New Ground

[Slough Kitman]

Obviously I'm not privy to the thoughts of the chairman or really understand the huge amount of compications with the ground, or even whether the Stoke Poges thing even affects our proposal....However, it looks likely we will be renting for some time yet.

 

If that's the case I do really worry about the long term future of the club the longer it remains out of the town. For that reason alone I would like to see us consider Wexham Park if we are to continuing renting and it was within our finances.

 

 

Then the next thing to be said is why do you need a new ground when you've got one at W/P.

 

Same old story that's been going around for years.

 

Lets forget the talk about renting else were...... WE NEED OUR OWN GROUND

[brighton_rebel]

Surely the school will appeal the decision?

[Irishadrian]

brighton _rebel Yes they can appeal to the Secretary of State If they don't then they must have had an alternative promised to them

[3spirit]

Then the next thing to be said is why do you need a new ground when you've got one at W/P.

 

Same old story that's been going around for years.

 

Lets forget the talk about renting else were...... WE NEED OUR OWN GROUND

 

Slough Kitman, every Slough fan wants the club to have a stadium of it's own.We're all fully supportive of Steve Easterbrook's efforts to make this happen and I think the fans have been incredibly patient, considering how long we have been out, of the town we're supposed to represent.

 

How long should we wait for real progression ? ie when the first brick gets laid or the first turf is laid.Another 3,6,9 months,another year,another 5 years,another 10 years?  Our fanbase will fall to even lower levels,the longer we are out of Slough. Ground sharing isn't ideal whatever ground you're at.

 

I'm with Stuntman Mark on this,that Wexham Park has one advantage over local teams,that being that it is in Slough.

Another option would to merge with a team ie Hayes and Yeading,Dagenham and Redbridge......Slough and SYCOB, Slough and Windsor or Slough and Burnham. A dreaded thought but may be our only option with the ground not forthcoming. 

[Irishadrian]

Slough Kitman The reason that same old story has been going around for years is that its totally accurate No-one can say that WP isn't suitable for the Rebels to play on It was fine for many years A return there would be more expensive but gates and income would considerably increase Its not the outcome I would most wish to see I believe we should have our own ground but I don't want any possible solution excluded because of the personal spite and malice some individuals clearly harbour for the Thornes.

[readingrebel]

Slough Kitman, every Slough fan wants the club to have a stadium of it's own.We're all fully supportive of Steve Easterbrook's efforts to make this happen and I think the fans have been incredibly patient, considering how long we have been out, of the town we're supposed to represent.

 

How long should we wait for real progression ? ie when the first brick gets laid or the first turf is laid.Another 3,6,9 months,another year,another 5 years,another 10 years?  Our fanbase will fall to even lower levels,the longer we are out of Slough. Ground sharing isn't ideal whatever ground you're at.

 

I'm with Stuntman Mark on this,that Wexham Park has one advantage over local teams,that being that it is in Slough.

Another option would to merge with a team ie Hayes and Yeading,Dagenham and Redbridge......Slough and SYCOB, Slough and Windsor or Slough and Burnham. A dreaded thought but may be our only option with the ground not forthcoming. 

 

 

Not sure our fanbase will fall to even lower levels the longer we are out of Slough.

 

Currently our supporter levels are relatively stable with a modicum of success i.e. playoffs on a regular basis. If we were a mid table to bottom team you could possibly be right but as a successful team that were top of the league I think our attendances would go up and if we were to achieve promotion I think attendances would rise also.

[3spirit]

Not sure our fanbase will fall to even lower levels the longer we are out of Slough.

 

Currently our supporter levels are relatively stable with a modicum of success i.e. playoffs on a regular basis. If we were a mid table to bottom team you could possibly be right but as a successful team that were top of the league I think our attendances would go up and if we were to achieve promotion I think attendances would rise also.

Reading Rebel, what I was getting at was that the majority of our support are older supporters that know the history of the club.

Yes,we get offspring from those and a few newbies but possible new Slough fans from the town of Slough will get less,the longer we play away from our home.

[Slough Kitman]

Slough Kitman The reason that same old story has been going around for years is that its totally accurate No-one can say that WP isn't suitable for the Rebels to play on It was fine for many years A return there would be more expensive but gates and income would considerably increase Its not the outcome I would most wish to see I believe we should have our own ground but I don't want any possible solution excluded because of the personal spite and malice some individuals clearly harbour for the Thornes.

How do you make it TOTALLY accurate, and suitable. If that's the case why did we have to leave and that hasn't changed.

As you said much more expensive, but this bit I don't get,,,,,, and income would considerably increase  From what?

As at Beaconsfield we'll only get the gate everything else goes to the Thornes.

Alan Thorne was the only one that had any interest in football his son Byron and his son have no interest at all.

Just beacuse I say W/P isn't right all of a sudden I've a personal spite and malice,  sorry crap

 

If we ever go back to W/P we will NEVER get our own ground FACT ( as said before " you've got a ground you don't need a new one " ).  and all this talk about it isn't helping at all.

Edited January 10, 2014 by Slough Kitman

[readingrebel]

How do you make it TOTALLY accurate, and suitable. If that's the case why did we have to leave and that hasn't changed.

As you said much more expensive, but this bit I don't get,,,,,, and income would considerably increase  From what?

As at Beaconsfield we'll only get the gate everything else goes to the Thornes.

Alan Thorne was the only one that had any interest in football his son Byron and his son have no interest at all.

Just beacuse I say W/P isn't right all of a sudden I've a personal spite and malice,  sorry crap

 

If we ever go back to W/P we will NEVER get our own ground FACT ( as said before " you've got a ground you don't need a new one " ).  and all this talk about it isn't helping at all.

 

 

We would get more income from increased gates but this would more than likely be eroded by the extra rent money payable to Byron Thorne.

[readingrebel]

Reading Rebel, what I was getting at was that the majority of our support are older supporters that know the history of the club.

Yes,we get offspring from those and a few newbies but possible new Slough fans from the town of Slough will get less,the longer we play away from our home.

 

 

Ah, gotcha 3spirit.

 

You mean in the medium to long term the oldies will die off and won't be replaced by the younger supporter. 

[Slough Kitman]

We would get more income from increased gates but this would more than likely be eroded by the extra rent money payable to Byron Thorne.

 NO what was said is  but gates and income would considerably increase

So I then said what income he's already said gate.

 

OH and the rest you say dead right 

Edited January 10, 2014 by Slough Kitman

[Irishadrian]

SloughKitman   Read my post again  Nowhere do I say you are one of those with a problem with the Thornes  but I know more than a few have issues  I was referring to the increased gates which would increase income also from increased program sales  raffles draws etc and I did make it clear that this is my least favourite choice but nothing imo should be ruled out.There is no reason to assume we couldn't negotiate a much better deal remember they've not had income from the football side of the business for many years It doesn't need to be on the same basis as previously

Edited January 10, 2014 by Irishadrian

[mann]

The local press is reporting that planning proper officers are recommending that permission for the continuation of the school at Pioneer House be refused  If it is then Arbour Vale must surely be under pressure again  What is the latest the club has heard? In particular what happened to the petition so many of us signed and lobbyed hard for ? the first thing

the first question is who owns this land if it is the d of education as a tax payer you must ask if they bought this land for education why all of a sudden are their plans for this site bought at great expence being  stopped by a local council  if they can tell slough b c that they have to give land why then do they not do the same to the same to south bucks unless of  course they are going down the road of its not what you know but who you know

[Slough Kitman]

SloughKitman   Read my post again  Nowhere do I say you are one of those with a problem with the Thornes  but I know more than a few have issues  I was referring to the increased gates which would increase income also from increased program sales  raffles draws etc and I did make it clear that this is my least favourite choice but nothing imo should be ruled out.There is no reason to assume we couldn't negotiate a much better deal remember they've not had income from the football side of the business for many years It doesn't need to be on the same basis as previously

The fact that you replied to my post with it in so to say I've got a problem with them. Program sales just scrape even and raffle we don't do a game day raffle. We do do a golden goal which would bring in the same amount as now. The main income would be from the bar and burger bar but that would be going to the Thorne , so as said the only winners out of W/P would be someone else again apart from the club. The only way is to get our own ground,, and bring in our own income.

SO CAN WE ALL STOP THE W/P CRAP

Edited January 11, 2014 by Slough Kitman

[GarySTFC]

That new ground seems as far away as evert bough mark and despite the best efforts of the Club and it's partners, we are treading water as a club at best whilst we are waiting. Whilst I'd welcome the discussions to take place with both Windsor and WP, I can understand that a move back to WP would be a major negative in the longer term ambition of having a ground that we own and generate income from. That said, how much of arbour park would we own and generate revenue from? There should be no reason why the club cannot talk to available parties to ensure we are getting the best deal. It is also my understanding that Byron Thorne is no longer running the park and that extensive renovations and maintenance have been done on the site overthrew. Sat six months.

 

Whilst a lot has changed at Windsor, Kevin Scott was a factor in the decline in relationship at the time but I am sure enough time has passed and with their new business model, I am sure the income would be of interest especially now we are working in a much more stable financial environment than under the guidance of Martyn Deaner.

 

SYCOB is just too far out and we are struggling to attract new support to the club whilst we are there, ground of our own or not. A winning side should be able to increase support and sponsorship despite the level of football. We are sorely missing that 15-25 year old demographic in the fan base which would really help with the atmosphere at games as well.

 

I look forward to a release from the club shortly given how quick they have been in the past in issuing statements over various matters.

[Martin]

Completely agree with everything Gary says. Being were we are is killing the club slowly. Without the 15-25 year old fans coming through there is no long term future for the club. Windsor, Maidenhead and WP would all be better in terms of location and transport links. None are as good as having a ground of our own to generate all the revenue from but whatever deal you have with the Landlord is only as good as the terms you negotiate.

[Tom]

I'd take being at a ground that doesn't finance competition in the same league, even so we should be thankful for SYCOB and their hospitality over the last few seasons.

[brighton_rebel]

Is Arbour Vale suitable for the Sikh school to move into? They won't have much time to get buildings up to scratch before September. Why would they not win their appeal to stay at Pioneer House? Has traffic brought the beautiful village of stoke poges to a standstill ? Its a bit hypocritical of Tory councillors to vote against a free school when its there government that is pushing this insane policy. I agree we need to look at the Beaconsfield groundshare - but please not Burnham! And somewhere with cover behind the goals. Finally, lets make sure we get it right. Maidstone took 20 years to get their new ground and look at them now. 2,000+ crowds and top of the Ryman premier

Edited January 11, 2014 by brighton_rebel

[Don Juan DeMarcus]

Finally, lets make sure we get it right. Maidstone took 20 years to get their new ground and look at them now. 2,000+ crowds and top of the Ryman premier

A only 5 minutes away from me as I sit.... A lot closer than marlow.... Decisions decisions...

[3spirit]

Is Arbour Vale suitable for the Sikh school to move into? They won't have much time to get buildings up to scratch before September. Why would they not win their appeal to stay at Pioneer House? Has traffic brought the beautiful village of stoke poges to a standstill ? Its a bit hypocritical of Tory councillors to vote against a free school when its there government that is pushing this insane policy. I agree we need to look at the Beaconsfield groundshare - but please not Burnham! And somewhere with cover behind the goals. Finally, lets make sure we get it right. Maidstone took 20 years to get their new ground and look at them now. 2,000+ crowds and top of the Ryman premier

 

Brighton Rebel,I think Burnham is the best option locally due to how near it is to Slough.Take Britwell for instance,large community that comes under Slough area,so has plenty of youngsters in vicinity.

 

If we ground shared with Burnham ,now they are in the league above, think it would help both sides out,financially and logistically.

 

I prefer SYCOB to Windsor.

 

Perhaps we should forget the Slough logo,if the town and council are not going to be supportive of our club and start with a totally new identity similar to what SYCOB have done.

 

We could even have the title EX Slough Town FC, thus highlighting how the authorities of the area have mis-treated us as a community club and not remove the EX, till they put us back in the town where we belong.