be defending! You do the simple things first in football and for me we didn't do this. 

It's all hypothetical but if Jack scored on Saturday and the season ends we reach the playoff final 0-0 with a minute to go we get a penalty Jack takes it and misses the other team go down the other end and score, what would be the reaction then? 

Just because Weymouth may be the last game for some time I don't think tactically the correct decision was made..... in my opinion. 

You've now put your point across quite well without the use of derogatory and unnecessary words. 

[Reading Rebel]

4 hours ago, codpiece said:

Is there any truth as someone pointed out on Twitter that these fans were from Barnet whose game at Yeovil was postponed?I’d be surprised if they were regular rebel.

A Slough supporter has put on Twitter that they are known so doubt it was Barnet fans.