The Enfield Town ULTRAS!

[Robsven]

With regards to the behaviour of supporters who may become involved with the Ultras - on entering the Queen Elizabeth II Stadium, all supporters are subject to the rules and regulations set by the club, the Football Association and the law of the land. I've made that quite clear since the day I officially formed the organisation. The Ultras will not act as a shield for anyone that may wish to flout the rules which are already in place at the club and we will certainly do our best to "police" ourselves. I have also spoken to the club to inform them of where we will stand at home games and this location will never change unless the members of the Ultras vote to do so - in which case I will inform the club.

 

I'm afraid to say that there will be bad language - mainly because the majority of adults in the world do swear from time to time - and even more so when we've had a couple of drinks and we're watching a game of football. What I will never condone, however, is any behaviour which is deemed to be threatening or intimidating to anyone - and should such incidents occur on more than one occasion, then the Ultras will be promptly disbanded.

 

BUT - I'm convinced that I won't even have to contemplate such a thing. Other than occasional swearing, I'm positive that the support from the Ultras will be good natured banter at the very worst.

 

[Arthur Salisbury]

Here are some of those excellent Clapton stickers, courtesy of Mangotsfield United's Inter Village Firm website

 

AzzaETFC01, I think we should have something on the scarves which alludes to our Ultras connection. Make it different from something we can buy in the club shop.

Mind you, this crazed sticker/scarf fantasy would probably be fairly costly, maybe we should see how the Ultras goes in its inaugural season before we start to roll out the merchandise.

[AzzaETFC01]

I got told that they get it from a website called www.ultrasshop.com that's where they got there stickers from and you can make personal scarfs from there as well and it's not that much

[Enfield United]

With regards to the behaviour of supporters who may become involved with the Ultras - on entering the Queen Elizabeth II Stadium, all supporters are subject to the rules and regulations set by the club, the Football Association and the law of the land. I've made that quite clear since the day I officially formed the organisation. The Ultras will not act as a shield for anyone that may wish to flout the rules which are already in place at the club and we will certainly do our best to "police" ourselves. I have also spoken to the club to inform them of where we will stand at home games and this location will never change unless the members of the Ultras vote to do so - in which case I will inform the club.

 

I'm afraid to say that there will be bad language - mainly because the majority of adults in the world do swear from time to time - and even more so when we've had a couple of drinks and we're watching a game of football. What I will never condone, however, is any behaviour which is deemed to be threatening or intimidating to anyone - and should such incidents occur on more than one occasion, then the Ultras will be promptly disbanded.

 

BUT - I'm convinced that I won't even have to contemplate such a thing. Other than occasional swearing, I'm positive that the support from the Ultras will be good natured banter at the very worst.

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, football brings out the devil in people which is hidden in any other walk of life. Who and where else do you get people swearing and shouting abuse together on a regular basis other than football supporters and in football grounds and surrounding area's leading to football grounds. I may be sounding naive but It somewhat amuses me that people do.

 

HOWEVER, I agree with most of your comments except that swearing out loud whether the odd or not swear word is still against the law, but accept it is unmanageable to erradicate overnight.

 

What has to be erradicated is the blunt swearing towards opposition goalkeepers, players and referee's who get targetted for just being the opposition and referee, it happens regularly and it is hugely embarrassing for those listening and indeed an act of ignorance.

 

I'm hoping to encourage lot's of children to next season's league games through the soccer school scheme which the club through it's boy's section has been running this summer which ends in July and i'm sure it'll be more attractive they experience a good atmosphere than the grumpy foul mouthed merchants we had near the end of last season.

 

The Ultra's is a very welcomed idea that can add good humour, banter, atmosphere to a good old traditional footballing atmosphere supporting their team and nothing else. Carshalton are one example of good humoured supporters but feel they let themselves down when adding heavy swear words to familiar chants. I know it can't be perfect. I also remember Noel Imber getting annoyed with the Margate Smurfs who went overboard with shouting obscenities at him instead of supporting their team.

 

Basically, a partizan Ultra's supporting ETFC is welcomed. A partizan Ultra's shouting at a cheating opponent is also ok. But to directly abuse for no reason than the ones stated is not the image i'd openly support.

[Robsven]

Enfield United - I agree with all the comments you made. I certainly won't condone any "nasty" abuse of opposition players ... especially if it's unwarranted or particularly abusive and threatening. When I said that there will be swearing - I meant in the sense of when it's casually used, perhaps because of what that particular person is used to. Take myself for example - I've been in the Army for 8 years and I do have a tendency to swear. Simply because the environment and people I work with it's generally common practice to swear when expressing anger or delight ... and anything in between  However, I can control myself and wouldn't dream of inappropriately swearing whilst eating in a restaurant or the like.

 

I stand by my point that we will do our best to police ourselves and let people know when they're taking something too far, but there is only so much control we can have over other people.

[andyetfc]

Enfield United - I agree with all the comments you made. I certainly won't condone any "nasty" abuse of opposition players ... especially if it's unwarranted or particularly abusive and threatening. When I said that there will be swearing - I meant in the sense of when it's casually used, perhaps because of what that particular person is used to. Take myself for example - I've been in the Army for 8 years and I do have a tendency to swear. Simply because the environment and people I work with it's generally common practice to swear when expressing anger or delight ... and anything in between  However, I can control myself and wouldn't dream of inappropriately swearing whilst eating in a restaurant or the like.

 

I stand by my point that we will do our best to police ourselves and let people know when they're taking something too far, but there is only so much control we can have over other people.

There is the problem. The Ultras police themselves but there will be others who will continue to swear, rant and rave and just carry on abusing players and officials.

 

Good luck with your venture.

[Robsven]

To be fair, people already consistently swear, rant, rave and abuse players and officials.

 

At least with the Ultras, we have made it clear from the onset that this sort of behaviour isn't acceptable and that we are there to produce a vociferous, positive, friendly atmosphere with good natured banter. I for one think it's funny to wind the opposition keeper up - but I don't think it's funny to call him a "F*****g c**t" because he happens to be taking a goal kick and is near our supporters.

 

Plus, I will have the moral courage (as well as encouraging others) to step up and tell people to stop such behaviour - how many people on the terraces would do that normally? Or do they listen to it for the full 90 minutes, then rush home to log onto this forum to complain about it? I know some people don't want any sort of confrontation, but someone has stand up and take control of bad behaviour if they persistently break the rules - and that's something I think I can do with the Ultras. If we get it right from the start, then the standard is set.



 

[StoneCold]

Hopefully with The Ultras in full voice for 90+ minutes this will drown out the moronic language used by some!!

[Robsven]

The Ultras facebook page has been open for just 8 days and we already have 466 members - impressive! Granted, not all of them are going to be able to turn up to games ... but if just a small percentage do show up then we'll really be able to make some noise behind the goals! 

[King Crimson]

Got to say that in all my 20+ years behind the goal with Enfield and Enfield Town I have never felt the need to swear. 

[Eastside Urchin]

I fckng do every time I watch hornchurch

[MbrunoB]

Luckily one of the people that should have known better but always wanted to start off songs with questionable language in them,  threw his toys out of the pram and hasn't been to games for a while.

[andyetfc]

Luckily one of the people that should have known better but always wanted to start off songs with questionable language in them,  threw his toys out of the pram and hasn't been to games for a while.

I suppose it's better than throwing the baby out rather than his toys!

[CD Towner]

I find it interesting that the club and committee/fans are requesting that all singing and general behaviour at games is suitable and non-offensive. They don't like swearing at games etc which I agree fully with yet the clubs official Facebook account is sending out an update abd status championing a supporters comments that contains exactly that. It's been raised before on here about this and I agree that if the club want to do things properly then small things like this should change, allowing children to run and edit these accounts shouldn't be the way forward,

[hburton28]

Fair play to you lot. It seems so far that the Enfield Ultras will not only improve the atmosphere but also improve attendences so that your club can be making more money. I hope it all goes well for you next season! I'm hoping to do a similar thing at Abingdon United in the Hellenic League albeit on a smaller scale. We already have a few fans that sing at games but if there's a real push like you've done, then I can get a few more people involved which will improve atmosphere's at games and  improve attendences which will bring in more money for the club.

[Enfield United]

I find it interesting that the club and committee/fans are requesting that all singing and general behaviour at games is suitable and non-offensive. They don't like swearing at games etc which I agree fully with yet the clubs official Facebook account is sending out an update abd status championing a supporters comments that contains exactly that. It's been raised before on here about this and I agree that if the club want to do things properly then small things like this should change, allowing children to run and edit these accounts shouldn't be the way forward,

I'd say your partly right but not absolutely right.

 

The club does not run an official Facebook site, this is run by a number of supporters who in their enthusiasm promote the club and their activities as fully and passionately as possible. I'm instructed to report by the supporters that None of the Facebook views are the views of the Club/Directors or Officials.

The swearing quoted in this particular instance is one of bravado and frustration, which is readable amongst the Facebook friends and not expressed in a vile and vulgar manner, however it is swearing but on the lower scale of the barometer in my personal view.

 

The searing which the folk find vile and vulgar is the ones directed at a single individual or two during a match day because they are the opposition and referee, using the 'C' and 'F' word willy nilly without regard of anyone near them. Their is a difference. We even have the distasteful fans who follow the ref's to the players tunnel and throw a verbal volley of abuse, it's embarrassing, unlike this quote your referring too.

 

I will pass on your comments to a couple of our Supporters who operate the Facebook site under the Enfield Town FC name accordingly, so as to be aware, now that's caring and a step in the right direction, albeit like you say a minor one.

[Arkwright]

If you want scarves made then I'm quite happy to sort that out, plus the profit will come to our club.

[AzzaETFC01]

Ultras now have there own website thanks to Neil Avey check it our it might be a bit bare at the moment but it will fill up during the season have a look now http://www.enfieldtownultras.co.uk