Message To The Moderators

[3spirit]

 

No managers or players should come on a forum like this............

Who are you to say? You're not a Slough fan. 

[Rother]

What an odd discussion.

 

Some people don't have the patience / ability / vocabulary / intelligence to post their views as anything other than "they were bloody brilliant" or "useless bunch of overpaid prima donnas" or whatever. And others from other clubs might be on a bit of a wind up. So what?

 

Yes, relentlessly negative posters are a pain in the backside but ban them? Allow only registered posters who give their real names to post?

 

Do me a favour.

 

As has been said many times, if they make your blood pressure rise / do your head in, just pit them on your ignore list (and hope nobody quotes them).

[richierebel]

I think people need to realise this is a fans forum, we all like to think we know how to run a football team but in actual fact not many of us have played much higher than Sunday league. It is in effect pub banter just not in the pub!   Do you really think that if someone on here puts such and such should play centre midfield, that our managers will read it and think OMG why didn`t I think of that? I will play him there! Everyone thinks they are a football manager or a pundit these days a fans forum is just that, it is where we as fans can express our views on the match.

 

or if one of our players has a stinker, do you think he comes on here and thinks lets see what the fans think of how i played today! oh what, hotspur says I am not as good as Tommy Langley i had better sign up for extra training this week!

As for Hotspur, I don`t have a problem with him, yes a lot of his posts are negative or try to gain a reaction or refers back to the good old days a bit too much but its got to the stage now where I look forward to seeing what he writes to see who bites first.  I mean there is now a four page post on here discussing him! our forum would be boring if everyone thought the same.  There is another way to shut him up.  Start winning games!

[Russ_Rebel]

At the end of the day people are entitled to their own opinions which is what the whole point of a forum is. The forum is unofficial and you have to register to post and I believe if you want to air your opinions you should be able to as long as they are not malicious and you should be able to post under whatever user name you wish too if the team was playing well we would all be praising the team and nothing would be said but we are playing a little poor at the moment for one reason or another and as fans we all have our own views and opinions and we bring them to forum for a discussion ,without two sides to a discussion it's not really a discussion. I personally hope the team turn things around once injuries etc clear up and the management feel they can post on here again. I'm sure in a month or so the team will be further up the table and this forum lock down talk will be no where to be seen.

Edited September 6, 2013 by Cedric

[HP9]

 

No managers or players should come on a forum like this............

I totally agree, they should not be on here as its a fans forum. They do though originally probably come on here to view the good comments when things are going well, then when things are not going well they do not like some comments one bit, which is understandable. As for the managers being on here being so open, I find it very silly because if they are constantly reading this forum trying to explain various situations before and after games they will end up feeling a lot more pressure on themselves when it's not going to plan. They obviously thought the team were much better than they are and it has back fired on them. I cannot see them making any more posts on here and thats how it should be in my opinion. Keep it for the fans not inquisitive players and managers that may get offended

Edited September 6, 2013 by HP9

[RebelsAndBlues]

I'm with Rother, what an odd discussion this is.

 

Sitting back reading this thread for the last week or so, I really find it hard to beleive that all of the posters on here are grown men.

 

No wonder the gaffers have stopped posting on here, distancing themeselves from this playground suff.

 

The way I see it (could be wrong), but most peoples comments in this thread seem to stem back / refer to Mr Hotspur.

 

Personally, when not going all uncle albert with his stories of year gone yonder, he does put in some decent (and realist) posts. 

 

The more people bait him, he will obivously (human nature) come back with a dig at the poster, then they dig back at him and it goes on (each one trying to get the better of each other / last word).

 

This has gone way beyond banter now by the looks of the tone of some of the posts. Who really gives a flying fudge who he is, how long he's been watching slough for for, wheteher he played for slough or not, whether his surname really is Davies or whether he dresses up in drag and calls himself Sarah in the weekends (as long as he does it with an amber and blue scarf on, that is all that matters, right).

 

If the sole purpose of this thread was aimed at Hotspur and maybe the new kid in town Old Ram (both with a combined age of at least 100 one would assume), yes, they should know better at their ages, but then so should EVERYONE else who bites / baits them day in, day out.

 

Human nature is to retaliate when someone has a go or say something sarcastic to you.

 

Either accept people for who they are or ignore, then redundant threads like this will stop and maybe we will see our managers back on here.

Edited September 6, 2013 by RebelsAndBlues

[PremiershipJoyRider]

As said by a previous poster I thought Jon & Neil were like a breath of fresh air when they first arrived at the club and they could not have been more different to the previous incumbent. As the results so far have not been as good as we might have expected it is bound to draw some negative comment.

However, I think we have an excellent fan base with a wide range of opinions and this is illustrated by the fact that there have also been many POSITIVE comments in support of the players and the management.

Jon & Neil may be our managers but they are essentially football "fans" who live and breathe football, and were members of this particular forum long before they became our managers.Although they are no longer posting on this website they are still reading it and I hope they can appreciate the fact that the vast majority of us really want them and the team to do well.

[Edinburgh Rebel]

I'm not sure that not allowing anonymous posters would work.  How do you prove who you are?  Some people on the forum will not be from Slough and not know other forum members.  Also, I think it has the potential to put off new members.  I agree with the idea that people might post differently if they were unable to be anonymous and it might improve the forum but I think it would be difficult for it to work in practice.

 

I'm an admin on another (non-football forum) and I can see some of the problems as well.  Guys like hotspur probably aren't breaking any rules.  The relatively small number of posters just aggravates the issue as well.  Hotspur is frustrating because he's the kind of poster who comes on here after a defeat and appears to be basically gloating about the loss.  It's hard to tell whether he is simply a negative fan or is trying to get a reaction from other members.  It's probably a bit of both.

 

Ultimately, the forum is unofficial and football forums will always have different types of opinions/posters; some positive and some negative.  It's really unfortunate if the managers aren't going to post on here anymore but I think the nature of forums means that there is always likely to be negativity from some members and certainly knee-jerk reactions to defeats.  I think online discussions simply heighten the opinions of the fans and the more extreme posts stand out more and hide the more reasonable posts.

[Jon Underwood]

I just wanted to clarify that our decision to take a break from posting on the forum is our own and was not dictated to us in any way, nor is it linked in the slightest to results/performances on the pitch. I would hope people have realised by now that we are able to post on here and give our honest views about a game no matter what the result or performance.

 

We are both really disappointed with the start we have made but we have 100% faith in the squad and belief in ourselves as managers and fully believe we will start to climb the league very soon. If this does not happen then clearly we will have to change a few things but we are not about to lose faith with just 4 league games completed.

 

Clearly it is easier for us to have that belief in these lads as we know better than anyone else what they are capable of. What we have been disappointed with however is a good number of fans who appear to have made up their minds from day one that we are not good enough and this has led to a real negativity about the place, not just on here but more crucially at matches too, and in particular at the home games. We have no problem with people having opinions (and this is exactly what the forum is for) but standing on the sidelines criticising every mistake that a player makes whilst in some cases not giving any praise to the lads when it's due is not helpful at all.

 

So back to our silence on the forum.......we both have very strong views about football and when we see comments from people that are clearly on a wind-up, and are often from people who do not want to make themselves known (and in the odd case just decide to join the forum to have a pop and stir up trouble) it is very tempting for us to bite back, whether it be to defend ourselves, our team or just to put them right. All that happens then is we waste our time arguing with faceless people and to be honest we have better things to do with our time.

 

We have always intended to interact with the real fans (and not just those that agree with us) and if anyone sees after a game and wants to chat I'd like to think we'd always give them the time of day. But for now we will not be posting on the forum and hope that people can respect that as our right. Our energies are fully focused on turning things round on the pitch and the support from all of our fans would make a real difference at this moment in time.

 

The intention of this post was not to drive a wedge between us and the fans, that is clearly the last thing we want as we should all be pulling in the same direction. However we both felt it necessary to put our view across in terms of what we have seen so far. At the same time we really appreciate the support we have had from a number of fans who clearly intend to give us a reasonable amount of time to get things right on the pitch, along with the chairman who has been first class.

 

Hopefully we will see a good number of you at Rugby tomorrow for what should be a cracking game.

[PremiershipJoyRider]

Thanks Jon and the best of luck tomorrow.

[Irishadrian]

Jon Thank you for clarifying matters  Im disappointed with your joint decision but obviously respect it  It was invaluable to know who was absent through injury or whose poor performance may have been down to carrying an injury Hopefully when you are able to play your best team for a few weeks and results improve you may both reconsider.

[hotspur]

Even though I have a few fans on here I may cut back on my helpful comments -sadly all of which have been correct ( think back to when I said Kettering were a poor side and Neil countered with no, my reports say they're a strong side or something similar-I was only trying to be helpful and it was reliable info ).I have not named a single player on here either positive or negative, other than I thought the goalie was a tad short, so you cannot lay that one at my door.

No what really bugs me are the clive t and windsor rebel type fans who have very very limited football nous and not the required brains to pretend they have!

As for the managers, it reminds me of that old presidential saying " If you cannot stand the heat stay out of the kitchen" and I guess they are going to.

[Windsor Rebel]

Even though I have a few fans on here I may cut back on my helpful comments -sadly all of which have been correct ( think back to when I said Kettering were a poor side and Neil countered with no, my reports say they're a strong side or something similar-I was only trying to be helpful and it was reliable info ).I have not named a single player on here either positive or negative, other than I thought the goalie was a tad short, so you cannot lay that one at my door.

No what really bugs me are the clive t and windsor rebel type fans who have very very limited football nous and not the required brains to pretend they have!

As for the managers, it reminds me of that old presidential saying " If you cannot stand the heat stay out of the kitchen" and I guess they are going to.

 

 

Forum moderators: so is this not classed as a personal attack?

 

Hotspur: you have a PM I strongly suggest you read it.

Edited September 6, 2013 by Windsor Rebel

[staines_rebel_Jr]

Hotspur, I hear that Manchester United are in need of a director of football. It could be perfect for you.

 

If not, since you have shown you know a few things about football at this level, why don't you offer your services to Neil and Jon as a consultant or opposition scout. It would show that you are a supporter of STFC to all those who have doubts and you only need to reveal yourself to Neil, Jon and the board (who I am sure would keep your identity a secret if you ask). plus it would only go to prove that you do know what you are talking about.

At worst you get turned down and only a select few know who you are.

[Windsor Rebel]

Gary STFC; I have sent you a PM

[hotspur]

Forum moderators: so is this not classed as a personal attack?

 

Hotspur: you have a PM I strongly suggest you read it.

It is not a personal attack at all-its just used as a reference to the type of fan on here who can't be told anything negative about the team (mainly the past teams of recent years ) even if its correct.

[Windsor Rebel]

It is not a personal attack at all-its just used as a reference to the type of fan on here who can't be told anything negative about the team (mainly the past teams of recent years ) even if its correct.

 

So calling someone brainless is not a personal attack? Anyway, you have my PM, I suggest you tread carefully

[Rother]

Jeez, somebody needs to man up a bit.

Edited September 6, 2013 by Rother

[BFR]

It is all a bit depressing that grown men on both sides of the argument choose to use this forum as a tool for playground behaviour. I'd expect better standards from my 4 year old. 

 

Hotspur - I don't understand how you get your kicks out of trolling the forum, but equally I don't know why a number of posters take the bait, time after time. Keep posting if you must, but I hope that those who can't tolerate your opinions will take the sensible option of using the ignore function if they can't digest them with a pinch of salt

 

Windsor Rebel - crying to the moderators about so called personal attacks, and then suggesting/threatening (delete as appropriate) Hotspur treads carefully is plain daft. How much time and energy have you wasted posting messages back to Hotspur? Your responses feed the troll. Stop giving him the satisfaction. 

 

While it is disappointing that the management have decided to withdraw somewhat from the forum, I'd rather they focused their energy into helping the squad to achieve performances that meet the expectations of Jon and Neil. I'll happily take less interaction from the management if the results start coming. Rugby is a big challenge and hope that the boys are up for the task on Saturday. 3 points will do wonders to lift the mood, both in the dressing room, on the terrace and maybe just maybe on here too. 

 

COYR

[A Rebel and a Saint]

I agree with you BFR, I've been reading this since it started and this is getting stupid now.  I don't blame the managers for not wishing to post on here given the childish behaviour shown by some.  If you don't like someone's opinions, just ignore them either by skipping past their posts or use the function on the web page.

It doesn't matter how many Slough games you've watched, how long you've been watching them, whether you think you're right or not, we should all be pulling in the right direction and getting behind the team even if they don't win.  If not, there's no point in some people showing up to the games. 

I try to keep my posts constructive even if there is criticism, and if it is taken any other way by a player or manager then I apologise for that.  Even if we lose I always like to look for positives.  This forum should not be for saying that the team is not very good, or not as good as some teams, or that the management are terrible and should be out the door, this is for constructive criticism which just points out any flaws in the performance.

Some people just need to grow up.

 

On a more positive note, very much looking forward to Rugby tomorrow, COYR!