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Hi Effemsel.

 

Nothing personal old chap but can we take you as a case in point?

 

Are you saying that a). you are a student, studying at University, B). you are 'reading'/'studying'/'learning' how to be a Librarian, c). this is a 3 year course, and d). the Lunatic pays you £8,500 a year [of tax-payers money, of course] because 'the country under New Labour is short of Librarians'?

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Hi GHA.

 

No disrespect intended, but perhaps Libro is 'reading' English Literature and the Lunatic has paid him £8,500 to do a 12 hour course on 'How to be a Librarian'.

 

I mean how difficult can it be? Stand at the counter, wave the chosen book over the bar-code computer thingy, lend it out, when it's returned, wave it over the computer again, charge the borrower a fine of 1p per day for every day over 14 they are not returned. When the book is returned, check for damage and put it back on the shelf.

 

I expect the remaining 11.5 hours is spent on how to get local schools to enter painting competitions to decorate the walls of the Childrens Section; contact the local Art Society for pictures for the walls of The Reference Library etc, never under any circumstances smile and say SSHHHhh in a loud whisper.

 

Wait. Perhaps he's going to be a mobile Libro and part of it is an H.G.V. Drivers course.

 

It's a little more complicated than you would think but not exactly rocket science, surely?

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Astro-physics is, of course, a branch of rocket science GHA. Good linkage. Subtle.

 

Look GHA. If it was me and someone came in and said, say "Do you have anything by Jeffery Archer, please", I would look up Archer on the trusty P.C. and say "Yes. Reference Section under 'A' for Astro-physics. We have three of his in at the moment. Just over there on the right".

 

Technology GHA. Technology.

 

[Oh, by the way. My example pre-supposes that Jeffery Archer writes on Astro-physics, of course.]

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No, GHA. No knowledge, no experience, just a moments thought.

 

The books would certainly be lined up in alphabetical order if I was in charge of the library. The back bit [spine?] facing outwards so that members of the public could see the name of the book at a glance. Just to add a splash of colour and some variety, every now and then, I would put a book with a cover [dust-jacket?] on it's back with the front outside cover facing outwards.

 

I wonder if I could get on the £8,500 course? Money for jam, if you ask me.

 

Look. GHA. Like many students, you probably think that you get your Certificate of Librarianhoodship at the end of a gruelling 12 hour course and you can walk in to your £125,000 a year job at the Library in The Maltings and you know it all.

 

Not quite, GHA. D@mn-all actually. A little bit of knowledge from the University of Life wont come amiss. Mark my words.

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Firstly - it's a Master's degree and therefore only a one-year course.

Secondly - I will be extremely poorly paid at the end of it all - relative to other careers I could have chosen, but I'm not complaining because I actually enjoy what I do.

Thirdly - There's a heck of a lot more to it than you could possibly imagine, and some of it seems incredibly far-removed from what you would consider to be the 'normal work' of a librarian. The things most people associate with Librarianship are actually the kind of things that are done more regularly by unqualified library stuff. At the moment part of my coursework is using a thing called the Text Encoding Initiative to markup large sections of Hansards. I'd explain more but no-one would be interested.

Fourthly - Dewey, don't get me started on this. Rather unfortunately I have a reputation for being a bit of classification obsessive. This is the one area of the course where it could be argued some of our teaching has been a bit esoteric. The other day we learnt how to work out the number for a biography of a tree - not tree's in general, but a specific tree!

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Somebody did once suggest that in one of our lectures!

 

AFF - lets just imagine somebody was doing a course on, say, criminology, and they were looking for "Crime and capitalism : readings in Marxist criminology", "Gender, crime, and feminism ", "Taboos in criminology ", and "Varieties of criminology : readings from a dynamic discipline"

With your system they would have to spend a long time running all over their (possibly very large) library, and the likelihood of them stumbling over other useful books whilst browsing would be nil.

 

If on the other hand your library was organised according to Dewey, they would just have to go to 364.01, 364.082, 364.2 and 364 respectively.

 

But I can't tell whether or not you're taking the Mickey Bliss (obscure library reference there!)

 

In Public libraries, they might well have their books shelved alphabetically - it's all about reacting to your users needs!

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Libro.

 

Now you're being silly.

 

Take your example "Varieties in criminology" and "Tabboos in criminology" These are examples of NON-FICTION, EffemSel. That's a horse of a different colour. Alphabetically, yes, but with some sub-sections. It would be pretty stupid to put "Varieties etc. under "V" with all the other books in the world that start with a "V" and "Taboos etc" under "T" and so on.

 

You need a section of the library for Reference books and within that a section a sub-section for "Crime and Criminolgy" or some such. The various sub-sections would be organised alphabetically, of course.

 

You will be suggesting numbers in place of ....of.....of.. err... web-site addresses or something next.

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You need a section of the library for Reference books and within that a section a sub-section for "Crime and Criminolgy" or some such. The various sub-sections would be organised alphabetically, of course.


Hmmm, that would be how i'd do it too. But then you get the interesting problem of books on two subjects, where neither subject is of obvious importance - where do you put those?

As for fiction, most of the libraries I could end up working in would be quite unliikely to have much of a fiction section anyway.

Oh, and GHA, was that quote by Paul Ricoeur, or did you not know?
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