Hampton/ Francis Armartey

[GlenSTFC]

1 hour ago, 3spirit said:

I think they have one of their main strikers out injured at the moment and yesterday gave a debut to Jefferson Louis, so it's recognisable that they have a problem up front but if I was Gary McCann, I wouldn't just be looking up front, as I thought they had a couple of players in midfield that could easily be replaced with better but not necessarily dearer players. Hampton,though, are hamstrung with money issues,so Gary is having to wheel and deal to get a competent side together. I don't think he's far from getting that but will need to make a few tweaks to his personnel.

The Hampton fans seem to be getting restless and don't seem to be very tolerant to the problem Gary is having and some seem to think changing the manager is a better option.  I really don't see that being the solution. Think they got spoilt when Alan Dowson was there and they had the dosh.

Strange what fans want at times.Many seem totally oblivious to the fact that their club is struggling financially and expect a team of world beaters to turn out for them and to win every game. That's ludicrous in my book. I see Slough as work in progress. Hampton fans should get a touch of realism to where they are at.  

They’re probably tight on funds at present but I know they’re due a very healthy 6 figure sell on from Jamal Lowe who joined Wigan from Portsmouth recently. I’m guessing that money has either yet to filter though or they’re being cautious as they’re also having to spend a bit of cash on ground improvements to keep them at this level.

[GlenSTFC]

Not much to add to what Neil said as it we were quite sloppy but thankfully not punished and we got the 3 points which is all that matters. Again Dan and Lench impressed, hoping his injury isn’t that bad and can be available this Saturday if required. 

I think FA Cup matches allow 7 subs so that’ll be our entire squad in use and it sounds like two or three will be rested but on the bench if needed. 

[Curtis]

Will Francis & Nojus be back with us next Saturday then??

[GlenSTFC]

With 7 subs allowed it’s possible but we might feel 5 subs if sufficient and it’s more important those 2 players actually get 90 minutes elsewhere. 

[Curtis]

If they do then they will both be playing in the FA Cup 2nd Qualifying round for their loan club’s & be cup tied if we need them for any possible later rounds.

[Curtis]

Apparently the attendance was an impressive 807 yesterday...... did we have any special event on or was the upturn likely to have been due to our improved results or fans back from summer holidays?

 

[GeorgeS]

10 minutes ago, Curtis said:

If they do then they will both be playing in the FA Cup 2nd Qualifying round for their loan club’s & be cup tied if we need them for any possible later rounds.

Francis’ loan period is until October 16th, and he cannot play in any FA Cup ties for Hendon

 

[GlenSTFC]

If that’s the case then both will be with us as we only have a small squad and can’t afford to lose 2 players in (possible...) future rounds.

[GlenSTFC]

30 minutes ago, Curtis said:

Apparently the attendance was an impressive 807 yesterday...... did we have any special event on or was the upturn likely to have been due to our improved results or fans back from summer holidays?

It was only 30-40 above average so although pleasing I wouldn’t class it as impressive. Disappointed Hampton only brought around 50 considering we must be one of their closest opponents. 

[Neil Baker]

Francis is on an official months loan and not a dual reg, this means he is not available to play for us during the month, however we also stipulated he can not play in FA Cup for Hendon.

Nojus is only dual registered and will be back with us at the weekend.

[Reading Rebel]

Very disappointing away support from Hampton considering it's just over 30 minutes away.

Mind you their average home attendances are only a pitiful 447.

[HEAVY TRUCKER]

icurtis i think it has been said by neil that francis will not be available for any fa cup matches his loan club might be involved in

[REBEL MATTERS]

Well, we have had more comfortable 3-1's (well, I have watching ).

At times I could see why Hampton are where they are in the league, then at other times, they didn't look too bad on the attack.

They seemed to like getting behind us down Josh's side (who I am not knocking in the slightest). Just an observation. 

Not a lot has been said about the ref and his decision (or lack off) making. Looking at him at times, it looked like he was in a world of his own, not realising he was the final decision maker. Did they teach him what yellow / red cards are when doing his training?

[Reading Rebel]

17 minutes ago, REBEL MATTERS said:

Well, we have had more comfortable 3-1's (well, I have watching ).

At times I could see why Hampton are where they are in the league, then at other times, they didn't look too bad on the attack.

They seemed to like getting behind us down Josh's side (who I am not knocking in the slightest). Just an observation. 

Not a lot has been said about the ref and his decision (or lack off) making. Looking at him at times, it looked like he was in a world of his own, not realising he was the final decision maker. Did they teach him what yellow / red cards are when doing his training?

Agree, they were getting a lot of room down our right flank.

I'm not sure why but Josh was tucking in alongside our center backs which left space out wide which Hampton made the most of.

[Holyport Rebel]

Have to say that I agree with "Rebel Matters" when he asks about the lack of comments about Saturday's referee. I thought he was abysmal. I make that 2 awful ref's  in 2 consecutive home matches.

Whereas the Hemel ref was so bad I felt embarrassed for him. ( I mean during the game the ball was blasted high over the dead ball line between the goal post and the corner flag and he originally gave a throw in , in line with the

18 yard line ! ), last Saturday's ref to me came across as a cocky, arrogant  know  all, who is nowhere near as good as ref as he thinks he is.

I've been waiting for the highlights of Saturday's game to come out, and wanted to see a couple of the incidents that occurred in it once again.

The "taking out " of Dan in the first half was even worse than I had thought at the time, and then even after going across to the linesman for a chat about the incident thought it didn't warrant any further action !

Unbelieveable!

Unfortunately the assault that occurred in the second half ( On Wellsy wasn't it? ),wasn't in the highlights that I saw.

From memory it reminded me of that Eric Cantona Kung-Fu kick on that Crystal Palace fan back in the middle 90's.

He got banned from football for months and months for that.

Yes,I know the victim was a fan ,but to only receive a yellow card on Saturday for this "attack" was disgraceful.

If you did that on the streets you wouldn't expect to get away with it scot free.

Perhaps my memory of the incident is wrong , and it wasn't as bad as I think I remember it, but my  thoughts at the time were that for the ref to make these TWO  diabolical decisions was scandalous..

[Reading Rebel]

Early days but the quality of Refs so far hasn't been that great to say the least.

[GeorgeS]

12 minutes ago, Reading Rebel said:

Early days but the quality of Refs so far hasn't been that great to say the least.

I thought we had quite a few refs out of depth in the Southern Premier, and by getting promoted this would improve

Unfortunately, the standard at this level is even more shocking ?

[3spirit]

On 16/09/2019 at 11:02, Holyport Rebel said:

Have to say that I agree with "Rebel Matters" when he asks about the lack of comments about Saturday's referee. I thought he was abysmal. I make that 2 awful ref's  in 2 consecutive home matches.

Whereas the Hemel ref was so bad I felt embarrassed for him. ( I mean during the game the ball was blasted high over the dead ball line between the goal post and the corner flag and he originally gave a throw in , in line with the

18 yard line ! ), last Saturday's ref to me came across as a cocky, arrogant  know  all, who is nowhere near as good as ref as he thinks he is.

I've been waiting for the highlights of Saturday's game to come out, and wanted to see a couple of the incidents that occurred in it once again.

The "taking out " of Dan in the first half was even worse than I had thought at the time, and then even after going across to the linesman for a chat about the incident thought it didn't warrant any further action !

Unbelieveable!

Unfortunately the assault that occurred in the second half ( On Wellsy wasn't it? ),wasn't in the highlights that I saw.

From memory it reminded me of that Eric Cantona Kung-Fu kick on that Crystal Palace fan back in the middle 90's.

He got banned from football for months and months for that.

Yes,I know the victim was a fan ,but to only receive a yellow card on Saturday for this "attack" was disgraceful.

If you did that on the streets you wouldn't expect to get away with it scot free.

Perhaps my memory of the incident is wrong , and it wasn't as bad as I think I remember it, but my  thoughts at the time were that for the ref to make these TWO  diabolical decisions was scandalous..

On the Dan Roberts incident, it was bizarre that the linesman waved his flag like crazy to draw the attention of the foul for the referee and when the ref finally went over to the linesman, he did absolutely nothing. Makes you wonder what the linesman saw and what he actually told the ref,as it was plain odd that nothing was done.

On the George Wells incident, I thought it wasn't as bad as it looked, what I mean by this was yes, it was a clear foul and free kick, of course but I thought the Hampton player[No 8] saw the ball coming over and reacted immediately by trying the overhead kick to clear it but was in front of George Wells and hadn't seen George, as it was the spur of the moment situation. Had Tyrell Miller-Rodney[ the Hampton Player in question] had time to weigh up his options he would have naturally gone to head the ball if he saw George coming into the challenge.               Well, that's how it looked to me from where I was standing.  

While I didn't think the referee was 'anything to write home about', I was happy that he wasn't a whistle for anything and everything one, and so for the best part of the match the game flowed. I accept he won't win any prizes for his officiating if he carries on like this but I didn't think he was all bad.

Who would want to be a referee and linesman given the amount of stick and abuse they get? The rules of the game are forever changing and get more complicated by the day, and refs and linesmen get damned if they do and damned if they don't.Take last Saturday, there was a point in the game when the ref played a good advantage for Slough but because nothing came from it, some Slough fans standing near me were then claiming we should of had a free kick. You can't have it both ways!  The officiating might not be getting any better but is it any wonder, as it must be hard to find quality people to do such a job.

Edited September 18, 2019 by 3spirit

[Reading Rebel]

1 hour ago, 3spirit said:

On the Dan Roberts incident, it was bizarre that the linesman waved his flag like crazy to draw the attention of the foul for the referee and when the ref finally went over to the linesman, he did absolutely nothing. Makes you wonder what the linesman saw and what he actually told the ref,as it was plain odd that nothing was done.

On the George Wells incident, I thought it wasn't as bad as it looked, what I mean by this was yes, is it was a clear foul and free kick, of course but I thought the Hampton player[No 8] saw the ball coming over and reacted immediately by trying the overhead kick to clear it but was in front of George Wells and hadn't seen George, as it was the spur of the moment situation. Had Tyrell Miller-Rodney[ the Hampton Player in question] had time to weigh up his options he would have naturally gone to head the ball if he saw George coming into the challenge.               Well, that's how it looked to me from where I was standing.  

While I didn't think the referee was 'anything to write home about', I was happy that he wasn't a whistle for anything and everything one, and so for the best part of the match the game flowed. I accept he won't win any prizes for his officiating if he carries on like this but I didn't think he was all bad.

Who would want to be a referee and linesman given the amount of stick and abuse they get? The rules of the game are forever changing and get more complicated by the day, and refs and linesmen get damned if they do and damned if they don't.Take last Saturday, there was a point in the game when the ref played a good advantage for Slough but because nothing came from it, some Slough fans standing near me were then claiming we should of had a free kick. You can't have it both ways!  The officiating might not be getting any better but is it any wonder, as it must be hard to find quality people to do such a job.

Do you mean 'amount of stick' from players or supporters? If it's from players I have no sympathy with refs.

I've said many a time why do refs allow themselves to be surrounded by players even to the point where they back pedal whilst being surrounded.

It used to be law that only the skipper could approach the ref but that seems to have been forgotten.

Make it plain before the game that if a player/s run up to the ref to complain they will be booked and if they don't go away immediately they will get a second yellow.

Pretty simple really.

On the advantage rule it depends what happens after the ref plays the advantage. He can bring the play back if no advantage has been gained.  

[3spirit]

2 minutes ago, Reading Rebel said:

Do you mean 'amount of stick' from players or supporters? If it's from players I have no sympathy with refs.

I've said many a time why do refs allow themselves to be surrounded by players even to the point where they back pedal whilst being surrounded.

It used to be law that only the skipper could approach the ref but that seems to have been forgotten.

Make it plain before the game that if a player/s run up to the ref to complain they will be booked and if they don't go away immediately they will get a second yellow.

Pretty simple really.

On the advantage rule it depends what happens after the ref plays the advantage. He can bring the play back if no advantage has been gained.  

The ref and linesmen are seen more as 'pantomime villains' than officials by many onlookers at games. Even managers and coaches are not blameless when it comes to arguing decisions. I might be in the minority on this but I would like to see a tougher stance taken to players/managers/coaches who complain at every decision. Also totally agree, RR, about players running up to the ref and hassling them. 

I'm not expecting football to suddenly be made up of angels, as it a passionate, tense, emotion ridden game but I do think a stricter approach from officials would actually be a benefit to the correct workings of the game and would also make the game more family friendly.

I often think that most footballers wouldn't be able to play the game, if they weren't allowed to say f**k or such like at matches ! ha ha ha!       It's almost become formulaic and expected.