Ukraine Crisis

[Rhodes]

It's all kicking off isn't it:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570797/Dramatic-CCTV-footage-emerges-moment-suspected-Russian-military-STORM-Crimean-parliament-building-gas-masks-armed-silenced-machine-guns.html

 

 

[missunderstood]

The hypocrisy of Obama, Cameron and Hague for criticizing the Russians for invading the Ukraine almost beggars belief  considering our recent foreign adventures, and even more so for apparently siding with the people who have overthrown  a democratically elected government.

[cup of tea]

Completely agree with that.

One thing is for sure, we won't be sending the troops in this time despite Russia having oil - they offer a bit more of a threat than Iraq.

[Big J R]

No wonder Putin is known as 'The Devil'.

 

Hypocrisy doesn't enter the equation.  Parts of the Ukraine are solely live in by Ukrainians and the minority of Russian residents think it belongs to them.

 

How Putin has the nerve to say that there are NO Russian troops in the Ukraine is beyond me.  They even had the nerve to fire live rounds over the heads of UN-ARMED Ukranian airmen.  I think that really shows Putin's agenda.  He is possibly the second most dangerous man on this planet.  KGB through and through.

 

This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, me-thinks !.

[missunderstood]

Even more dangerous than nutty Nigel Farage?

Edited March 6, 2014 by missunderstood

[cup of tea]

I agree with you Big JR, I'm not a big fan of Putin and what is happening is clearly wrong - looks like the cold war could start up again if we're not careful.

It's difficult to take the moral high ground however given the recent behaviour of the UK/US though.

[cup of tea]

As for Farage, I think that the Labour party would probably be sponsoring him! UKIP will never hold any real power but could put a dent in the Conservative vote.

[missunderstood]

As for Farage, I think that the Labour party would probably be sponsoring him! UKIP will never hold any real power but could put a dent in the Conservative vote.

It wouldn't surprise me if Labour win the most seats at the next general election, but UKIP take enough to form a coalition with the Tories.  

[cup of tea]

I really hope you're wrong on that one Alan

[missunderstood]

I really hope you're wrong on that one Alan

So do I.

[Big J R]

Farage or Putin ?????

 

Surely, that's a 'No Contest' decision ?

[cup of tea]

I'm guessing that Farage wouldn't send one of his supporters to a foreign country to poison someone with Plutonium just because he disagreed with him.

[Big J R]

I'm guessing that Farage wouldn't send one of his supporters to a foreign country to poison someone with Plutonium just because he disagreed with him.

 

 

PRECISELY !

 

Farage is a man who has his own country at his heart.

 

Putiin is a man who wants to rule the world  -  Hence, his nick-name..... 'The Devil'  !

[Eastside Urchin]

Whether he is right or wrong,farage believes that his beliefs would make Britain a better country and cares passionately about it, Putin doesn't care

[Rhodes]

I'm guessing that Farage wouldn't send one of his supporters to a foreign country to poison someone with Plutonium just because he disagreed with him.

Yes but that's a different story isn't it, Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the infamous Russian Federal Security Service who fled from Court prosecution in Russia and received Political Asylum in the UK where he had been working for MI6 and MI5 after receiving Asylum. Can you blame Russia for being unhappy with him.

[cup of tea]

I'm not questioning Farage's sincerity but in my opinion his beliefs are completely wrong and potentially damaging to the country.

Edited March 8, 2014 by cup of tea

[cup of tea]

Yes but that's a different story isn't it, Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the infamous Russian Federal Security Service who fled from Court prosecution in Russia and received Political Asylum in the UK where he had been working for MI6 and MI5 after receiving Asylum. Can you blame Russia for being unhappy with him.

 

Sorry, missed this post. What you said is correct but it doesn't justify what they did to him - and you have to say that what Alexander was saying about Putin was credible seeing his other recent actions.

[missunderstood]

Sorry, missed this post. What you said is correct but it doesn't justify what they did to him - and you have to say that what Alexander was saying about Putin was credible seeing his other recent actions.

For reasons that are unfathomable to me, many countries seem to prefer strong (cruel) leaders, and being kind and decent is all to often seen as weakness. I was lucky to have met Micheal Foot on a number of occasions, and IMO he was one of the kindest person in politics, and because of his undoubted  decency he was humiliated by the electorate who believed all the rubbish in the gutter press.

[Rhodes]

I was lucky to have met Micheal Foot on a number of occasions

Surely you mean unlucky

[Eastside Urchin]

Not exactly a political giant,I think you need someone in charge who is a bit of a bastard ,needed to make decisions that many may not like and to say fck em to those opposed to such decisions.

Aka Maggie,the Iron Lady