Basil-Don Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 SURPRISE,SURPRISE !! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25886638 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missunderstood Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Im fit for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Oh dear, I guess that puts the governments unemployed figures up the spout! Every silver lining has a cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I'm NOT getting embroiled in this argument having represented our youngest daughter at THREE HMG tribunals over the last 2 years and having won all three. Lets just leave it that there are many spongers out there, and yet the truly needy get hounded !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil-Don Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 I couldn't agree more Big JR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Oh dear, I guess that puts the governments unemployed figures up the spout! Every silver lining has a cloud. Loosely - But there were bound to be some appeals and bone idle malingerers, who haven't done a days work in their lives, holding on by their finger tips, that doesn't mean to say they are still receiving benefits which were automatically stopped as soon as they were found fit for work. The appeals process is a lengthy, long drawn out, one and includes re-applying for the stopped benefit, circumstances would have changed from the original claim so even if, in the unlikely event, an appeal is successful they wouldn't receive anywhere near to what they were getting previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Well that's of tremendous interest to someone I'm sure. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I worked most of my life in the benefits business. Has always been the same. Devise a scheme to help the deserving, and hoardes of undeserving latch on to an easy living. Trying to sort the deserving from the wasters is a huge challenge, without unduly troubling the former. Even in the 50 and 60s, continued attempts were tried to get skivers back into work, but almost every time someone was found "fit for limited work", the Employment Service sent them back, saying they were unemployable. The problem is that, unless a person is in a coma, it is possible to say that there is some work that they could do, but adding them to the unemployment statistics is not popular with any government. Socialism is a wonderful concept, to which I subscribe, but it will ALWAYS be let down by the population at large! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romford boy Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I worked most of my life in the benefits business. Has always been the same. Devise a scheme to help the deserving, and hoardes of undeserving latch on to an easy living. Trying to sort the deserving from the wasters is a huge challenge, without unduly troubling the former. Even in the 50 and 60s, continued attempts were tried to get skivers back into work, but almost every time someone was found "fit for limited work", the Employment Service sent them back, saying they were unemployable. The problem is that, unless a person is in a coma, it is possible to say that there is some work that they could do, but adding them to the unemployment statistics is not popular with any government. Socialism is a wonderful concept, to which I subscribe, but it will ALWAYS be let down by the population at large! When I worked on the 2011 census it completely changed my view of how the benefit system works, as I worked in estates where a large proportion never had any intention of putting anything back into society. I also met second and third generations of people who had never worked, and had a sense of entitlement that I found staggering. Most of them probably are unemployable because no-one in their right mind would want to employ them, and I certainly wouldn't. I don't know what the answer is, although forcing the more able to do some kind of menial work before they are given benefits may help. How this could be properly supervised though is probably the biggest question that needs answering. My position on socialism is that every child should have equal opportunities in life, and everyone that can should make a contribution to society, and those that can't should be properly looked after by the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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