Jamie Oliver: European immigrants more suited to hard work than young Brits

[Zippy]

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Jamie-Oliver-European-immigrants-suited-hard-work/story-19717191-detail/story.html

 

Does he have a point?

[Horace]

Clearly he does, or the indigenous population would already be doing the jobs that the Eastern European workers are taking! Cue response from Missunderstood!

[taffboy]

This country was made of hard working people the pit the steelworks the mills .It's not the people who are bad workers it's society that has changed.

[Zippy]

I can see where Jamie is coming from, but there are plenty of hard-working young people out there who are not given a chance.  A lot of it is 'who you know' rather than 'what you can do'.

 

Yes, there are also a lot of Wayne and Waynetta Slob type youngsters who won't work - and these ones I would force them to work or they don't get anything.  I grew up on an estate in South Wales where over 75% of people (young,middle aged and old) didn't work and didn't want to work - they are now trapped in the benefits cycle but as long as they get freebies then why should they care about the daft t0ssers like us who pay tax to keep them?

 

What needs to be done is for Cameron/Miliband/Clegg/Farage/Lucas/Griffin/whoever to come out and say 'British people come first'.  Make employment compulsory for all and anybody who refuses to work should be kicked out.  Even if you are disabled (mentally or physically) there are still jobs that you can do.  More people in work = more productivity, surely?  I've seen vacancies in Job Centres/Temp Agencies in Gloucester that have been open for months - and no, they aren't badly paid (£10.50 an hour for HR support, as an example).

 

Now for The Guardian's viewpoint...

[missunderstood]

I can see where Jamie is coming from, but there are plenty of hard-working young people out there who are not given a chance.  A lot of it is 'who you know' rather than 'what you can do'.

 

Yes, there are also a lot of Wayne and Waynetta Slob type youngsters who won't work - and these ones I would force them to work or they don't get anything.  I grew up on an estate in South Wales where over 75% of people (young,middle aged and old) didn't work and didn't want to work - they are now trapped in the benefits cycle but as long as they get freebies then why should they care about the daft t0ssers like us who pay tax to keep them?

 

What needs to be done is for Cameron/Miliband/Clegg/Farage/Lucas/Griffin/whoever to come out and say 'British people come first'.  Make employment compulsory for all and anybody who refuses to work should be kicked out.  Even if you are disabled (mentally or physically) there are still jobs that you can do.  More people in work = more productivity, surely?  I've seen vacancies in Job Centres/Temp Agencies in Gloucester that have been open for months - and no, they aren't badly paid (£10.50 an hour for HR support, as an example).

 

Now for The Guardian's viewpoint...

Is it UKIP policy to kick out out physically and mentally disabled people who refuse to work, and don't you think that Chancellor Farage should exterminate all undesirables instead of giving them expensive flight tickets. 

 

 

For the record, in my last job I worked with a large number of immigrant Poles, and their work ethic and reliability was far superior than the average young British  workers. 

[Zippy]

No, but why should you or I pay our hard earned taxes to people who cannot be @rsed to contribute to society - able bodied or not.

 

I know of plenty of people who have mental and physical health problems, and all of them work.  They don't allow their conditions to beat them - instead they carry on regardless.  Some are in voluntary jobs, but that's okay as they are helping others.

 

The fact is that kids nowadays have it easy - so easy in fact that they think 'why should I bother, life will look after me.'  Well, as Mark Twain once famously said 'the world does not owe you a living - it was here first!'  If they had to work then you'd soon see a marked change in their attitudes.

 

Exterminate!  Exterminate!

[Smudge]

Jamie Oliver is a disgrace,he has tarred every British Youth with the same brush.Can you even afford to eat in his Establishments.Open your eyes people this Country is overrun with Foreign Nationals,most earn it here,then send it home.If British Youth is not good enough for Jamie,suggest we boycott his Establishments forthwith.

[Eastside Urchin]

I think he has a point about a lot of British youngsters,not all but quite a few

[missunderstood]

I suppose it could be that British youngsters feel they don't have much of a future job wise, will never own their own property, are being saddled with huge debts because they had to pay a kings ransom for an education their parents received for nothing, and feel that the selfish society created by Thatcher has destroyed all their aspirations and dreams. I personally wouldn't want to be a young man in these troubled times, and hope they find a way to retrieve the more equatable society that I enjoyed in my youth. 

[Zippy]

I will agree that MT started the selfish society, and we do need to get out of that way of thinking.

 

I too hope for better equality and parity for all in the future.

[Eastside Urchin]

Many young people could afford to buy their own homes,just not in certain areas.

Most of my friends have moved away from Upminster because its too expensive,some put to Brentwood/Chelmsford/ Laindon etc because its a little cheaper,others further afield because its much cheaper.

I think sometimes our desire to keep up with the joneses hinders us somewhat.

If many youngsters,myself included had knuckled down from the age of 16/18 when the majority left school,saved instead of spending the money on booze,clothes,cars, fags etc etc then they would be able to buy.

I do agree its probably the hardest it's ever been to own a property but for many it is still achievable if you make the right sacrifices

[Eastside Urchin]

With regards to the "selfish society" tag,I think sometimes it's a little harsh.

Everything is overpriced,education that was once free now costs money and our country not being as rich and powerful as it once was can not afford to fund everyone's education

[missunderstood]

When I bought my first house we got tax relief on our mortgage repayments, and I don't think we paid stamp duty either. I also could have had a low rent council property within six weeks of getting married, and certainly wouldn't have had to pay the rent now paid to private landlords. We was happy to accept the benefits of the equitable society created by our parents and then just stood by and watched our childrens future decimated because of our own cowardice and greed. 

[cup of tea]

I think that the demise of a lot of council houses by Thatcher in one of her many get rich quick schemes that she had was a big mistake and the money made by buy to let landlords should be going to the exchequer instead - Nigel Lawson has recently admitted that it was a mistake and that they didn't understand the long term implications of that decision.

 

I see very few people in our offices, young or old that isn't working hard - most are terrified of losing their jobs in a difficult employment market.