Ed Smith

[Jon Underwood]

Have to say I am getting pretty fed up of some of the comments on here.

 

This forum was started in relation to a player who was released due to completely unacceptable behaviour yet certain individuals want to use it to criticise a lad who has played over 100 games for your club and showed exemplary attitude throughout.

 

His goal record stands up against the majority of strikers at this level (despite the fact he is not an 'out and out goalscorer') and he brings so much more than that. Yesterday he was fantastic and he actually ended up saving us a point by bravely throwing himself head first in our box to block a shot on goal. On Tuesday he put his body on the line again playing out of position at centre back to help his team mates.

 

Guy has just mentioned Drew Roberts at St Neots who is much heralded as a goalscorer at this level and someone who you would all love at Slough no doubt. His goal record this season is 2 in league 12 games and he will be earning 2/3 times what Scott is earning.

 

Have no issue with people voicing an opinion but to use this particular thread to criticise an honest, hardworking, genuine, team player like Scott has seriously annoyed me.

 

Rant over.

[3spirit]

If the goal wasn't disallowed and we win 1-0.. The fact of the matter is Scott Harris would have got a lot of plaudits .. Even though he didn't score .. You can't deny he didn't play well, That's what's amusing ... Countless times he simply outmuscled their two 6ft4 centre backs out the way to allow the ball to run through to the other centre forward to get a chance on goal or to play the ball out wide to create a cross for someone to get on the end of.. If we score one and win he wouldn't get the criticism .. Drew Roberts is meant to be a top striker in this league supposedly .. I know who I would of rather had on that pitch yesterday.. I think a lot of people are giving hatchet a disservice in their comments .. All entitled to opinion but I think the bigger picture is overlooked .. You won't find many teams where both strikers are able to get 20/30 goals .. You will find in every striking partnership .. The one who gets the goals more often than not owes a lot of thanks to the person he is playing along side

 

A good point, Guy but all supporters will view the games in a different way to how you players view it, as will the managers.

 

I don't believe anyone is saying anything out of order. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about all things Slough Town FC, that's what a football forum is about !

 

If you ask me, would I keep Hatchet for next season the answer would be YES. Would he be in my first 11, the answer would be NO but that is not being detrimental to what Scott offers to the team.

As I've already said he's a valuable member of the squad.  

[GH4]

No one has said anything out of order agreed but I think a lot of things are overlooked.

 

And it is all opinions .. It's what makes the game what it is. We all have them and it creates a debate .. I say something which others may not have picked up and it makes the picture better .. And I see how other people may see it.

 

There's no animosity in people voicing their opinions it's healthy

[Hammer_rebel]

Any one wanna mention that Scott was injured for a great part of his time with us and since coming back has had a new baby and a lot of work on! AND he still steps up when we need him! I don't come on this forum any more due to the fact of people's opinion is just plain rude and un constructive if I didn't know most of u from games and was looking from the outside I wouldn't like what I see! Maybe start a "never happy" forum

[Hammer_rebel]

AND I picked up the bit about "unacceptable behaviour" I can't be dealing with another player who shows us up not matter how much I like them!

[Mr Rebel]

Have to say I am getting pretty fed up of some of the comments on here.

 

This forum was started in relation to a player who was released due to completely unacceptable behaviour yet certain individuals want to use it to criticise a lad who has played over 100 games for your club and showed exemplary attitude throughout.

 

His goal record stands up against the majority of strikers at this level (despite the fact he is not an 'out and out goalscorer') and he brings so much more than that. Yesterday he was fantastic and he actually ended up saving us a point by bravely throwing himself head first in our box to block a shot on goal. On Tuesday he put his body on the line again playing out of position at centre back to help his team mates.

 

Guy has just mentioned Drew Roberts at St Neots who is much heralded as a goalscorer at this level and someone who you would all love at Slough no doubt. His goal record this season is 2 in league 12 games and he will be earning 2/3 times what Scott is earning.

 

Have no issue with people voicing an opinion but to use this particular thread to criticise an honest, hardworking, genuine, team player like Scott has seriously annoyed me.

 

Rant over.

A shame that a manager and a player have to post like this to defend a good honest team player but well said

[3spirit]

Have to say I am getting pretty fed up of some of the comments on here.

 

This forum was started in relation to a player who was released due to completely unacceptable behaviour yet certain individuals want to use it to criticise a lad who has played over 100 games for your club and showed exemplary attitude throughout.

 

His goal record stands up against the majority of strikers at this level (despite the fact he is not an 'out and out goalscorer') and he brings so much more than that. Yesterday he was fantastic and he actually ended up saving us a point by bravely throwing himself head first in our box to block a shot on goal. On Tuesday he put his body on the line again playing out of position at centre back to help his team mates.

 

Guy has just mentioned Drew Roberts at St Neots who is much heralded as a goalscorer at this level and someone who you would all love at Slough no doubt. His goal record this season is 2 in league 12 games and he will be earning 2/3 times what Scott is earning.

 

Have no issue with people voicing an opinion but to use this particular thread to criticise an honest, hardworking, genuine, team player like Scott has seriously annoyed me.

 

Rant over.

 

Calm down, dear ! ha ha !

 

Not looking to ar*se lick, Jon but understand your annoyance, when you've put it in those terms but no one's ever going to see eye to eye on everything that your team is doing, regardless.

 

Just believe we have to act as adults, don't we?  

[Reading Rebel]

Any one wanna mention that Scott was injured for a great part of his time with us and since coming back has had a new baby and a lot of work on! AND he still steps up when we need him! I don't come on this forum any more due to the fact of people's opinion is just plain rude and un constructive if I didn't know most of u from games and was looking from the outside I wouldn't like what I see! Maybe start a "never happy" forum

 

 

Some good points you've made there HR which I think some people have forgotton about.

[Sloughboy]

If someone comes on here and is abusive that's fair enough! Jon - if you don't like what gets said then don't read it? We are entitled to our views if done in a constructive way! The over defensive nature is not right! People have views, mine differs from others but that's what a forum is about? If not abusive!

 

With all due respect how can you come on hear and hammer people for having a view and an opinion that differs from yours! You are the manager and make the decisions rightly or wrongly and supporters debate it! What's wrong with that!

 

'Hatchett' is good enough for what we are now, that's a fact! My point is he isn't good enough to hang out hat on to get better and where we all want! Happy to be proven wrong, doubtful tho.

[Jon Underwood]

If someone comes on here and is abusive that's fair enough! Jon - if you don't like what gets said then don't read it? We are entitled to our views if done in a constructive way! The over defensive nature is not right! People have views, mine differs from others but that's what a forum is about? If not abusive!

 

With all due respect how can you come on hear and hammer people for having a view and an opinion that differs from yours! You are the manager and make the decisions rightly or wrongly and supporters debate it! What's wrong with that!

 

'Hatchett' is good enough for what we are now, that's a fact! My point is he isn't good enough to hang out hat on to get better and where we all want! Happy to be proven wrong, doubtful tho.

Pretty sure I just put my view across, just like you did. Where's the problem?

[Neil Baker]

Sloughboy i think the point of Unders message was mainly to say the thread has turned from a discussion about Eddie and him leaving, to all of a sudden a thread about Scott Harris, and in some quarters hammering him for what you and a few others perceive to be his shortcomings...

 

Totally understand what you are saying, and as you say that is your view... however in light of what has happened this week, i don't think this thread was appropriate for the conversation, which effectively you started by stating he was not good enough to lead the line.

Edited March 13, 2016 by Neil Baker

[Banny]

If someone comes on here and is abusive that's fair enough! Jon - if you don't like what gets said then don't read it? We are entitled to our views if done in a constructive way! The over defensive nature is not right! People have views, mine differs from others but that's what a forum is about? If not abusive!

 

With all due respect how can you come on hear and hammer people for having a view and an opinion that differs from yours! You are the manager and make the decisions rightly or wrongly and supporters debate it! What's wrong with that!

 

'Hatchett' is good enough for what we are now, that's a fact! My point is he isn't good enough to hang out hat on to get better and where we all want! Happy to be proven wrong, doubtful tho.

Slough Boy, you have made your point. You`re entitled to be wrong. Now please be quiet, you`re beginning to get like another old NEG HEAD.

[Mr Rebel]

Looking at league top scorers Scott Harris is only a goal or 2 short of being on the entire league top scorers list when playing mostly as backup striker most of the season

 

Interesting how some players have bigger reputation and is assumed they score lot of goals but not many have huge amount of goals really.

 

Not a dig at anyone or what people have said but just shows goalscorers are hard to come by and that even splashing the cash on so called guaranteed goals it doesnt necessarily bring you that

[A Rebel and a Saint]

I would imagine that if Scott Harris wasn't doing what he was doing, all the holding up, bullying the central defenders and so on, there would also be plenty of the same people moaning on here about how we don't keep the ball up front.

As Ed Smith said on twitter, Scott Harris is responsible for a lot of goals in our team when he plays. Sean Sonner was a fans favourite when he was in the squad, but was he really a great goalscorer? No.

Some of the comments are very unfair and it seems that this thread has just been hijacked and taken off topic so people can moan about someone else. It's terrible that it's got so bad that Guy, Jon and Neil (and Ed on Twitter) have had to come on to defend one of the hardest working players in our squad.

[Reading Rebel]

You're entitled to your opinion Sloughboy but for me it's the manner in which you've put your opinion across that has rightly got peoples backs up.

 

Hatchets name was mentioned once and you jumped on him like a ton of bricks with your negative comment.

 

You're entitled to that view but when you choose to only pick on the negatives with hardly a mention of anything positive it comes across as you've taken the opportunity to have a snipe at a player rather than putting across a considered and unbiased opinion.

[Sir Rebel1965]

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Edited March 13, 2016 by Rebel1965

[Sloughboy]

Nonsense! Everything I said was constructive and backed up! Unders done his usual snipe at negatives that he doesn't agree with! Yes we all love the managers having their view but they don't like negative comment because stuff I am saying is saying they don't like managing Maverick match winning type players, they love a workhorse and players who won't give any issue off the pitch!

 

Nothing in my post was horrible or whatever, merely pointing out an opinion, shock been shot down!

 

No problem, won't say anymore, stay in rose tinted land.

[HorshamRebel]

Hatchet is nowhere near good enough to lead the line of a top half or dare I say it play off chaser in this league. Underrated or not anyone who says that is deluding themselves. No chance any team in the play of mix would have him in their sides...

 

Makes losing Ed more disappointing but Hatchett will get a game now at least to show everyone the unrivalled faith the managers are in him!

 

 

Nonsense! Everything I said was constructive and backed up! Unders done his usual snipe at negatives that he doesn't agree with! Yes we all love the managers having their view but they don't like negative comment because stuff I am saying is saying they don't like managing Maverick match winning type players, they love a workhorse and players who won't give any issue off the pitch!

 

Nothing in my post was horrible or whatever, merely pointing out an opinion, shock been shot down!

 

No problem, won't say anymore, stay in rose tinted land.

 

 

SB, can you please explain how the words in red from your previous quote are constructive and backed up, then if that is the case as you stated in the blue comments later.

 

Yes these are your own views, and you are indeed free to say them, but I'm interested in how you think those specific words you said are constructive, especially as you have said that EVERYTHING you have said is constructive.

Edited March 13, 2016 by HorshamRebel

[David Carpenter]

There is no problem with people claiming the right to state an opinion but as with all things that right needs to be balanced with responsibility. I stated on a thread regarding the ground development: "It perhaps would be better if opinions were sometimes based on fact rather than conjecture".  People have expressed their opinions against SB opinions and SB's reaction is to tell all those people to stay in their "rose tinted land".  It's fine having an opinion but it is better still if you can sometimes accept that perhaps that your  opinion is not accepted by others who have equal rights to their opinions. My opinion for what it is worth is your reference to "rose tinted land" is laughable. 

[Sloughboy]

Constructive maybe not in them words, opinion that no team in the play off mix (which we all want) would have him in their team!

 

Anyway, I will bow out of discussion as no point, time will tell won't it who is right, if/when Harris leads us to play offs or not and if/when he moves on who he signs for next. Let's hope he leads us to promotion and I have egg on face, until then I am neither tight or wrong.