Scott Harris

[staines_rebel_Jr]

Scott is not an out and out goal scorer but he does play an important role in getting the team goals. I think everyone would agree that one of his best attributes is his strength which allows him to hold up the ball and bring others into the game further up the pitch. He is good in the air but personally I don't think he is as good as Charlie Mpi this season and looking back to previous "target men" I don't think he is as good as Sean Sonner (at winning headers only) who despite being shorter and no where near as strong as Scott was able to out jump anyone to win a header. I also think Ian Hodges was a much better target man than Scott Harris is considering they have similar builds. However because of his strength and that he does play as a target man when needed he often occupies the defenders and whenever we counter attack or push forward the defenders always have one eye on him which allows the second striker to go unnoticed and the often find themselves free. Next game we play look on our counter attacks and you will always see at least on of the centre backs try to get tight on Scott even if the ball doesn't go to him, then look at our other striker and most of the time you will see they have more space.

 

Something else Scott brings is his understanding with his brother Warren. When they are at their best they combine brilliantly and can be almost unstoppable. Very few of our players have the same understanding between them as Scott and Warren.

 

 

Out of the strikers we have had this season would he be my first choice, no. That does not mean that he can't offer something useful and shouldn't play at all.

 

 

I was looking at the games to goals record of our strikers since I have been watching (from about 02/03). Makes interesting reading.

 

Games to goals (how many games they play per goal) only included players who have played minimum of 1 "season" (approx 25+ games)

 

1 - Ed Smith - 1.57

2 - Tony Boot - 1.59

3 - Danny Burnell - 1.76

4 - Ian Hodges - 1.86

5 - Elliott Buchanan - 1.92

6 - Mark West - 2.10

7 - Yashwa Romeo - 2.33

8 - SCOTT HARRIS - 2.51

9 - Matthew Platt - 2.59

10 - Sammy Winston - 2.88*

11 - Sean Sonner - 3.2

12 - Charlie Mpi - 3.4**

 

* Sammy Winston didn't score in his first 22 matches, If these matches were ignored he would go to a goal every 2 games.

** Charlie Mpi only scored 1 goal in his first 22 matches in his first season mainly due to being a sub for the last 5 mins of games. his record for this season though is a goal every 2.07 matches

 

[Sir Rebel1965]

Putman makes the list but on limited games at 41 starts, 13 goals ratio= 3.15

[staines_rebel_Jr]

Was looking at STRIKERS. Putman has been player at LM / LW.

 

learn to read old man  

[HorshamRebel]

You might want to have a look at the official website SR-J, at the player list, then have a go at Tom for setting the Keeper, Defender, Midfield, STRIKERS up incorrectly then

[Sir Rebel1965]

Thanks Gary, however Putman has been playing wide as when Mpi and Smith were in the middle the wide position suited the team best.

 

There was talk behind the goal yesterday if Putman should play more central, and if Stonehouse were to return then this would allow that, with Jay pushing up on the left.

 

However I think we need a big brick sh*thouse forward up front to deal with the monster defenders most teams at this level have - how tall were the 5&6 yesterday?

[Reading Rebel]

If we play the right balls to our smaller strikers, as per yesterday, it really doesn't matter how tall the oppo center backs are.

 

I thought the way we played the tall 5&6 yesterday made them look quite ordinary.

[3spirit]

If we play the right balls to our smaller strikers, as per yesterday, it really doesn't matter how tall the oppo center backs are.

 

I thought the way we played the tall 5&6 yesterday made them look quite ordinary.

 

........but we didn't score !

[3spirit]

Scott is not an out and out goal scorer but he does play an important role in getting the team goals. I think everyone would agree that one of his best attributes is his strength which allows him to hold up the ball and bring others into the game further up the pitch. He is good in the air but personally I don't think he is as good as Charlie Mpi this season and looking back to previous "target men" I don't think he is as good as Sean Sonner (at winning headers only) who despite being shorter and no where near as strong as Scott was able to out jump anyone to win a header. I also think Ian Hodges was a much better target man than Scott Harris is considering they have similar builds. However because of his strength and that he does play as a target man when needed he often occupies the defenders and whenever we counter attack or push forward the defenders always have one eye on him which allows the second striker to go unnoticed and the often find themselves free. Next game we play look on our counter attacks and you will always see at least on of the centre backs try to get tight on Scott even if the ball doesn't go to him, then look at our other striker and most of the time you will see they have more space.

 

Something else Scott brings is his understanding with his brother Warren. When they are at their best they combine brilliantly and can be almost unstoppable. Very few of our players have the same understanding between them as Scott and Warren.

 

 

Out of the strikers we have had this season would he be my first choice, no. That does not mean that he can't offer something useful and shouldn't play at all.

 

 

I was looking at the games to goals record of our strikers since I have been watching (from about 02/03). Makes interesting reading.

 

Games to goals (how many games they play per goal) only included players who have played minimum of 1 "season" (approx 25+ games)

 

1 - Ed Smith - 1.57

2 - Tony Boot - 1.59

3 - Danny Burnell - 1.76

4 - Ian Hodges - 1.86

5 - Elliott Buchanan - 1.92

6 - Mark West - 2.10

7 - Yashwa Romeo - 2.33

8 - SCOTT HARRIS - 2.51

9 - Matthew Platt - 2.59

10 - Sammy Winston - 2.88*

11 - Sean Sonner - 3.2

12 - Charlie Mpi - 3.4**

 

* Sammy Winston didn't score in his first 22 matches, If these matches were ignored he would go to a goal every 2 games.

** Charlie Mpi only scored 1 goal in his first 22 matches in his first season mainly due to being a sub for the last 5 mins of games. his record for this season though is a goal every 2.07 matches

 

I'd take Mark West and Ian Hodges in their prime from that list as my first two strikers !

 

Unfortunately Mark West was at his best in a Wycombe Wanderers shirt and Ian Hodges was also very good at Hayes before he ever got to us.

[Reading Rebel]

........but we didn't score !

 

 

It was just one of those days.

 

On another day we would have scored 3 or 4!

[SloughFlyer]

I'm afraid that if we want to be play off contenders for next season, Scott Harris can not be anything higher than a #4 striker in our side. He doesn't score enough goals and doesn't challenge defenders well enough to be a realistic threat as he isn't strong enough in the air and isn't quick enough to get behind players.

 

Statistics are all great and good depending on what you want to achieve / prove but the simple question I'd ask is when did Scott last score a league goal? Once you have looked at that, you'll see why I say what I do as if we want to be competing at the top end of the league, he isn't good enough.

 

I think there is a place for him in a 20 or so man squad running 4 strikers and looking to achieve a play off push along with maybe a few good cup runs but if he is any higher in the list of strikers than that it's an issue.

[Jon Underwood]

I'm afraid that if we want to be play off contenders for next season, Scott Harris can not be anything higher than a #4 striker in our side. He doesn't score enough goals and doesn't challenge defenders well enough to be a realistic threat as he isn't strong enough in the air and isn't quick enough to get behind players.

 

Statistics are all great and good depending on what you want to achieve / prove but the simple question I'd ask is when did Scott last score a league goal? Once you have looked at that, you'll see why I say what I do as if we want to be competing at the top end of the league, he isn't good enough.

 

I think there is a place for him in a 20 or so man squad running 4 strikers and looking to achieve a play off push along with maybe a few good cup runs but if he is any higher in the list of strikers than that it's an issue.

Doesn't challenge players enough?

 

You obviously weren't at St Neots on Saturday where he absolutely bullied two 6 ft 5 centre backs!

 

Spoke to a very experienced big strong centre half from our league over the weekend who said he hates playing against Slough purely due to his tough it is to play against Scott Harris.

 

I can think of at least 4 opposing managers from our league this season who have said to Bakes or I how highly they rate him and how difficult it is to play against him.

 

Not knocking your view SF, just offering mine and that of respected players and managers in our league who, like myself, disagree with you on that specific point.

[Reading Rebel]

I'm afraid that if we want to be play off contenders for next season, Scott Harris can not be anything higher than a #4 striker in our side. He doesn't score enough goals and doesn't challenge defenders well enough to be a realistic threat as he isn't strong enough in the air and isn't quick enough to get behind players.

 

Statistics are all great and good depending on what you want to achieve / prove but the simple question I'd ask is when did Scott last score a league goal? Once you have looked at that, you'll see why I say what I do as if we want to be competing at the top end of the league, he isn't good enough.

 

I think there is a place for him in a 20 or so man squad running 4 strikers and looking to achieve a play off push along with maybe a few good cup runs but if he is any higher in the list of strikers than that it's an issue.

 

 

Strange SloughFlyer that you've now came out with the same viewpoint as Sloughboy?

 

I'm afraid you cannot be watching the same games as the vast majority, if not all other Slough supporters. 

 

Your opinion that Scott Harris should be fourth striker is one thing but saying he doesn't challenge players well enough and isn't strong enough in the air is just plain daft to the point where I think you must be just trying to wind people up.

Edited March 14, 2016 by Reading Rebel

[Reading Rebel]

I'm afraid that if we want to be play off contenders for next season, Scott Harris can not be anything higher than a #4 striker in our side. He doesn't score enough goals and doesn't challenge defenders well enough to be a realistic threat as he isn't strong enough in the air and isn't quick enough to get behind players.

 

Statistics are all great and good depending on what you want to achieve / prove but the simple question I'd ask is when did Scott last score a league goal? Once you have looked at that, you'll see why I say what I do as if we want to be competing at the top end of the league, he isn't good enough.

 

I think there is a place for him in a 20 or so man squad running 4 strikers and looking to achieve a play off push along with maybe a few good cup runs but if he is any higher in the list of strikers than that it's an issue.

 

 

Doesn't score enough goals, doesn't challenge players well enough, isn't strong enough in the air and isn't quick enough to get behind players.

 

Can I ask, in your opinion, what you think Hatchets strengths are to be in the squad as our fourth striker?

[HorshamRebel]

It was really good of Ed Smith to say what he did on Twitter the other day

 

For those not on Twitter, this is a copy and paste of what he said ...

 

"Fans don't see. A lot of my goals were down to him. Top player and lad @scottharris09. I just want to throw that out there as not on forum"

[C'est la vie]

It was really good of Ed Smith to say what he did on Twitter the other day

 

For those not on Twitter, this is a copy and paste of what he said ...

 

"Fans don't see. A lot of my goals were down to him. Top player and lad @scottharris09. I just want to throw that out there as not on forum"

Perhaps Scott gave him 20 quid to say it!! Lol

[Curtis]

HR,

 

It's nice of Ed Smith to have said that, but Ed has scored 9 goals this season and from what I can see Scott Harris was not on the pitch with him when he scored any of them..... please let me know if I am wrong.

 

(I'm not criticising Scott or Ed.... just stating what I believe is a fact about the current season)

[RebelJoe1971]

9 out of 95 goals? Just stating a fact.

[Sir Rebel1965]

100% of statistics are just numbers, more men play men's football than women, 73% of refs don't know who their father is, the queens poo does not smell, you should not trust anyone who keeps pigs-(Snatch), Steve Bateman does not have a plan "B", Shakespeare invented the words "assassination" and "bump", No piece of paper can be folded in half more than 7 times, Venus is the only planet that rotates clockwise, a cat has 32 muscles in each ear,Polar bears are always left handed, no word in the English language rhymes with orange, month, silver or purple.

 

Just stating a few facts - some more useful/valid than others!

[Curtis]

9 out of 95 goals? Just stating a fact.

 

Stats for anyone that might be interested.

 

Ed Smith's 95 goals:-

 

2012/3 33 goals (Scott Harris hadn't signed for Slough)

2013/4 32 goals (Scott was on the pitch when Smith scored 6 of these.... Dyer was Smith's main partner scoring 27 goals)

2014/5 21 goals (Scott was on the pitch when Smith scored 14 of these.... and had a good season scoring 16 goals)

2015/6 9 goals (none when Scott was on the pitch)

 

So, last season 'a lot' of Ed Smith's goals came when Scott Harris was on the pitch with him (14 of his 21), and overall 20 of Ed Smith's 95 goals (62 goals in the last three seasons) came when Scott Harris was on the pitch with him.

[3spirit]

Good post,Curtis[or is it Mark? Not been introduced,I prefer christian names when appropriate].

 

Very insightful reading.