staines_rebel_Jr Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 The commentary from the Frome match earlier today has been blocked and cant be played. UMG_UK have claimed copyright violations on the video. UMG_UK have claimed the Beatles music being played in the background over the tannoy is breach of copyright. I think we have already had warnings from YouTube about some of the music which can be heard over the background coming from the tannoys in the stadium. We might need to be careful as if the Rebels Radio gets 3 strikes it will be blocked completely. Whoever picks the music to be played before matches can you please make sure you don't use any Beatles songs or we will have more problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton on holiday Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 That is [****!!****]ing ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenSTFC Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 It certainly is, so wouldn't that mean we couldn't play any music then as any of them could pipe up and complain we're not paying them royalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal316 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 You need to talk to the PRS who deal with then licensing for playing music in public places. I think they also cover music to be used in filming and radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staines_rebel_Jr Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 I'm fairly sure we have set the account not to make money so we should be ok most of the time. It seems that UMG_UK who seem to currently own the rights to the Beatles music have aggressively reported anyone on YouTube who have used any Beatles music. It doesn't seem like other record labels are doing so though. One solution would be to only play non copyrighted music so we are guaranteed not to have problems but we can't control what music is played at away games like yesterday at Frome. To be honest I think as long as we don't play Beatles we will probably be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenSTFC Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Have they got some poor sod viewing every YouTube video checking what music can/can't play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staines_rebel_Jr Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Mal316 YouTube already have a deal with PRS, not quite sure what it covers. YouTube have something called Content ID which automatically scans videos to find any copyrighted material and that is how music gets picked up and I'm not sure you can be "protected" from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorshamRebel Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Edit the Beatles bit out, and republish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staines_rebel_Jr Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Horsham it gets taken directly from the live feed and I'm not sure it actually gets saved onto the computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorshamRebel Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 If that's the case, that's a pity. Can Aidan still see it on YouTube as the author (or whoever owns it), as you can download videos you own, then reload it once edited Possible other solutions 1. Aidan to say that we are having a couple of minutes deadish time if a Beatles song comes on. 2. Go back to pre recorded messages at half time 3. Go back to dead time at half time 4. Obtain covered microphones (Not a fiscal solution, as they are quite expensive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelade Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Not just Beatles songs, there was one at Dorchester so this is theory strike 2. We had previous communication after Dorchester and MYFC were looking into it but believe they said there was not a lot they could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Carpenter Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Perhaps only broadcast when the game is on. This is typical of big business taking over our lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cameraman Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Only just seen this. I have the same problem whenever I film Cup Finals, especially for certain Youth Leagues where they blare out 'Simply The Best' and 'We Are The Champions' over the P.A. during the Cup/Trophy presentations. Put that on You Tube and it gets blocked...and it's 'one strike'. Cup Final highlights are not the same without being able to see the Captain lifting the Cup at the end ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorshamRebel Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 At least with filming you get the chance to edit before it goes on, so you can alter the audio at the critical points, unlike the live one time recording of the radio. But definitely keeps people on their toes. It must be a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cameraman Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 At least with filming you get the chance to edit before it goes on, so you can alter the audio at the critical points Not really, because there is somebody announcing the winners on the P.A. at the same time as the crowd are cheering and the music is blaring out. You Tube still treats the music as a copyright infringement even with other noises going on. It just doesn't look right on the highlights when you take all three (P.A./crowd/music) out and dub non-copyright music (or just silence !) on the footage instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staines_rebel_Jr Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 Not really, because there is somebody announcing the winners on the P.A. at the same time as the crowd are cheering and the music is blaring out. You Tube still treats the music as a copyright infringement even with other noises going on. It just doesn't look right on the highlights when you take all three (P.A./crowd/music) out and dub non-copyright music (or just silence !) on the footage instead. The only way you can do it is by removing all sound and adding your own commentary over the footage, similar to what a youtuber called "Smiv" does. He commentates his Sunday league team and recently covered the Wealdstone vs Hayes and Yeading match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorshamRebel Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Even so, it is still possible to do, even if it isn't preferable, as it is post record, whereas radio is on record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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