vs Poole

[Rother]

They're shaping up a lot better than Mick Woodham ! lol !

 

That's all we need, Rother, a Windsor fan stirring the pot.

 

I suggest you worry about how your club is 'shaping up' at Step 5 ! 

You think so?

 

As one of the Teams in the CCL not to have a playing budget I think finishing Top 6 in the last 3 seasons and winning back to back Berks and Bucks Senior Trophies suggests Mick Woodham is doing ok.

 

The lower level jibe is water off a duck's back mate, it's all non league football and part of one big family as far as I'm concerned.

[GlenSTFC]

Can't see how Windsor will ever get promoted without some sort of budget (who knows maybe there is one but the fans are told otherwise

[3spirit]

You think so?

 

As one of the Teams in the CCL not to have a playing budget I think finishing Top 6 in the last 3 seasons and winning back to back Berks and Bucks Senior Trophies suggests Mick Woodham is doing ok.

 

The lower level jibe is water off a duck's back mate, it's all non league football and part of one big family as far as I'm concerned.

 

Rother, I don't mind you posting on our forum and it's good to get different views from the wide spectrum that is non-league football.

 

However, questioning our managers know-how, isn't anything to do with a Windsor supporter.

Just like I wouldn't come on to the Windsor forum questioning Mick Woodham's credentials, but to answer your question about our managers, they are both doing an excellent job and are a good fit for Slough Town FC.

They are both knowledgeable about the semi- pro game and have good contacts throughout the leagues. They are not frightened to take a chance on youth and have been relevantly successful so far in their managerial career and their playing days.

Of course, both are still learning about managing at Premier division level and currently are assessing the strengths and weaknesses of this season's Slough squad, to which I and most of regular Slough support trust them in their judgement.

Those that don't, seem to have unrealistic ambitions or have little idea about good man-management. 

Edited September 1, 2015 by 3spirit

[Reading Rebel]

Can't see how Windsor will ever get promoted without some sort of budget (who knows maybe there is one but the fans are told otherwise ). If by some miracle/luck they gain promotion does the club really believe they can continue with no budget as players needed for that level I'm pretty 100% certain won't play for a pat on the back! So are the Royalists happy to be stuck at step 5 forever or maybe they need to loosen the purse strings?

 

 

If I remember correctly, a lot of Windsor supporters were 'over the moon' when Windsor FC was formed and the new dawn of not paying players had arrived.

 

So on that premis I'd say they are quite happy to stay as they are and possibly never get promoted. 

[jonblack]

Rother, I don't mind you posting on our forum and it's good to get different views from the wide spectrum that is non-league football.

 

However, questioning our managers know-how, isn't anything to do with a Windsor supporter.

Just like I wouldn't come on to the Windsor forum questioning Mick Woodham's credentials, but to answer your question about our managers, they are both doing an excellent job and are a good fit for Slough Town FC.

They are both knowledgeable about the semi- pro game and have good contacts throughout the leagues. They are not frightened to take a chance on youth and have been relevantly successful so far in their managerial career and their playing days.

Of course, both are still learning about managing at Premier division level and currently are assessing the strengths and weaknesses of this season's Slough squad, to which I and most of regular Slough support trust them in their judgement.

Those that don't, seem to have unrealistic ambitions or have little idea about good man-management. 

How can you make statements like that,have you ask 200-300 people their opinions, or do you assume you know better than those that disagree with your sentiments? There has been many   a successful manager that has never played the game at a decent level !

[3spirit]

JonBlack, you seem to have some weird grudge about our managers. I haven't a clue why that is.

 

You are right I cannot speak for every supporter that watches Slough.

 

Everyone has their own opinion but what I pride myself on, is that I try to rationalise and draw a reasoned standpoint on issues that come up.

I'm sure the heathy majority, do the same and of the many fans I've spoken to, they like our current managers, unlike you.    

 

What do you want to do,run a poll? 

[Rother]

Re the various replies re Windsor... (Thanks for those.)

 

Personally speaking I do rather like the fact that we don't pay wages - if we did, it would only mean we were creating a debt to a benefactor which is the path we've already been down.

 

We spend a lot of money on the pitch and are, I think justifiably, proud of it being such an impressive surface, where everyone likes to play.

 

Most of us were delighted when the club changed direction (re playing budget) but a number are impatient to get out of the CCL and away from visiting some of the away grounds which they are somewhat disparaging towards.

 

Me? Of course I'd love to have a season where we challenge for promotion but although I'm sure it'll come one day, for the foreseeable I am happy to enjoy it for what it is.

 

As has rightly been asked - what do we do if we do get promoted?

 

I guess a budget would have to come from somewhere but where...? Unless / until the grand plans Kevin Stott introduced to the world some 4-5 years ago come back to life, I can't see how the club could come up with the £100 pw each which would presumably be required as a minimum at Step 4 to be competitive.

Edited September 1, 2015 by Rother

[GlenSTFC]

Yes what did happen to those plans Rother? Planning or money issues? You're about right in saying £100 per week per player would give you a competitive step 4 budget, so to go from nowt to around £2,000 a week is an amount to find, unless Mr Stott has deep pockets?

[jonblack]

JonBlack, you seem to have some weird grudge about our managers. I haven't a clue why that is.

 

You are right I cannot speak for every supporter that watches Slough.

 

Everyone has their own opinion but what I pride myself on, is that I try to rationalise and draw a reasoned standpoint on issues that come up.

I'm sure the heathy majority, do the same and of the many fans I've spoken to, they like our current managers, unlike you.    

 

What do you want to do,run a poll? 

See there you go again making statements with out even knowing me or I guess 200+ other supporters.As for me having a grudge what rubbish, I don't even know them! but to the annoyance of a few I like to have the opportunity to point out good and yes bad play etc etc, and when people make outlandish statements take them to task.Unfortunately people don't like the truth when it don't agree with theirs.

[Sir Rebel1965]

Just bringing this back to the point rather than worry about the micky mouse club in SL4.

 

The main concern is that I am seeing very mixed performances - 1st half of last season (up to end of Dec) we were up the top end with 35 points and dealing with teams like St newts etc.

 

We then drop off that form and only get 15 points for the rest of the season.

 

We recently had a very positive round of preseason friendly's beating teams in higher leagues on their pitches. 

 

Now we have reverted to struggling to pick up points.

 

The main core of the team has been there for all this period in time, with the usual mix of injuries, suspensions etc. that other clubs have, yet there is no obvious reason to the inconsistency.

 

I will only mention one players name and he is no-longer with the club and that is Dave Woozley who I think was the glue which held the team together and steadied the boat, since he left that influence has been missing and I think Jon and Neil are still trying to find that replacement on the pitch.

[Rother]

Yes what did happen to those plans Rother? Planning or money issues? You're about right in saying £100 per week per player would give you a competitive step 4 budget, so to go from nowt to around £2,000 a week is an amount to find, unless Mr Stott has deep pockets?

Well it could only be done with a partner and the ones that had originally expressed interest fell by the wayside when their own business situation altered drastically (I believe).

 

Kevin Stott did largely fund the 1st year when (somewhat farcically with the squad he had) Keith Scott failed to gain promotion. He then decided he did not want to go down the benefactor route again so eliminated the budget. The vision at that point was to be more of a community club with players coming through from the local leagues and the youth set up. That has to an extent been achieved but nil playing budget makes it difficult to claw our way out of the Combined Counties as there are always a few clubs each season prepared to splash the cash a bit. I don't think they keep it up year after year but as I say there's always a few....

 

So whether Stott's pockets are deep enough I wouldn't know but funding the team is not on his agenda. Maybe someone else will come in one day and chuck some money at it again. I won't hold my breath.

 

Mickey Mouse as someone suggested? Maybe. Or perhaps just a sensible outlook to preserve football in the community without anyone going broke in the process...

[3spirit]

Just bringing this back to the point rather than worry about the micky mouse club in SL4.

 

The main concern is that I am seeing very mixed performances - 1st half of last season (up to end of Dec) we were up the top end with 35 points and dealing with teams like St newts etc.

 

We then drop off that form and only get 15 points for the rest of the season.

 

We recently had a very positive round of preseason friendly's beating teams in higher leagues on their pitches. 

 

Now we have reverted to struggling to pick up points.

 

The main core of the team has been there for all this period in time, with the usual mix of injuries, suspensions etc. that other clubs have, yet there is no obvious reason to the inconsistency.

 

I will only mention one players name and he is no-longer with the club and that is Dave Woozley who I think was the glue which held the team together and steadied the boat, since he left that influence has been missing and I think Jon and Neil are still trying to find that replacement on the pitch.

 

' No obvious reason to the inconsistency'  How can you say that,Rebel1965? We've had nothing but injuries, which must count for inconsistency.

 

You have to be mindful that a successful side doesn't just happen with a magic wand.

 

You make a fair point on Dave Woozley. I agree we haven't nailed down yet, a captain that leads by example and has the respect of the players but you must remember we lost a natural successor to Wooz with the bad injury to Adam Foulser.

Adam would have fitted the role perfectly.

    

I also think you are being unfair and unreasoned when you quote the run of games statistics, as you have to judge each season, not bits of one and bits of another.

 

So far, Neil and Jon have got us promoted in their first full season and last season consolidated our position in the division. That's what we all wanted and that's what they've done.

 

Okay things haven't gone as smoothly in 7 games so far but we are still not in the relegation places, so why the panic?

This squad isn't fair off from being an entertaining good mid table team. There's bound to be a few player changes through the season to bring us to that level and to push higher.

 

So I can't really see, Rebel1965, why you think Bakes and Unders are so bad.  

[3spirit]

Well it could only be done with a partner and the ones that had originally expressed interest fell by the wayside when their own business situation altered drastically (I believe).

 

Kevin Stott did largely fund the 1st year when (somewhat farcically with the squad he had) Keith Scott failed to gain promotion. He then decided he did not want to go down the benefactor route again so eliminated the budget. The vision at that point was to be more of a community club with players coming through from the local leagues and the youth set up. That has to an extent been achieved but nil playing budget makes it difficult to claw our way out of the Combined Counties as there are always a few clubs each season prepared to splash the cash a bit. I don't think they keep it up year after year but as I say there's always a few....

 

So whether Stott's pockets are deep enough I wouldn't know but funding the team is not on his agenda. Maybe someone else will come in one day and chuck some money at it again. I won't hold my breath.

 

Mickey Mouse as someone suggested? Maybe. Or perhaps just a sensible outlook to preserve football in the community without anyone going broke in the process...

 

Rother, I admire the way Windsor have tried to do it but unfortunately due to market forces, no money will hamper any chance of being successful in the current world of non-league football.

Alas,the non-league game mirrors that of the professional game.

 

With Slough Town FC I'm led to believe that our budget is nowhere near among the best payers of the Southern Premier division but at least it seems we have a budget that makes us competitive at this level, which I for one, thank our chairman, directors and sponsors for.

 

To me that makes it even better when we turn over one of the bigger teams either in the league or a cup competition.

Nothing changes in this regard, when you are seen as the underdog, in whatever division you are in.  

Good luck for the season, Rother.

[Rother]

Cheers, and to you guys.

[Sir Rebel1965]

' No obvious reason to the inconsistency'  How can you say that,Rebel1965? We've had nothing but injuries, which must count for inconsistency.

 

You have to be mindful that a successful side doesn't just happen with a magic wand.

 

You make a fair point on Dave Woozley. I agree we haven't nailed down yet, a captain that leads by example and has the respect of the players but you must remember we lost a natural successor to Wooz with the bad injury to Adam Foulser.

Adam would have fitted the role perfectly.

    

I also think you are being unfair and unreasoned when you quote the run of games statistics, as you have to judge each season, not bits of one and bits of another.

 

So far, Neil and Jon have got us promoted in their first full season and last season consolidated our position in the division. That's what we all wanted and that's what they've done.

 

Okay things haven't gone as smoothly in 7 games so far but we are still not in the relegation places, so why the panic?

This squad isn't fair off from being an entertaining good mid table team. There's bound to be a few player changes through the season to bring us to that level and to push higher.

 

So I can't really see, Rebel1965, why you think Bakes and Unders are so bad.  

3 spirit, I have not said that "Bakes and Unders are so bad" that is your words not mine - is that what you think of Jon and Neil?

 

I am as frustrated as most fans with the underperformance of what we know that can be achieved, and was achieved in 2013 and 2014.  Injuries are part of that dip in form and all other clubs have injury issues, but as I quoted the preseason games had a mix of players which reflected the current situation and most games were won.

 

I don't have the answers and am not calling for a change of management, but there needs to be an improvement in the number of points on the table, or come Christmas with the current form, we will be in a position that will not be comfortable.

[Mark44]

Have skipped through the posts but must say I am a tad concerned about us seemingly not starting as well as we could have against sides I don't expect to be up there (apart from Poole)

 

However, I have complete faith in our managers to make it right with whatever budget they have to work with. If we finish in the top 20 I will be happy and consider it job done

[epicrebel]

3 spirit, I have not said that "Bakes and Unders are so bad" that is your words not mine - is that what you think of Jon and Neil?

 

I am as frustrated as most fans with the underperformance of what we know that can be achieved, and was achieved in 2013 and 2014.  Injuries are part of that dip in form and all other clubs have injury issues, but as I quoted the preseason games had a mix of players which reflected the current situation and most games were won.

 

I don't have the answers and am not calling for a change of management, but there needs to be an improvement in the number of points on the table, or come Christmas with the current form, we will be in a position that will not be comfortable.

This bit  7 of the injuries were picked up in the last friendly or in the season so your wrong there.

[epicrebel]

Have skipped through the posts but must say I am a tad concerned about us seemingly not starting as well as we could have against sides I don't expect to be up there (apart from Poole)

 

However, I have complete faith in our managers to make it right with whatever budget they have to work with. If we finish in the top 20 I will be happy and consider it job done

Read my post page 3       #56  might help you.

[3spirit]

3 spirit, I have not said that "Bakes and Unders are so bad" that is your words not mine - is that what you think of Jon and Neil?

 

I am as frustrated as most fans with the underperformance of what we know that can be achieved, and was achieved in 2013 and 2014.  Injuries are part of that dip in form and all other clubs have injury issues, but as I quoted the preseason games had a mix of players which reflected the current situation and most games were won.

 

I don't have the answers and am not calling for a change of management, but there needs to be an improvement in the number of points on the table, or come Christmas with the current form, we will be in a position that will not be comfortable.

 

Rebel1965,if you had read any of my posts, you would know I have every faith in our current managers. As I've said previously, they are the best managers we've had for ages.

 

To me, pre-season games mean diddly-squat, when it comes to the proper league season.

 

Even the best laid plans in football management don't always run smooth, we all know that, and the managers will be well aware that their needs to be an improvement but I can't see why, Rebel1965, you are so concerned, as we've only

played 7 league games and have 39 to go ! 

 

We both know we are not going for the title this season, and getting in the top 8 is a very tall order but I think with a bit of tweeking here and there, we are not far off from being a good steady, exciting to team to watch in this division, who will be no push over but we've got to give our managers time to get it right and we have to be patient.

 

Don't get me wrong we all like a moan when our performances are crap ! I know I do, but we are miles away from the garbage of assorted teams we had before Steve Bateman helped steady our ship.

Think people need to remember that.  

 

This team is at Step 3, not hovering at the bottom of Step 4, or at Step 5,where some of our previous dross management appointments could have taken us.

So let's give Bakes and Unders time to get it right. 

 

[staines_rebel_Jr]

This bit  7 of the injuries were picked up in the last friendly or in the season so your wrong there.

 

So you are saying there were no injuries or players missing in the friendlies ?????

 

 

You might recall one friendly had to be cancelled as we didn't have enough fit players !!!!!!!!!