RIP Margaret Thatcher

[Loose]

Maggie Thatcher was the greatest Prime Minister ever and April 8th should become a Bank Holiday.

 

Greater than Churchill? Who was admittedly a war time prime minister.

[missunderstood]

Clem Atlee for me was the best, and in my lifetime Blair was the worst, followed closely by Thatcher.

[The Mayor Of Simpleton]

I was born in 1985, so would probably have to say that in my lifetime she was the best of the Prime Ministers.

 

Major - A grey man, didn't seem an inspiring PM, yet he's spoken more well about now than he is criticised.

 

Blair - I could not hate a person more than this odious ex leader.

 

Brown - Finished the rotten job started by New Labour - stole from the pension pots and left the UK with nothing, Useless from start to finish.

 

Cameron - Not the best, but not yet the worst. Possibly made mistakes with austerity but too soon to judge him legacy-wise.

[The Mayor Of Simpleton]

Greater than Churchill? Who was admittedly a war time prime minister.

 

Churchill - the best leader we've had to date IMO.

 

His 'We Shall Fight On The Beaches' speech is nothing short of fantastic and makes me proud to be British.

[The Mayor Of Simpleton]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22078110

 

Latest on Sports Tributes to Margaret Thatcher.

[cup of tea]

Can't see that being adhered to by the crowds (not saying that's right or wrong) - expect booing if that's asked for

[Eastside Urchin]

Churchill was simply a leader of the forces,not a country ,he was there to win a war not up restructure a country after it.Not sure they ever got that right ,even 25/30 years after.

[Loose]

Churchill was simply a leader of the forces,not a country ,he was there to win a war not up restructure a country after it.Not sure they ever got that right ,even 25/30 years after.

 

Yes that is true. Although I think Thatcher is admired most by her supporters for the tough unflinching choices she made. My point would be that Churchill made much tougher choices such as knowing about the bombing raid on Coventry because we had Enigma and yet doing nothing to warn or evacuate in case it tipped our hand to the Germans. Alongside this of course the two were both inspirational speakers but I make Churchill the more so.

[missunderstood]

Yes that is true. Although I think Thatcher is admired most by her supporters for the tough unflinching choices she made. My point would be that Churchill made much tougher choices such as knowing about the bombing raid on Coventry because we had Enigma and yet doing nothing to warn or evacuate in case it tipped our hand to the Germans. Alongside this of course the two were both inspirational speakers but I make Churchill the more so.

 

How sad and indicative that politicians are all to often judged by their ability to be inspirational speakers and not on their deeds. Churchill was an inspirational speaker, but probably not as good as Hitler, and because of his undoubted skills as an speaker of the highest order millions of innocent lives were lost.

 

My unbiased opinion of Thatchers speaking skills was that she was rather wooden.

[Loose]

How sad and indicative that politicians are all to often judged by their ability to be inspirational speakers and not on their deeds. Churchill was an inspirational speaker, but probably not as good as Hitler, and because of his undoubted skills as an speaker of the highest order millions of innocent lives were lost.

 

My unbiased opinion of Thatchers speaking skills was that she was rather wooden.

 

Well Alan, I only mention it as a point because when Churchill told people they had to eat sh1t and like it the people at least felt that it was a shared and desired goal. Not that that was his strongest point but in comparison that the two were alike. Churchill was a brilliant historian and a devoted one, not least studying his illustrious ancestors war successes and because of this as a prime minister and before was a more than able tactician both on the home front and war theatres. I just wish you didn't have to be so po faced all the time in your political dislike of anyone who wasn't staunchly socialist.

[Savagebee]

There will be loads of people happy she is dead and who can blame them.

[RalphC]

Churchill - the best leader we've had to date IMO.

 

His 'We Shall Fight On The Beaches' speech is nothing short of fantastic and makes me proud to be British.

Churchill was very mush hated by many at the time.

[RalphC]

I said you seem envious of the benefits that union achieve for their members, and I believe most sane people would describe Thatcherism as a cult and would think calling trade unions cults ridiculous.

 

Are you a great wind up merchant Ralph, or are you really just incredibly stupid?

 

That is the problem, many involved in cults such as Jehovah's Witnesses will deny that they are involved in a cult. Membership of a union has many similar features.

 

The only stupid person is the one you spot every morning in the bathroom mirror

[missunderstood]

That is the problem, many involved in cults such as Jehovah's Witnesses will deny that they are involved in a cult. Membership of a union has many similar features.

 

The only stupid person is the one you spot every morning in the bathroom mirror

 

Twat

[Eastside Urchin]

Oh look,typical leftie,gets abusive when he has nothing left to say

[BUFC]

Churchill was an inspirational speaker, but probably not as good as Hitler,

 

I quite liked Hitler.......was he a Socialist?

[BUFC]

I do remember the UK before MT came in.

. I REMEMBER the power cuts, and the rubbish piling up in the streets, and dead people not being buried, and the 3 day working week, I remember her allowing people to start their own businesses more easily and buy shares, and buy their council houses , I remember her and President Reagan bringing about the end of the Cold War and the threat of Nuclear Armageddon ( we used to watch ads on how to survive a nuclear attack by Soviet Russia, thats what you call kids T.V.) , I remember her putting a stop to Union Barons calling strikes at will, even though the workers didn't want to strike , often bringing the country to a grinding halt so shops ran out of bread, and garages ran out of petrol etc and I remember her telling Europe to keep their hands off OUR money. All I know is that for all her faults , of which their were many, I dread to think what would have happened to this country if she hadn't been their at the time, because there wasn't a man in the Kingdom who could grab this country by the scruff of the neck, drag if off its knees, slap it round the face a few times, and tell it to go and make money.

[missunderstood]

. I REMEMBER the power cuts, and the rubbish piling up in the streets, and dead people not being buried, and the 3 day working week, I remember her allowing people to start their own businesses more easily and buy shares, and buy their council houses , I remember her and President Reagan bringing about the end of the Cold War and the threat of Nuclear Armageddon ( we used to watch ads on how to survive a nuclear attack by Soviet Russia, thats what you call kids T.V.) , I remember her putting a stop to Union Barons calling strikes at will, even though the workers didn't want to strike , often bringing the country to a grinding halt so shops ran out of bread, and garages ran out of petrol etc and I remember her telling Europe to keep their hands off OUR money. All I know is that for all her faults , of which their were many, I dread to think what would have happened to this country if she hadn't been their at the time, because there wasn't a man in the Kingdom who could grab this country by the scruff of the neck, drag if off its knees, slap it round the face a few times, and tell it to go and make money.

 

The whole post copied word for word from the Echo. Reasonably well written but the content was purile rubbish IMO.

[Eastside Urchin]

Doesn't matter where it was copied from,every single word of it is correct

[The Mayor Of Simpleton]

This seems to be the general thought of fans from one of the communities that felt the effects of Thatcherism the most - South Wales:

 

 

'We would have been demonised in exactly the same way as those totally innocent Liverpool fans were. If we are thinking of holding a minute's silence this weekend, then it should be in solidarity with those fans and family members, who will be doing the same thing at Liverpool's ground, for the 96.

 

Unlike them she didn't die alone, lying on a football pitch in the cold, waiting for doctors and ambulances that were never going to arrive in time to do any good.

 

No, she died in the Ritz Hotel, in a suite which cost £3,650 a night and enjoyed it for 96 nights! How ironic that it coincides precisely with the number of people who died at Hillsborough.

 

They paid with their lives, while her bill at the Ritz of £350,400 was paid by those who were grateful to her for making them multi millionaires.'