margateshot Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Taken from the FA's website THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION REGULATORY COMMISSIONIN RESPECT OF 2 BREACHES OF FA RULE E10COMMITTED BY ENFIELD TOWN FCIntroduction1. These are the written reasons for the Regulatory Commission decision made on Wednesday22ndApril 2015.2. The Regulatory Commission members were Major (Retd) W Thomson (Chairman), Mr STurner and Mr D Rose.3. Mr Robert Marsh, Judicial Services Manager of the Football Association, acted as Secretary tothe Hearing.4. The Commission was considering a charge raised by The FA for two breaches of FA Rule E10in that it is alleged that Enfield Town FC failed to comply with an FA suspension in that AryanTajbakhsh participated in the following first team fixtures between 3 January 2015 and 17January 2015:Enfield Town FC v Hendon FCIsthmian Premier League10 January 2015Tonbridge Angels FC v Enfield Town FCIsthmian Premier League17 January 20155. Mr Dario Giovannelli represented The Football Association (FA).6. Enfield Town FC had denied the charges and requested a personal hearing.Details7. Mr Giovannelli introduced the case against Enfield Town FC and the Commission was referredto FA Rule E10 which reads “Each Participant shall comply with a decision made pursuant tothe Rules and regulations of the Association”. 8. Mr Giovannelli went on to explain that Enfield Town FC had breached FA Rule E10 on twoseparate occasions, against Hendon FC on the 10thJanuary and against Tonbridge Angels onthe 17thJanuary 2015.9. Mr Giovannelli acknowledged that there had been three separate records created for AryanTajbakhsh and it required a human hand to join all three records. He had also no dispute withthe evidence produced by Enfield Town FC. However, it was a matter of fact that AryanTajbakhsh had received 10 cautions and directed the Commission to the FA Handbook, page390 Cautions Offences Section D paragraph 3. Mr Giovannelli in his submission, also directedthe Commission to page 397 paragraph 11(a) sub paragraph 4 of the FA Handbook. MrGiovannelli also stated that Enfield Town had made no contact with the Football Association(FA) until the 26thJanuary 2015.10. Enfield Town FC was represented by Mr P Reed (Chairman) and Mr P Millington (ViceChairman).11. The defence of Enfield Town was that they had made all the necessary enquiries to ensureAryan Tajbakhsh was eligible to play for Enfield Town FC. None of the ten cautions involved inthis case occurred whilst Aryan Tajbakhsh was a registered player with Enfield Town FC. Assuch the club would not have had immediate access to the player’s caution history and the clubsubmitted that it had made all the necessary enquiries of both player and database to checkthe position before playing him in the games versus Hendon and Tonbridge Angels.Furthermore on receiving the 10thcaution of the season prior to joining Enfield Town FC, thestandard procedure is for the FA to issue a notification of suspension and notification of a £20fine. In the case of Aryan Tajbakhsh, it was submitted that this was not received by the club orthe player.12. The club called Dr N Howard (Secretary) to give evidence on behalf of the club. Dr Howardstated that upon signing the registration form the match secretary Mr Keith Wortley askedAryan Tajbakhsh questions regarding international clearance and whether the player wassuspended. The player said he was not under suspension but had been told to miss a matchearlier in the season for five bookings and also for a sending off. As he had received a numberof cautions he was also asked about how many he had received, the player said that he wasnot sure as his former clubs had not told him, but he believed it to be around eight or nine.13. Dr Howard went on to say that on receiving that information from the match secretary,regarding the uncertainty of how many bookings Aryan Tajbakhsh had received, he undertooka search of the suspension checker on the County FA’s website. The player, Aryan TajbakhshDOB 27/10/1990, did not appear on the list. As a result of his enquiries the player playedagainst Hendon FC on the 10thJanuary and against Tonbridge Angels on the 17thJanuary2015.14. Dr Howard went on to explain that as a result of Aryan Tajbakhsh receiving a caution in thegame versus Maidstone United on the 24thJanuary 2015, whilst dealing with the administrationhe had observed a discrepancy against Aryan Tajbakhsh. Dr Howard explained that given thisdiscrepancy he immediately contacted the FA to rectify this.15. On contacting the FA Dr Howard stated that a reply from Jill Roberts of the FA asked if AryanTajbakhsh was the same player that had played for Cheshunt VCD and Enfield Town FC. Anattachment showed a number of cautions, which highlighted Aryan Tajbakhsh should haveserved a two match suspension starting on the 3rdJanuary 2015.16. Dr Howard went on to say following a conversation with Jill Roberts that Aryan Tajbakhsh wasomitted from the game versus Dulwich Hamlet FC. The club submitted that a furtherconversation also took place between the Manager of Enfield Town FC and Mark Ives of theFA Disciplinary department and as a result of this conversation Aryan Tajbakhsh was alsoomitted from the game versus the Metropolitan Police. This game would clear the outstandingtwo match suspension.17. Dr Howard was then asked by the members of the Commission, knowing that he knew theplayer had a number of cautions which database had he checked, to which he replied he wasunsure.18. Dr Howard went on to say that he believed the club had acted in good faith, by immediatelyseeking to establish the player’s disciplinary record by checking the database. He said that theincorrect recording of the player’s details which led to this situation was not made by his cluband was therefore outside the control of Enfield Town FC. The club had also immediatelycontacted the FA when the Secretary had noticed that the player only had one caution on hisrecord following the game on the 24thand subsequently acted on the advice of the FA not toplay the player in the next two games once the club had been informed of the suspension.19. Enfield Town FC then called Aryan Tajbakhsh to give evidence which was conducted bytelephone. Aryan Tajbakhsh stated that he informed Mr. Wortley that to his knowledge he wasnot suspended and had around eight to nine cautions. He had been suspended twice duringthe current season, one of which was for accumulating five cautions.20. Mr Tajbakhsh went on to say that at no point had he received any notification from any of hisprevious clubs or the FA that he was suspended for reaching ten cautions. He also said thatbecause his suspensions did not appear on the website’s suspension checker, neither himselfnor his club could have been reasonably expected to know he was suspended.21. Mr Tajbakhsh also stated that having been made aware of his suspension, he immediatelyserved those matches, still having had no formal notification and he believed this demonstratedthat both Enfield Town and himself had acted with the best of intentions at all times.22. Further evidence was produced by Enfield Town FC, in the form of an e-mail from BenMarshall of the FA to the Isthmian League. The content of the email had indicated that the FAwere only opening an investigation case against the player for playing whilst suspended forEnfield Town FC but were not intending on taking any further action in relation to the club.23. Enfield Town FC also submitted that Mr Mark Ives of the FA Disciplinary department hadrelayed orally that same message that no charges would be raised against Enfield Town FCregarding this matter.24. Mr Giovannelli did not challenge that submission from the Club but stated that only the ChiefRegulatory Officer or his nominee(s) could make such a decision on charging.25. Although the club did not raise the argument Mr. Giovannelli explained that the assurances notto charge may be capable of acting in the interest of the defence analogous to an estoppel ofsome form but the club would need to demonstrate that it had suffered some kind of detrimenthaving relied on those assurances. The club submitted that during their most recent match themanager had chosen to play for the draw as opposed to the win as they were under the beliefthat they would not be charged. The example given by the club occurred after they had beencharged by The FA and therefore any action they took during that match was in the knowledgethat a charge had been raised and a points deduction may follow from the league under theirrules if the charge was found proven. The Commission was not satisfied on the submissionsmade by the Club that they had presented enough evidence to demonstrate an argument intheir defence analogous to an estoppel.26. Enfield Town FC also produced in evidence a Sport Resolution document in regard to a FARule K Arbitration involving Thurrock Football Club, the FA and the Isthmian League.27. Enfield Town FC further argued that E10 in law cannot apply. The Commission did not agreewith this submission. The Club further submitted that they were victims to the internal systemsof the FA and if the case was proven, this would be detrimental to the Club. They had not triedto hide anything; in fact if they had not brought the matter to the attention of the FA then it mayhave gone unnoticed.Determination28. The Commission had sympathy with Enfield Town FC but Enfield Town FC were informed bythe player, Aryan Tajbakhsh, that he had received a number of cautions (eight or nineaccording to his evidence) and had even been suspended during the course of the currentseason for reaching five cautions. This should have given Enfield Town FC cause to check thedefinitive position in respect of the player’s caution tally and eligibility with the Association. Nocontact was made with the Association until the 26thJanuary after the player had alreadycompleted the two fixtures for the club.29. There is some confusion with the Club Secretary as to whether he had checked only thesuspension checker available on the County FA website or whether he had also checked theMember Services database. If he had checked the latter then alarm bells should have rangwhen that database would have shown the player to have had no cautions when the Club hadbeen told by the player that there would be eight or nine. By checking only the former thatwould only flag players who were currently under suspension assuming duplicate records didnot exist and would not inform the club of the total number of cautions a player had received.30. Although it is not the fault of Enfield Town FC that duplicate records had been created for theplayer, the origin of such duplicate records is unknown, but the rule which the Club are allegedto have breached is in effect one of strict liability. The Club, in playing a suspended player hadbreached FA Rule E10 which states “Each Participant shall comply with a decision madepursuant to the Rule and regulations of the Association”.31. The player had reached 10 cautions and he should have been suspended for the two fixtures inwhich he played on the 10thand 17thof January which was agreed by both parties. A decisionhad been made by the Association pursuant to Regulation 11(a)(iv) of the DisciplinaryProcedures which apply which states that “If a Player accumulates ten cautions in anyCompetition between the opening day of the Playing Season and the second Sunday of April inthe same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering: - Two First Teammatches plus a fine of £20”. Such a suspension came into immediate effect and in accordancewith Regulation 3 of the Disciplinary Procedures which apply the punishment takes effect“…regardless of whether or not the notification of it from The Association is received before it isdue to take effect…”.32. The Commission could not be certain if assurances had been provided to the Club withouthearing from Mr. Ives although even if such had been provided to the club the Commission donot believe that to have a nullifying effect on the charge.33. Having given consideration to all the evidence presented and the Rules as they stand theCommission found the charge against Enfield Town FC of two breaches of FA Rule E10proven.Sanction34. The Commission noted that the club had no previous record of similar misconduct andconsidered the mitigation submitted on behalf of the club. Mr. Giovannelli on behalf of The FAsubmitted that the sanction on the club should be no more than a warning as to their futureconduct.35. The Commission considered the fact that the Club had felt that it had done all it could toascertain whether the player was suspended before playing him. The Commission note thatthe Club had made some checks although it had stopped short of directly cont acting the FA toascertain whether the player was eligible to participate or as to his accurate caution total. Infact when the club did contact the FA on the 26thJanuary the FA identified the other records forthe player, therefore, if such contact had been made before the 10thJanuary it is likely that theplayer’s suspension would have been identified. The Commission would have expected a Clubto have conducted better research into the player’s caution total once the player had confirmedhe was unsure whether his total was eight or nine cautions for the season, a number whichtakes him close to the suspension threshold and one that a club would presumably want tomonitor.36. We further considered that none of the offending cautions had occurred whilst at Enfield TownFC and that the duplicate records on the system were not the fault of Enfield Town FC. Thefirst duplicate record was created as a result of the incorrect spelling of the player’s name andthe second due to an incorrect date of birth. The origin of these duplicate records is unknownand they may have been created when the player was registered by previous clubs or reportedfor misconduct by match officials, in any event it was not Enfield Town FC who had createdthem.37. Having considered all of the evidence provided, the mitigation presented and thecircumstances of the case the Commission Members were unanimous in ordering that EnfieldTown FC be only warned as to their future conduct.38. The personal hearing fee was ordered to be retained but the Commission did not order anycosts against either party.39. There is a right of appeal against this decision.Major W Thomson 24thApril 2015Chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jab_n17 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 the reasons maybe or maybe be not true or factual regarding Enfield, but what a bloody balls up by whoever is involved in dealing with this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 the reasons maybe or maybe be not true or factual regarding Enfield, but what a bloody balls up by whoever is involved in dealing with this...... I think we all know who that is !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jab_n17 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I think we all know who that is !! oh yes defo.....blaming others and passing the buck comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 What a muck up. With a capital F. It's hard to see what Enfield Town have done wrong, but plainly obvious how it has been mishandled by the authorities. It is totally stupid to have come to this, affecting 5 clubs (including Met Police), who have players out of contract and going on holiday. Not to mention all the fans, who the league and FA don't seem to give a toss about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dacorum Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Taken from the FA's website THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION REGULATORY COMMISSION IN RESPECT OF 2 BREACHES OF FA RULE E10 COMMITTED BY ENFIELD TOWN FC Introduction 1. These are the written reasons for the Regulatory Commission decision made on Wednesday 22 nd April 2015. 2. The Regulatory Commission members were Major (Retd) W Thomson (Chairman), Mr S Turner and Mr D Rose. 3. Mr Robert Marsh, Judicial Services Manager of the Football Association, acted as Secretary to the Hearing. 4. The Commission was considering a charge raised by The FA for two breaches of FA Rule E10 in that it is alleged that Enfield Town FC failed to comply with an FA suspension in that Aryan Tajbakhsh participated in the following first team fixtures between 3 January 2015 and 17 January 2015: Enfield Town FC v Hendon FC Isthmian Premier League 10 January 2015 Tonbridge Angels FC v Enfield Town FC Isthmian Premier League 17 January 2015 5. Mr Dario Giovannelli represented The Football Association (FA). 6. Enfield Town FC had denied the charges and requested a personal hearing. Details 7. Mr Giovannelli introduced the case against Enfield Town FC and the Commission was referred to FA Rule E10 which reads “Each Participant shall comply with a decision made pursuant to the Rules and regulations of the Association”. 8. Mr Giovannelli went on to explain that Enfield Town FC had breached FA Rule E10 on two separate occasions, against Hendon FC on the 10 th January and against Tonbridge Angels on the 17 th January 2015. 9. Mr Giovannelli acknowledged that there had been three separate records created for Aryan Tajbakhsh and it required a human hand to join all three records. He had also no dispute with the evidence produced by Enfield Town FC. However, it was a matter of fact that Aryan Tajbakhsh had received 10 cautions and directed the Commission to the FA Handbook, page 390 Cautions Offences Section D paragraph 3. Mr Giovannelli in his submission, also directed the Commission to page 397 paragraph 11(a) sub paragraph 4 of the FA Handbook. Mr Giovannelli also stated that Enfield Town had made no contact with the Football Association (FA) until the 26 th January 2015. 10. Enfield Town FC was represented by Mr P Reed (Chairman) and Mr P Millington (Vice Chairman). 11. The defence of Enfield Town was that they had made all the necessary enquiries to ensure Aryan Tajbakhsh was eligible to play for Enfield Town FC. None of the ten cautions involved in this case occurred whilst Aryan Tajbakhsh was a registered player with Enfield Town FC. As such the club would not have had immediate access to the player’s caution history and the club submitted that it had made all the necessary enquiries of both player and database to check the position before playing him in the games versus Hendon and Tonbridge Angels. Furthermore on receiving the 10 th caution of the season prior to joining Enfield Town FC, the standard procedure is for the FA to issue a notification of suspension and notification of a £20 fine. In the case of Aryan Tajbakhsh, it was submitted that this was not received by the club or the player. 12. The club called Dr N Howard (Secretary) to give evidence on behalf of the club. Dr Howard stated that upon signing the registration form the match secretary Mr Keith Wortley asked Aryan Tajbakhsh questions regarding international clearance and whether the player was suspended. The player said he was not under suspension but had been told to miss a match earlier in the season for five bookings and also for a sending off. As he had received a number of cautions he was also asked about how many he had received, the player said that he was not sure as his former clubs had not told him, but he believed it to be around eight or nine. 13. Dr Howard went on to say that on receiving that information from the match secretary, regarding the uncertainty of how many bookings Aryan Tajbakhsh had received, he undertook a search of the suspension checker on the County FA’s website. The player, Aryan Tajbakhsh DOB 27/10/1990, did not appear on the list. As a result of his enquiries the player played against Hendon FC on the 10 th January and against Tonbridge Angels on the 17 th January 2015. 14. Dr Howard went on to explain that as a result of Aryan Tajbakhsh receiving a caution in the game versus Maidstone United on the 24 th January 2015, whilst dealing with the administration he had observed a discrepancy against Aryan Tajbakhsh. Dr Howard explained that given this discrepancy he immediately contacted the FA to rectify this. 15. On contacting the FA Dr Howard stated that a reply from Jill Roberts of the FA asked if Aryan Tajbakhsh was the same player that had played for Cheshunt VCD and Enfield Town FC. An attachment showed a number of cautions, which highlighted Aryan Tajbakhsh should have served a two match suspension starting on the 3 rd January 2015. 16. Dr Howard went on to say following a conversation with Jill Roberts that Aryan Tajbakhsh was omitted from the game versus Dulwich Hamlet FC. The club submitted that a further conversation also took place between the Manager of Enfield Town FC and Mark Ives of the FA Disciplinary department and as a result of this conversation Aryan Tajbakhsh was also omitted from the game versus the Metropolitan Police. This game would clear the outstanding two match suspension. 17. Dr Howard was then asked by the members of the Commission, knowing that he knew the player had a number of cautions which database had he checked, to which he replied he was unsure. 18. Dr Howard went on to say that he believed the club had acted in good faith, by immediately seeking to establish the player’s disciplinary record by checking the database. He said that the incorrect recording of the player’s details which led to this situation was not made by his club and was therefore outside the control of Enfield Town FC. The club had also immediately contacted the FA when the Secretary had noticed that the player only had one caution on his record following the game on the 24 th and subsequently acted on the advice of the FA not to play the player in the next two games once the club had been informed of the suspension. 19. Enfield Town FC then called Aryan Tajbakhsh to give evidence which was conducted by telephone. Aryan Tajbakhsh stated that he informed Mr. Wortley that to his knowledge he was not suspended and had around eight to nine cautions. He had been suspended twice during the current season, one of which was for accumulating five cautions. 20. Mr Tajbakhsh went on to say that at no point had he received any notification from any of his previous clubs or the FA that he was suspended for reaching ten cautions. He also said that because his suspensions did not appear on the website’s suspension checker, neither himself nor his club could have been reasonably expected to know he was suspended. 21. Mr Tajbakhsh also stated that having been made aware of his suspension, he immediately served those matches, still having had no formal notification and he believed this demonstrated that both Enfield Town and himself had acted with the best of intentions at all times. 22. Further evidence was produced by Enfield Town FC, in the form of an e-mail from Ben Marshall of the FA to the Isthmian League. The content of the email had indicated that the FA were only opening an investigation case against the player for playing whilst suspended for Enfield Town FC but were not intending on taking any further action in relation to the club. 23. Enfield Town FC also submitted that Mr Mark Ives of the FA Disciplinary department had relayed orally that same message that no charges would be raised against Enfield Town FC regarding this matter. 24. Mr Giovannelli did not challenge that submission from the Club but stated that only the Chief Regulatory Officer or his nominee(s) could make such a decision on charging. 25. Although the club did not raise the argument Mr. Giovannelli explained that the assurances not to charge may be capable of acting in the interest of the defence analogous to an estoppel of some form but the club would need to demonstrate that it had suffered some kind of detriment having relied on those assurances. The club submitted that during their most recent match the manager had chosen to play for the draw as opposed to the win as they were under the belief that they would not be charged. The example given by the club occurred after they had been charged by The FA and therefore any action they took during that match was in the knowledge that a charge had been raised and a points deduction may follow from the league under their rules if the charge was found proven. The Commission was not satisfied on the submissions made by the Club that they had presented enough evidence to demonstrate an argument in their defence analogous to an estoppel. 26. Enfield Town FC also produced in evidence a Sport Resolution document in regard to a FA Rule K Arbitration involving Thurrock Football Club, the FA and the Isthmian League. 27. Enfield Town FC further argued that E10 in law cannot apply. The Commission did not agree with this submission. The Club further submitted that they were victims to the internal systems of the FA and if the case was proven, this would be detrimental to the Club. They had not tried to hide anything; in fact if they had not brought the matter to the attention of the FA then it may have gone unnoticed. Determination 28. The Commission had sympathy with Enfield Town FC but Enfield Town FC were informed by the player, Aryan Tajbakhsh, that he had received a number of cautions (eight or nine according to his evidence) and had even been suspended during the course of the current season for reaching five cautions. This should have given Enfield Town FC cause to check the definitive position in respect of the player’s caution tally and eligibility with the Association. No contact was made with the Association until the 26 th January after the player had already completed the two fixtures for the club. 29. There is some confusion with the Club Secretary as to whether he had checked only the suspension checker available on the County FA website or whether he had also checked the Member Services database. If he had checked the latter then alarm bells should have rang when that database would have shown the player to have had no cautions when the Club had been told by the player that there would be eight or nine. By checking only the former that would only flag players who were currently under suspension assuming duplicate records did not exist and would not inform the club of the total number of cautions a player had received. 30. Although it is not the fault of Enfield Town FC that duplicate records had been created for the player, the origin of such duplicate records is unknown, but the rule which the Club are alleged to have breached is in effect one of strict liability. The Club, in playing a suspended player had breached FA Rule E10 which states “Each Participant shall comply with a decision made pursuant to the Rule and regulations of the Association”. 31. The player had reached 10 cautions and he should have been suspended for the two fixtures in which he played on the 10 th and 17 th of January which was agreed by both parties. A decision had been made by the Association pursuant to Regulation 11(a)(iv) of the Disciplinary Procedures which apply which states that “If a Player accumulates ten cautions in any Competition between the opening day of the Playing Season and the second Sunday of April in the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering: - Two First Team matches plus a fine of £20”. Such a suspension came into immediate effect and in accordance with Regulation 3 of the Disciplinary Procedures which apply the punishment takes effect “…regardless of whether or not the notification of it from The Association is received before it is due to take effect…”. 32. The Commission could not be certain if assurances had been provided to the Club without hearing from Mr. Ives although even if such had been provided to the club the Commission do not believe that to have a nullifying effect on the charge. 33. Having given consideration to all the evidence presented and the Rules as they stand the Commission found the charge against Enfield Town FC of two breaches of FA Rule E10 proven. Sanction 34. The Commission noted that the club had no previous record of similar misconduct and considered the mitigation submitted on behalf of the club. Mr. Giovannelli on behalf of The FA submitted that the sanction on the club should be no more than a warning as to their future conduct. 35. The Commission considered the fact that the Club had felt that it had done all it could to ascertain whether the player was suspended before playing him. The Commission note that the Club had made some checks although it had stopped short of directly cont acting the FA to ascertain whether the player was eligible to participate or as to his accurate caution total. In fact when the club did contact the FA on the 26 th January the FA identified the other records for the player, therefore, if such contact had been made before the 10 th January it is likely that the player’s suspension would have been identified. The Commission would have expected a Club to have conducted better research into the player’s caution total once the player had confirmed he was unsure whether his total was eight or nine cautions for the season, a number which takes him close to the suspension threshold and one that a club would presumably want to monitor. 36. We further considered that none of the offending cautions had occurred whilst at Enfield Town FC and that the duplicate records on the system were not the fault of Enfield Town FC. The first duplicate record was created as a result of the incorrect spelling of the player’s name and the second due to an incorrect date of birth. The origin of these duplicate records is unknown and they may have been created when the player was registered by previous clubs or reported for misconduct by match officials, in any event it was not Enfield Town FC who had created them. 37. Having considered all of the evidence provided, the mitigation presented and the circumstances of the case the Commission Members were unanimous in ordering that Enfield Town FC be only warned as to their future conduct. 38. The personal hearing fee was ordered to be retained but the Commission did not order any costs against either party. 39. There is a right of appeal against this decision. Major W Thomson 24 th April 2015 Chairman get a life ffs............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 well i appreciate the posting. the biggest losers are probably the players of all 5 clubs who don't know whether they will be retained next season or not-thus those not retained-may not so easily get other clubs. managers won't sign players and players won't sign because they will not know what lweague they will be playing in-and what the going salary rate is likely to be. all 5 clubs will not be able to prepare properly for next season for 4/5 weeks and thus al 5 clubs start next season with a serious disadvantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enfield United Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 An organised well connected manager would already have his key players tapped up for next season, both if they were to be step 2 or 2 levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 absolutely. could it not be the case though that those same players may not sign until they know which league clubs will be in-wage levels may be differentclubs can't produce/finalise a contract,other clubs step in to snap them up in meantime -above all players want security. managers may not want to demotivate current players by issuing release lists-this released players from the 'ryman 5' have less time to find new clubs. us supporters moan about work arrangements/loss of a days pay because of re-arrangements-but this could well be preventing players actually getting 'newclubs/jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Just goes to show honesty does not pay.Would like to know why Mark Ives FA Discipline was not called by anyone to appear before the Commision to give his side of the story.Having had dealings with him myself a few years a ago,he is not a man to trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enfield United Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I can't believe the unanimous (except Met Police) opinion from supporters and officials who regard the punishment as unjust. The FA will be made to look stupid and inept if the decision is not overturned. They have alienated them selves with all clubs at our level by ruining the end of season events for 'real fans' who participate hands on with their local clubs. You can see how supporters of non league clubs want nothing to do with the Division 5 idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill in USA Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Just read the up-date. Meeting this Friday - think you guys will get your play-offs before the start of next season?? ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jab_n17 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Just read the up-date. Meeting this Friday - think you guys will get your play-offs before the start of next season?? ^_^ prob be a PSF in August at this rate bloody ridiculous situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill in USA Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 What no news yet!!????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 The FA are a joke as are the ryman league but we all knew that already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hope no-one is holding their breatrh !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jab_n17 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 wonder if by the end of play (pardon the pun) there be a further delay.....Fa delay, FA delay, FA delay and on and on and on !!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 It has just been announced that Enfield Town F.C. lost their case. I expect more will follow later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill in USA Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 It has just been announced that Enfield Town F.C. lost their case. I expect more will follow later. Looks as if you are doing the play-off on Thurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jab_n17 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 i see after all the Enfield issues of the case and appeals, the FA and co sorting it out the legal stuff etc etc that's taken weeks the Fcuk wits decide to give fans, players less then 2 days to arrange with work, travel more so with the Dulwich supporters.... Also what happens with fans that have already purchased tickets that now due to circumstances can't make this Thursday do they get reimbursed ? not by MFC but the FA and co or as per normal fans don't count and as per normal get shafted.....again!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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