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9 minutes ago, rebelade said:

Believe that the rule was it is 3 matches of the team you got sent off for, so would be 3 U23 games to be played before he can play for first team 

If that's the case I make it that the first game Nis will become available to play for us will be on the 1st December at home to Ebbsfleet.   

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4 hours ago, SloughFlyer said:

2 interesting signings for Beaconsfield this afternoon -

Mark Nisbet on dual reg with us, presuming for him to get some game time for fitness

Dylan Kearny on a months loan from H+Y. Thoughts on that move 3spirit??

RR, perhaps 3spirit has gone to Holloways Park to find out more before commenting.

My view of Dylan Kearney this season was that he looked slightly overweight, put himself about a bit but was lacking the finesse and quality required of a centre forward playing for a club aiming for promotion from the level below Slough Town. In U 'As two matches since I last saw him when he was substituted after 65 minutes against Chipstead, Dylan Kearney came on as a substitute in the 66th minute against Truro City and was an unused substitute against Wealdstone.

My pointing out that he has not yet scored in a competitive match this season was met with a lengthy post by 3spirit on the attributes of the all round footballing centre forward, despite his previous suggestion that Dylan Kearney might be the answer to Slough Town's lack of goals scored so far this season.

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Kearny ayed the full 90 minutes tonight. Held the ball up well and hit the bar with a rocket of a shot from 30 yards, but other than that didn't do much to convince me he is or is likely to be good enough.

Nis had a fairly non-descript game, got booked (correct decision) and wasn't at fault for any of the Harrow goals. A decent fitness run out for him i would think.

A very enjoyable evenings entertainment and as STFC season ticket holders this evening we got in for free which was a nice touch. Beaconsfield can feel a bit aggrieved in the result as the 2nd goal was offside and the 3rd wasn't a pen and they had enough chances to win the game 5 times over. Onto Hayes v Chesham tomorrow night. 

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20 hours ago, SloughFlyer said:

2 interesting signings for Beaconsfield this afternoon -

Mark Nisbet on dual reg with us, presuming for him to get some game time for fitness

Dylan Kearny on a months loan from H+Y. Thoughts on that move 3spirit??

 

13 hours ago, SloughFlyer said:

Kearny ayed the full 90 minutes tonight. Held the ball up well and hit the bar with a rocket of a shot from 30 yards, but other than that didn't do much to convince me he is or is likely to be good enough.

Nis had a fairly non-descript game, got booked (correct decision) and wasn't at fault for any of the Harrow goals. A decent fitness run out for him i would think.

A very enjoyable evenings entertainment and as STFC season ticket holders this evening we got in for free which was a nice touch. Beaconsfield can feel a bit aggrieved in the result as the 2nd goal was offside and the 3rd wasn't a pen and they had enough chances to win the game 5 times over. Onto Hayes v Chesham tomorrow night. 

Sorry for the delay in replying, SloughFlyer, I didn't get on the forum yesterday. Any player that goes on loan or dual reg is either coming back from an injury, is being lent to the new club as a favour, or is deemed not good enough for his original club and is going out on loan to try to find some form. In Dylan Kearney's case it sounds like the latter of those three. Hitting the bar from 30 yards gets no plaudits but had it gone in everyone would be saying 'what a brilliant strike' !

Personally, when I look at a striker I look at what his all-round game is but obviously he needs to score an amount of goals. I prefer a squad to have 4 strikers in it. I would forsake a sole midfielder to have this luxury. Bakes and Unders lean towards having more defenders and midfielders.

To me we already possess a goal predator in Dan Roberts but I've yet to see a player who fits well with him up front. Ben Harris has played well in games this season[until injury] and did a reasonable stint last year. Due to his injury record and how many minutes he get's on the pitch, I feel we should have two back up strikers. One being an up and coming youngster,which we were trying with the lad Ade. This for me leaves an opening. I haven't seen Dylan play for 3 seasons, so I can't say that he is going to be Slough's answer, however, given our lack of finances and Dylan's availability, I can't see the harm in trying him out. I believe under the right tutelage you would get more from him. The trouble at Slough is we don't have a forwards coach. 

Unlike Shredding Green and perhaps yourself, SloughFlyer, I would focus on what Dylan can do, rather than what he can't do. What was wrong with a 3 month loan to Slough, rather than Beaconsfield? Tony Choules, when managing Uxbridge got Dylan scoring goals and leading the line well. This is why he came to the attention of Sutton and Wealdstone.  OK it was at a lower level but he's only 23,he's got another couple of years to hone his craft in my eyes. All strikers go through droughts in scoring goals. I don't view Dylan as a natural goal poacher/number 9. I view him as an old fashioned number 10 and that is the game I would ask him to play in the main but I would try to get him to be impulsive,if a shooting chance comes his way. I wouldn't ask him to pussyfoot around with the ball. He is never going to be an Ed Smith.

I don't write a striker off because he doesn't score goals. Sometimes I like to watch a striker just be a nuisance to defenders and try to put their head and chest to everything[the ball] when it comes into the box and blocking defenders/shielding the ball from defenders getting the ball. That's totally different to what Dan Roberts does for us, and Ben Harris game to a certain degree.  

Bakes and Unders have their own ideas and may have a forward player in mind to bring in but if they haven't and have no money to afford a 'name' player then why not try Dylan. It might not be a success but how do you know till you try?  Whatever? Slough currently have an opening for another forward and as you yourself said, SloughFlyer, there aren't many alternatives on the local scene at the moment.

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14 hours ago, Shredding Green said:

RR, perhaps 3spirit has gone to Holloways Park to find out more before commenting.

My view of Dylan Kearney this season was that he looked slightly overweight, put himself about a bit but was lacking the finesse and quality required of a centre forward playing for a club aiming for promotion from the level below Slough Town. In U 'As two matches since I last saw him when he was substituted after 65 minutes against Chipstead, Dylan Kearney came on as a substitute in the 66th minute against Truro City and was an unused substitute against Wealdstone.

My pointing out that he has not yet scored in a competitive match this season was met with a lengthy post by 3spirit on the attributes of the all round footballing centre forward, despite his previous suggestion that Dylan Kearney might be the answer to Slough Town's lack of goals scored so far this season.

Shredding Green, what is it with today's generation that everyone has to be a 'stick' insect?  I don't see being slightly overweight in a striker as being a negative. To me that gives you bulk, and thus gives you an advantage to barge an opponent player vying for the ball, off of it.

Do you remember Sammy Winston, when he played for Slough up front? He carried weight but was still a handful for defenders and half the time, they had trouble getting the ball off of him ! He happened to be able to do mazy runs,despite his weight. We got Sammy when he was coming towards the end of his highpoint of his footballing career but he still proved to be extremely useful in his first season with us. 

Sammy is nothing like Dylan,in the way they play but they may well be of a similarly shape. We've got Dan Roberts and Paul Hodges in the lightweight stakes,we don't need another one. We need a player with strength and someone willing to get stuck in.  If Dylan hasn't been getting much game time lately [hence him being loaned out], he is bound to put weight on. With a better training regime, which Slough must have to Hayes and Yeading, in fitness terms, we might be able to build on his body strength. 

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4 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

I think you and Dylan need to get a room!!’

I don't know Dylan Kearney. Never met and I expect unlikely to.

I was asked about him and I replied [lengthily I admit] but I find it hard to condense what I write, to explain a situation properly.

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32 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

 

Sorry for the delay in replying, SloughFlyer, I didn't get on the forum yesterday. Any player that goes on loan or dual reg is either coming back from an injury, is being lent to the new club as a favour, or is deemed not good enough for his original club and is going out on loan to try to find some form. In Dylan Kearney's case it sounds like the latter of those three. Hitting the bar from 30 yards gets no plaudits but had it gone in everyone would be saying 'what a brilliant strike' !

Personally, when I look at a striker I look at what his all-round game is but obviously he needs to score an amount of goals. I prefer a squad to have 4 strikers in it. I would forsake a sole midfielder to have this luxury. Bakes and Unders lean towards having more defenders and midfielders.

To me we already possess a goal predator in Dan Roberts but I've yet to see a player who fits well with him up front. Ben Harris has played well in games this season[until injury] and did a reasonable stint last year. Due to his injury record and how many minutes he get's on the pitch, I feel we should have two back up strikers. One being an up and coming youngster,which we were trying with the lad Ade. This for me leaves an opening. I haven't seen Dylan play for 3 seasons, so I can't say that he is going to be Slough's answer, however, given our lack of finances and Dylan's availability, I can't see the harm in trying him out. I believe under the right tutelage you would get more from him. The trouble at Slough is we don't have a forwards coach. 

Unlike Shredding Green and perhaps yourself, SloughFlyer, I would focus on what Dylan can do, rather than what he can't do. What was wrong with a 3 month loan to Slough, rather than Beaconsfield? Tony Choules, when managing Uxbridge got Dylan scoring goals and leading the line well. This is why he came to the attention of Sutton and Wealdstone.  OK it was at a lower level but he's only 23,he's got another couple of years to hone his craft in my eyes. All strikers go through droughts in scoring goals. I don't view Dylan as a natural goal poacher/number 9. I view him as an old fashioned number 10 and that is the game I would ask him to play in the main but I would try to get him to be impulsive,if a shooting chance comes his way. I wouldn't ask him to pussyfoot around with the ball. He is never going to be an Ed Smith.

I don't write a striker off because he doesn't score goals. Sometimes I like to watch a striker just be a nuisance to defenders and try to put their head and chest to everything[the ball] when it comes into the box and blocking defenders/shielding the ball from defenders getting the ball. That's totally different to what Dan Roberts does for us.  

Bakes and Unders have their own ideas and may have a forward player in mind to bring in but if they haven't and have no money to afford a 'name' player then why not try Dylan. It might not be a success but how do you know till you try?  Whatever, Slough currently have an opening for another forward and as you yourself said, SloughFlyer, there aren't many alternatives on the local scene at the moment.

Going by the comment that he looks 'slightly overweight' I would say that Dylan Kearney needs plenty of game time to get himself back up to scratch match fit and scoring.

He will get a lot more game time at a lower level club like Beaconsfield than at Slough where for obvious reasons any player we bring in imo would have to merit a place in the team/squad rather than one who needs a lot of game time to get himself fit and scoring again. 

Basically to get the minutes he needs at this present time a club like Beaconsfield is probably the ideal place.

  

 

 

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34 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

Shredding Green, what is it with today's generation that everyone has to be a 'stick' insect?  I don't see being slightly overweight in a striker as being a negative. To me that gives you bulk, and thus gives you an advantage to barge an opponent player vying for the ball, off of it.

Do you remember Sammy Winston, when he played for Slough up front? He carried weight but was still a handful for defenders and half the time, they had trouble getting the ball off of him ! He happened to be able to do mazy runs,despite his weight. We got Sammy when he was coming towards the end of his highpoint of his footballing career but he still proved to be extremely useful in his first season with us. 

Sammy is nothing like Dylan,in the way they play but they may well be of a similarly shape. We've got Dan Roberts and Paul Hodges in the lightweight stakes,we don't need another one. We need a player with strength and someone willing to get stuck in.  If Dylan hasn't been getting much game time lately [hence him being loaned out], he is bound to put weight on. With a better training regime, which Slough must have to Hayes and Yeading, in fitness terms, we might be able to build on his body strength. 

Sammy Winston might have looked a bit top heavy but he was still an excellent player for us. 

It's ok being overweight if you're producing the goods but Kearney obviously isn't.

  

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1 minute ago, Reading Rebel said:

Going by the comment that he looks 'slightly overweight' I would say that Dylan Kearney needs plenty of game time to get himself back up to scratch match fit and scoring.

He will get a lot more game time at a lower level club like Beaconsfield than at Slough where for obvious reasons any player we bring in imo would have to merit a place in the team/squad rather than one who needs a lot of game time to get himself fit and scoring again. 

Basically to get the minutes he needs at this present time a club like Beaconsfield is probably the ideal place.

  

 

 

He's on a month's loan according to SloughFlyer. If he does relatively well there, Slough might still get a chance of obtaining him.

Slough can cope with what they have at the club currently, for at least, a month anyway but a 3 month loan for a striker[doesn't need to be Dylan Kearney] with the option to sign the player seems the right way to go to me, as that isn't undermining Ben Harris or the other young lad Ade.

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28 minutes ago, GlenSTFC said:

Imagine if our managers listen to 3S and take a punt on Dylan, how much pressure will be on 3S for him to do well after his constant bigging him up!

I'm not bigging him up. I'm saying he is an option.  I have recommended players to Neil before. It's his choice if he listens or not !

It's no skin off my nose,if he plays for Slough or not. I wouldn't lose any sleep if Dylan Kearney came to Slough and was awful, just as I wouldn't go around bragging if he came in and was brilliant but least with me, I have the gumption and temerity to offer an opinion and not sit on the fence, when it comes to views on players.

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Just to put you all in the know, we know Dylan very well and a nice lad , however we have no plans to bring him to the club.

Also new rules Nis is suspended for Suburban league games only, so will be able to continue to get some games to get his overall match fitness back.

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2 minutes ago, Neil Baker said:

Just to put you all in the know, we know Dylan very well and a nice lad , however we have no plans to bring him to the club.

Also new rules Nis is suspended for Suburban league games only, so will be able to continue to get some games to get his overall match fitness back.

I wish you had said this first sentence about 3 months ago, would have saved me an awful lot of writing! lol ! ?

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9 minutes ago, 3spirit said:

I'm not bigging him up. I'm saying he is an option.  I have recommended players to Neil before. It's his choice if he listens or not !

It's no skin off my nose,if he plays for Slough or not. I wouldn't lose any sleep in Dylan Kearney came to Slough and was awful,just as I wouldn't go around bragging if he came in and was brilliant but least with me, I have the gumption and temerity to offer an opinion and not sit on the fence, when it comes to views on players.

But you have gone over the top with your analysis on DK I think. Can’t recall another player you mentioned so much and such eagerness to sign! Hopefully this topic is now shut with regards to him coming to Slough.

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