Nonleaguevet Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I agree with Ramo. No matter the ability of the player you don't want your fans on your back. This can only lead to the player being unhappy and not feeling welcome at the club. Having watched non league for 15 years now,I've seen this happen at numerous amounts of clubs. In this case it seems like Stefans own fans are now getting on his back. I believe this is not what the club would want or the kid himself. Feeling welcome at a club can do a lot for someone's confidence . From what I've seen over the years of watching non league a confident player will express himself 10 times more than a unconfident player. In Stefans case if he expresses himself....it's game over for the opponents So get behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 As far as I am aware,it's one fan who said something out of 300. But this tweet was posted here this morning by someone and whether it has any significance to him getting sent off yesterday ,it doesn't look good if you are reading it as a fan Eastside_Aggro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside_Aggro Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Do not see why we are the ones getting an earful from who i presume are mates of the player in question. personally would like to hear stef himself on this case and an apology is needed. No matter what league he is in he is still getting paid to play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuck at the bar Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The point at issue here is not whether Mr Payne is or is not a talented player, he undoubtedly is; not where HX would be in the league with out his goals, undoubtedly nowhere near the playoffs; whether abuse is acceptable, it most certainly is not in any circumstance or whether those that pay to watch HX are all 'experts' at football,watching football is supposed to be a leisure pastime after all. It relates to one of behaviour. The behaviour of the fan in question should also be challenged if their identity is discovered. However, as previous posts have alluded to, Mr Payne is a semi-professional and that carries an expectation as to what is acceptable when representing AFCHX. Excellent ability on the pitch and a fine goal scoring record are not a substitute for bad judgement or behaviour. Pre-meditated tweets like these are not consistent when representing the club in your professional capacity. Comment has been made that he is doing his job and that this should not bring abuse, agree totally but it is how one reacts to this that determines whether or not a player has acted with professionalism and if a consequence of their actions brings the club a press it neither wants nor deserves, particularly given the recent issues at AFCHX. Miss.A.F.C.Hornchurch and Eastside_Aggro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Upminster Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Sounds like a lot of hot air to me. I am not interested in what the players get up to or say off the pitch. If they do not perform on the pitch it's down to our Jimmy Mac to sought out. Come on you Urchins!!! The Song Remains The Same Edited April 22, 2014 by Lord Upminster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cup of tea Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 What's happened has happened - All I'm interested in now is getting behind the team on Saturday and see if we can get into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydick Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) A wonderful mixture of opinons, from the Stefan fan club, from the pragmatists, the realists and even those that live in some utopian nirvana-esque world ! What was said to Stefan on Saturday was wrong - it was unnecessary and uncalled for. There's no justification for verbally abusing one of your own (or even anyone else for that matter). As has been said many times, Stefan has been a huge asset this season and we wouldn't be where we are without his performances. He's owed an apology. On the flip side, Stefan's response on Saturday was also unnecessary. Given the way the game went he's no doubt similarly frustrated and angry but he should be bigger than that. The tweet yesterday morning however was totally unacceptable. Given the issues in the summer re match fixing etc this will have hit a raw nerve with many an AFCH fan. It was crass and downright stupid. We know it was obviously meant tongue in cheek but this just gives more ammunition to those who love to find a reason to beat up AFC Hornchurch. We need to move on and ensure we win Saturday. Edited April 22, 2014 by andydick Miss.A.F.C.Hornchurch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carano18 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Well said manlikepabs!!! Stefan has completely boosted your chances at getting promotion !! Instead of slagging him off be thankful for what he has done !! Cos i guarentee when he scores you all cheer and say his name !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 But what about the tweet,that's the real issue here,not the one regarding the abuse but the one sent before yesterday's game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 But what about the tweet,that's the real issue here,not the one regarding the abuse but the one sent before yesterday's game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimbles left foot Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 LISTEN YOU HELMETS FIRST THINGS FIRST IF IT WASNT FOR STEFANS GOALS YOU WOULD BE MID TABLE AT BEST NONE OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY PLAYED FOOTBALL OR BEEN ABLE TO PLAY FOOTBALL SO KEEP YOUR SILLY OPINIONS TO YOURSELF! NO FAN SHOULD BE ABUSING PLAYERS FROM THE SIDE SO WHAT YOU PAY TO WATCH HIM PLAY THATS YOUR DECISION IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT HE HAS TO TWEET UNFOLLOW HIM IF YOU DONT LIKE HIM AS A PLAYER KEEP THE £8 TICKET MONEY AND GO BUY YOUR MRS A KEBAB! This post is actually comical....are you on a wind up mate? Stef is a quality player there is no doubt about it...and whatever abuse was given to him was out of order but so was his tweets do you not agree? Does he deserve another chance...? OF COURSE! quality players are hard to come by - will he be here next season? absolutely not. This was a shop window for him and at the end of the season I' sure he will be off to a conf side again which I'm sure we all agree is his standard. Without him midtable? he aint a one man team fella. If thats the case the same could be said for Hayles (player of the season) and styles (100% EVERY GAME)....basically I'm trying to say its a team game. You are also saying the standard of playing dictates how well you know the game? do me a favour...Roy Keane and John Barnes played at the highest level and they know [****!!****] all!! I'd have a guess that I've played at as high standard as yourself and seen as many games as you have too.....its all opinions mate You mention the 8 pound...its not all about the money...a lot of people put there hard work and time in to this club both volunteering and supporting and to see things like this hurts as it seems that OUR club gets [****!!****]ed by people every season....and things like this will do wonders for our gates dropping too which is *nice* for the outsider... Fat Tom Daley, Miss.A.F.C.Hornchurch, cup of tea and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cup of tea Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Cracking post Miss.A.F.C.Hornchurch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Well said Kimble. Miss.A.F.C.Hornchurch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyriding Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Cracking post Im anticipating a witty and concise retort............................ naaahhhhhhh cup of tea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burdy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Nice one Kimble you have said it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I think the incident Saturday and the tweet after it should be taken with a pinch of salt. I am not saying forget about it,both parties in my eyes are wrong,the player should not have been abused and at the same time,the player should not of reacted,albeit on twitter,but without the original abuse the latter doesn't happen,for this I think that particular issue should be swept under the carpet. The issue with the tweet yesterday is more serious though,I have no idea whether that particular tweet had anything to do with Saturdays events and the player being angry,therefore getting himself sent off,but it certainly doesn't look good,once he got sent off in such circumstances yesterday but it's obviously upto the player and club to work out what exactly was about that tweet and whether it is as many are seeing it. Things obviously don't always look as they seem but I can't get my head around it ,it just seems all too strange for me. Eastside_Aggro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside_Aggro Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 This post is actually comical....are you on a wind up mate? Stef is a quality player there is no doubt about it...and whatever abuse was given to him was out of order but so was his tweets do you not agree? Does he deserve another chance...? OF COURSE! quality players are hard to come by - will he be here next season? absolutely not. This was a shop window for him and at the end of the season I' sure he will be off to a conf side again which I'm sure we all agree is his standard. Without him midtable? he aint a one man team fella. If thats the case the same could be said for Hayles (player of the season) and styles (100% EVERY GAME)....basically I'm trying to say its a team game. You are also saying the standard of playing dictates how well you know the game? do me a favour...Roy Keane and John Barnes played at the highest level and they know [****!!****] all!! I'd have a guess that I've played at as high standard as yourself and seen as many games as you have too.....its all opinions mate You mention the 8 pound...its not all about the money...a lot of people put there hard work and time in to this club both volunteering and supporting and to see things like this hurts as it seems that OUR club gets [****!!****]ed by people every season....and things like this will do wonders for our gates dropping too which is *nice* for the outsider... Great post mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 We're probable gonna lose him now so well done to all you retards!!!!!!!!!!! Another season in ryman without a solid striker means we ain't moving anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside_Aggro Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Who even are you? what have we said bad about him? stop milking the situation ramo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Wtf Edited April 23, 2014 by Eastside Urchin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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