Smudge Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Has anyone noticed how this League is changing,over the past few years the older established Clubs,are now falling by the Wayside,Bookham,Banstead,Dorking,Sandhurst,Alton, have had a hard time of late.The reason I believe is that they have become stale,where as progressive teams like Guernsey,South Park,Westfield,Spelthorne,Knaphill,Eversley and California,Bedfont Sports,Hanworth Villa,have all flourished off the pitch,as well as on.They have not lived on their Laurels,they have got out in hard times,and raised revenue to better themselves.Maybe others should take a leaf out of their book,before they fall by the wayside,and join the also rans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krooner Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I think there is soemthing in what you say Smudge. Although Westfield are very much an established club at this level. Also they all have their own grounds and have in someway benefitted from a lot of support in terms of grants and/or substantial council help. Before anyone gets excited by that sentance it is factual rather than a criticism Really looking forward to the 3 promoted teams making the Prem even more competitive next season. Keeps us oldens on our toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Fingers Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The "successful" Premier Clubs in recent years don't progress much further though Smudge - money has a huge influence at the next level and those above. Maybe Guernsey will buck the trend, although if you read the other threads they too are doomed as they groundshare . But as you quite rightly infer, to be successful Clubs need to look to the future. There is no future in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Kroons agree about Councils help,but if you do not,put yourself in the frame,you get nothing.Knaphill even have a bar now,now that is progression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krooner Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Kroons agree about Councils help,but if you do not,put yourself in the frame,you get nothing.Knaphill even have a bar now,now that is progression Quite agree Smudge. But it doesnt mean the clubs who havent progressed havent asked does it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Know Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Smudge, Kroons is absolutely right about Westfield and Knaphill, they have had a massive financial boost by having a Council like Woking Borough to assist them. I was astonished to hear from a Westfield committee member that they did not have to put any of their own funds into the new ground, not even pay the planning application fee. We have already paid upwards of 10k including the planning fee and we have got to find more once we get planning permission and a new lease.Do agree though about getting out and getting sponsorship, this is something that only a few clubs get right and we are not one of them. I do feel that it is good for the league to have new clubs coming up and if they replace older more established clubs, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 As the topic is New kids on the block, realistically are there any teams that can make the stringent ground grading for step 6. I've herd a few teams mentioned but are we likely to see additional teams at DIV ONE level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Lets hope so but the F.A.Ground Grading puts serious obstacles in many Clubs way.With South Kilburn resigning CCL 1 will be down to 15 clubs.The only newcomers to the CCL 1 over recent years have been Groundsharing ones,3 of whom,fell by the wayside,so it does not bode well. The more worrting factor would be if the F.A. enforce what they quoted would happen for current Step 6 Clubs,that was due to come into force 14/15 season. We could end up in a scenario,where the 3 Premier sides relegated next year,would have no CCL 1 League to go too,some serious thought must be given to this by the CCL League and its Members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non League Nigel Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 We are very grateful for the help received from the council. However it wasn't all plain sailing and thanks to the hard work of the chairman the Woking Park you see today is very different from what was intended for us. There is also a huge financial cost for the club as well which I won't get into detail on. We came very close to being demoted this season as at the turn of the year were getting nowhere with the new stand needed to keep us up. Residents firmly against it and the PA system. Committee worked a miracle to pull it off but i was staggered at the cost of the small stand. It makes a mockery of the FA rule for ground grading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Factual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 South Park----Premier Champions Spelthorne Sports-----Division 1 Champions----Division 1 Cup Winners. Hanworth Villa----Premier Cup Winners--------Southern Combination Winners Bedfont Sports----Grant McClellan Youth Cup Winners. A few years ago these teams were unknowns in the CCL.Yet this year they have cleaned up,any ideas why? It certainly is not money for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncs Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Better players maybe,obviously the managers at these clubs have very good contacts unlike a lot of others who have none,like i said before the 1st thing a manager needs at this level is a long phone book,take it from someone who has won a few of the above in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 South Park----Premier Champions Spelthorne Sports-----Division 1 Champions----Division 1 Cup Winners. Hanworth Villa----Premier Cup Winners--------Southern Combination Winners Bedfont Sports----Grant McClellan Youth Cup Winners. A few years ago these teams were unknowns in the CCL.Yet this year they have cleaned up,any ideas why? It certainly is not money for players. A very good 'back-room' squad that work together rather than against each other. Simples !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey no.1 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 What we saying,Hanworth don't pay???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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