V Gloucester City H 2nd Feb

[GlenSTFC]

The point is our true average is 669 which is more or less the same as last season. 

[PaxtonLee]

15 hours ago, 3spirit said:

Against Hampton, Tommy Wood had a difficult introduction to Conference South football but I thought he tried hard enough to get on the ball and did manage to get involved in one goalmouth scramble near to a goalpost, and flicked on a couple of headers to no avail but apart from that, he had little support and found it hard to get a foothold in the game. How did he do last night?

 

Nothing to get excited about, pretty anonymous.

[GlenSTFC]

Probably shouldn’t comment yet as he’s not had enough minutes but... yes I was maybe expecting a bit more from Tommy as he’s not really used his physical strength as much as he should. Let’s see what the next couple of games bring...

[REBEL MATTERS]

13 hours ago, GlenSTFC said:

But Maidenhead have increased their gates 3-409% over a 10 year period which they have to be applauded for. Obviously promotions help greatly! No way would we would more than double our attendance last night had we been playing a national league game against an opponent of similar standing to Gloucester. It will take time to get regular 1,000+ home crowds.

Agreed, from memory, a good 15 years ago lets say, weren't Maidenhead getting 4-500(ish) a game?

[GlenSTFC]

Yes I too remember for many many years Maidenhead averaged in the 3-400’s. I think it’s since their current owners have come on board the club have really taken off. I see they have some big ground improvements planned too which will make them FL compliant.

[Reading Rebel]

1 hour ago, GlenSTFC said:

The point is our true average is 669 which is more or less the same as last season. 

Surely our true average, regardless of what league you're in and the teams you're playing, is what the stats are showing?

When teams get promoted they should be playing against bigger and better sides which should mean over the season average attendances will be up.

If we were promoted to the National League we would be playing bigger, better supported teams which in theory should result in our average attendances being higher.

 

[GlenSTFC]

A true average is as I’ve shown without the big/local/bank holiday fixtures where you get much larger away followings and casual fans attending.

[Reading Rebel]

15 hours ago, GlenSTFC said:

But Maidenhead have increased their gates 3-409% over a 10 year period which they have to be applauded for. Obviously promotions help greatly! No way would we would more than double our attendance last night had we been playing a national league game against an opponent of similar standing to Gloucester. It will take time to get regular 1,000+ home crowds.

Maybe not double but I'm pretty certain the gate would have been higher if we'd have been playing Aldershot, Dover, Chesterfield or Maidstone who are in a similar position to Gloucester.

You've got to look at it over the course of the season and not just the odd games.

 

[3spirit]

1 hour ago, PaxtonLee said:

 

Nothing to get excited about, pretty anonymous.

That's a pity. As Bakes alluded to in a previous interview, these loans of young players from league clubs are always a gamble. I find that because these players come from league clubs, they often think they are better than they are and there is a reluctance to put the body on the line for the new team [as it is only a loan]. It has to be said, though, it is always difficult for any new player to come into a team and perform wonders straight away, so it's always asking a lot of these young loanees. Given that Tommy has only made two sub appearances, I wouldn't be too judgemental on him yet but the trouble is for him, is that Slough need to pick up points soon, and can't afford him not to get involved, so I think his game time may be even more limited now [after the Hampton and Gloucester results].

When I first saw Dejon Noel- Williams play [Wealdstone away match], I knew we weren't going to be successful with him,as the ball landed into an open area of the pitch in the Wealdstone half and Dejon was the nearest Slough player to the ball, so he ran towards to the ball with little speed, and Manny Williams overtook him and got to the ball first ! ha ha ! [great big young strapping lad gets overtaken by the oldest bloke in the team, that said it all for me].

To be fair, against Hampton, Tommy did chase after the ball and want to get it, so's that's an improvement on last time.

Having just listened to Unders interview after the Gloucester match, sounds like we are going to have a couple of experienced players arriving soon, which after our poor run of results of late, looks to be needed.

[kirk]

On ‎13‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 00:01, Curtis said:

Here’s a statistic that might be of interest...... we have failed to win 8 matches where we have scored first, 4 have ended in draws and 4 we have lost. That is losing 20 points from winning positions, and I would be very surprised if there is a side in our league with a similar record.

In contrast when we have conceded the first goal we have only come back twice to earn something out of the match.... 1 win and 1 draw, gaining 4 points from losing positions.

I don’t know what this actually means, or why it’s happening, but it isn’t just the ups & downs of football......on a positive note though if we find a way to even partially resolve it next season then we will be challenging for a play-off spot.

Tell me why we struggle against teams lower than us.

[carols52]

12 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

That's a pity. As Bakes alluded to in a previous interview, these loans of young players from league clubs are always a gamble. I find that because these players come from league clubs, they often think they are better than they are and there is a reluctance to put the body on the line for the new team [as it is only a loan]. It has to be said, though, it is always difficult for any new player to come into a team and perform wonders straight away, so it's always asking a lot of these young loanees. Given that Tommy has only made two sub appearances, I wouldn't be too judgemental on him yet but the trouble is for him, is that Slough need to pick up points soon, and can't afford him not to get involved, so I think his game time may be even more limited now [after the Hampton and Gloucester results].

When I first saw Dejon Noel- Williams play [Wealdstone away match], I knew we weren't going to be successful with him,as the ball landed into an open area of the pitch in the Wealdstone half and Dejon was the nearest Slough player to the ball, so he ran towards to the ball with little speed, and Manny Williams overtook him and got to the ball first ! ha ha ! [great big young strapping lad gets overtaken by the oldest bloke in the team, that said it all for me].

To be fair, against Hampton, Tommy did chase after the ball and want to get it, so's that's an improvement on last time.

Having just listened to Unders interview after the Gloucester match, sounds like we are going to have a couple of experienced players arriving soon, which after our poor run of results of late, looks to be needed.

Matty Stevens always going to be a hard act to follow.

[GlenSTFC]

11 minutes ago, Reading Rebel said:

Maybe not double but I'm pretty certain the gate would have been higher if we'd have been playing Aldershot, Dover, Chesterfield or Maidstone who are in a similar position to Gloucester.

You've got to look at it over the course of the season and not just the odd games.

 

Well you can’t include Aldershot as that’ll be classed as a local derby, plus Chesterfield and Maidstone are a big clubs. Dover I’ll give ya! Happy to give the figures at the end of the season and I’ll be surprised if the actual average is not close to the true average as we have no big games at home left.

[Reading Rebel]

14 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

That's a pity. As Bakes alluded to in a previous interview, these loans of young players from league clubs are always a gamble. I find that because these players come from league clubs, they often think they are better than they are and there is a reluctance to put the body on the line for the new team [as it is only a loan]. It has to be said, though, it is always difficult for any new player to come into a team and perform wonders straight away, so it's always asking a lot of these young loanees. Given that Tommy has only made two sub appearances, I wouldn't be too judgemental on him yet but the trouble is for him, is that Slough need to pick up points soon, and can't afford him not to get involved, so I think his game time may be even more limited now [after the Hampton and Gloucester results].

When I first saw Dejon Noel- Williams play [Wealdstone away match], I knew we weren't going to be successful with him,as the ball landed into an open area of the pitch in the Wealdstone half and Dejon was the nearest Slough player to the ball, so he ran towards to the ball with little speed, and Manny Williams overtook him and got to the ball first ! ha ha ! [great big young strapping lad gets overtaken by the oldest bloke in the team, that said it all for me].

To be fair, against Hampton, Tommy did chase after the ball and want to get it, so's that's an improvement on last time.

Having just listened to Unders interview after the Gloucester match, sounds like we are going to have a couple of experienced players arriving soon, which after our poor run of results of late, looks to be needed.

I think it's just a case that some young players take time to adjust to men's football. 

[Reading Rebel]

3 minutes ago, carols52 said:

Matty Stevens always going to be a hard act to follow.

Matty Stevens did have previous experience at Kettering and his game is all about graft and putting himself about which is always appreciated by supporters.

[Reading Rebel]

13 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

Well you can’t include Aldershot as that’ll be classed as a local derby, plus Chesterfield and Maidstone are a big clubs. Dover I’ll give ya! Happy to give the figures at the end of the season and I’ll be surprised if the actual average is not close to the true average as we have no big games at home left.

Glennie can you work out what was our true average was for last season taking out the big clubs, local derbies, bank holiday's  

[3spirit]

19 minutes ago, carols52 said:

Matty Stevens always going to be a hard act to follow.

With Matty Stevens he had the advantage of playing for a non league club in Kettering for a season.

Personally, I prefer loans from non-league clubs, as you have the chance of signing the player if he does well for you, and with non-league players they know what the task is all about, plus non-league players, especially from a lower division, want to prove themselves.

Edited February 14, 2019 by 3spirit

[Reading Rebel]

24 minutes ago, kirk said:

Tell me why we struggle against teams lower than us.

You mean like a lot of teams from the premiership downwards?

It's called football.

[Reading Rebel]

5 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

With Matty Stevens he had the advantage of playing for a non league club in Kettering for a season.

Personally, I prefer loans from non-league clubs, as you have the chance of signing the player if he does well for you, and with non-league players they know what the task is all about, plus non-league players, especially from a lower division, want to prove themselves.

Surely these young inexperienced loan players from league clubs are under the spotlight and should want to prove themselves?

As per Matty Stevens who got called back early because he impressed his employers.

Edited February 14, 2019 by Reading Rebel

[3spirit]

18 minutes ago, Reading Rebel said:

I think it's just a case that some young players take time to adjust to men's football. 

Of course but when a club brings a player in on loan, it's often because the team are struggling and need a pick me up of sorts.

In reality, the team need young players who are chomping at the bit to improve on their game and willing to learn fast at their new club but unfortunately that rarely happens, so most of these types of loans turn out to be damp squibs and fail to ignite anything but on the very odd occasion, a team can get lucky, with this type of thing.  

[3spirit]

35 minutes ago, Reading Rebel said:

Surely these young inexperienced loan players from league clubs are under the spotlight and should want to prove themselves?

As per Matty Stevens who got called back early because he impressed his employers.

Trouble is, these young players go to league football clubs and think they have made it, before they have. So when they come to a non league club, they often think they are Bertie Big Boll**ks and that the non league club are lucky to have them. When in fact there are loads of better players around, than they are, playing non league football week in/week out, who for whatever reason, have missed the opportunity to go higher.

Rather than feel honoured that a non league club wants them, they think they are doing the non league club a big favour.

If I was a manager at a football club, before signing a young player on loan [or any player come to that], I would ask questions on what type of personality they have/background info, beforehand, as well as about football ability, as this can be very important, when finding the right player for the team.

Edited February 14, 2019 by 3spirit