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[Rebadiah Hongfield]

Rebadiah Hongfield - Yes, I have raised this with him on a number of occasions previously and am quite surprised the League allows it

 

Rhodes, often the victim, but talking sense on this one.

[Loose]

This forum is for football fans, more specifically for fans of the SSML and PTG qualifies as both. Never seen him say anything that would bring him into conflict with the league or the FA and I have no doubt whatsoever that that will always be the case. IMO the forum is richer for his contributions and it certainly doesn't need to lose a good poster. Kindly find another axe to grind.

[Rebadiah Hongfield]

In this forum, will he read posts he doesn't like or agree with (like you have just done with me)? Will he then form an opinion on this person (sometimes a manager of a club!) or the club they are associated with? Maybe. Could it effect his mind frame in games or decisions he makes? Maybe.

 

Forum may be richer for it in your opinion. But games he referees in, not neccessarily richer for it.

[Rhodes]

Never seen him say anything that would bring him into conflict with the league or the FA and I have no doubt whatsoever that that will always be the case.

Loosely – I’m not so sure about that and anyway, as Rebaddiah Hongfield rightly points out, there’s no need for it and the best thing an Official can do during a game is go unnoticed, as he says that should carry on away from the game as it can lead to opinions being formed on Clubs, Managers and Players which isn't healthy

[petethegreek]

 

 

Rhodes, often the victim, but talking sense on this one.

 

Is this the same Rhodes who posted comments on here and had his then Club Kentish Town answering to a charge by their County FA?

[Rebadiah Hongfield]

Is this the same Rhodes who posted comments on here and had his then Club Kentish Town answering to a charge by their County FA?

 

God knows, haven't been on here long enough to know about all his previous posts. I'm saying he's talking sense on this subject.

[Loose]

In this forum, will he read posts he doesn't like or agree with (like you have just done with me)? Will he then form an opinion on this person (sometimes a manager of a club!) or the club they are associated with? Maybe. Could it effect his mind frame in games or decisions he makes? Maybe.

 

Forum may be richer for it in your opinion. But games he referees in, not neccessarily richer for it.

 

Why shouldn't he form opinions based on what he reads? PTG may be an official but to him that entails complete belief in fair play on the field. An official doesn't bring personal bias into a game, that is gospel for referees.

[Jonno]

In this forum, will he read posts he doesn't like or agree with (like you have just done with me)? Will he then form an opinion on this person (sometimes a manager of a club!) or the club they are associated with? Maybe. Could it effect his mind frame in games or decisions he makes? Maybe.

 

Forum may be richer for it in your opinion. But games he referees in, not neccessarily richer for it.

 

No different to a premier league referee reading a story in a newspaper or reading tweets from players.

 

What are you actually saying here? PTG shouldn't interact with people on here or he shouldn't READ posts, full stop. Anybody can access this forum and read what is written, the only difference with PTG is he has a user profile on here. I'd bet that there are lots of SSMFL refs ands linesmen who read what is out on here.

[Rhodes]

I’m saying he’s talking sense on this subject

Thanks, he also has, in my opinion, an ‘unhealthy’ relationship with Haringey Borough and lives a stones throw from Coles Park

[Rebadiah Hongfield]

No different to a premier league referee reading a story in a newspaper or reading tweets from players.

 

What are you actually saying here? PTG shouldn't interact with people on here or he shouldn't READ posts, full stop. Anybody can access this forum and read what is written, the only difference with PTG is he has a user profile on here. I'd bet that there are lots of SSMFL refs ands linesmen who read what is out on here.

 

My problem isn't what he reads, like you say, a premier leagure ref can pick up a paper. It's all that goes on in a forum, we all know we don't just read posts and leave comments and that's that. We get into heated debates on here, form opinions on people and clubs, make firends, make enemies in some cases, we socially interact. A ref socially interacting with a manager doesn't sit too well with me and I think this could effect his performance in games associated with certain people on here. A ref should go into a game with the best chance of being completely neutral and being on here doesn't help that. I know if I was a manager of a team, I'd rather have a ref who's not on this forum, than a ref who has been having banter with the opposition's manager on a forum.

 

I'm just saying he's putting himself at a bit of a disadvantage by being on here. Just my opinion and it's on referees, not him personally, he comes across as one of the nicer people on this forum and I didn't even know he was a ref until today.

[Rhodes]

I’d rather have a ref who’s not on this forum, than a ref who has been having banter with the opposition’s manager on a forum

I think that says it all

[Rebadiah Hongfield]

Why shouldn't he form opinions based on what he reads? PTG may be an official but to him that entails complete belief in fair play on the field. An official doesn't bring personal bias into a game, that is gospel for referees.

 

He shouldn't form opinions on here as it could effect what he's like in games. If he was a fan it'd be fine, but he has to referee these teams, he's in charge of games for them which can put them through in a cup, relegate them, promote them, etc. If someone from let's say, Harefield, posts on here all the time and is a complete idiot and is constantly victimising PTG, PTG might eventually start to associate hatred of this character with a hatred of Harefield and want to see them do bad. He then has the chance to give decisions against them in games. It's dodgy territory for me. We can all say what we like on these forums but we'll never have the chance to influence what happens on a pitch with refereeing decisions, but he does.

 

I disagree with your statement "An official doesn't bring personal bias into a game, that is gospel for referees." A referee SHOULDN'T bring personal bias into the game. But I imagine it happens in some cases.

[Loose]

He shouldn't form opinions on here as it could effect what he's like in games. If he was a fan it'd be fine, but he has to referee these teams, he's in charge of games for them which can put them through in a cup, relegate them, promote them, etc. If someone from let's say, Harefield, posts on here all the time and is a complete idiot and is constantly victimising PTG, PTG might eventually start to associate hatred of this character with a hatred of Harefield and want to see them do bad. He then has the chance to give decisions against them in games. It's dodgy territory for me. We can all say what we like on these forums but we'll never have the chance to influence what happens on a pitch with refereeing decisions, but he does.

 

I disagree with your statement "An official doesn't bring personal bias into a game, that is gospel for referees." A referee SHOULDN'T bring personal bias into the game. But I imagine it happens in some cases.

 

I think you'll find that PTG has a thicker skin than you think. You've been here as you say 5 minutes and you are deciding who shouldn't be here. That is odd in my opinion.

 

As already said if you think this forum isn't already read bu plenty of league and FA officials who can freely form any opinion they want then you are sadly mistaken, I know at least 6 who do.

 

Officials base decisions on what they see on the pitch not what they read from some tw@t on this or any other forum. That's probably why not everyone is suited to being an FA official. They usually weed out the thin skinned at a very early stage or along the way.

 

If you have any complaints about an FA official please make sure that you have your proof ready when making said complaint.

 

Meanwhile, let's move on eh, plenty of other tw@ts in the game more worthy of mention?

[Rebadiah Hongfield]

I think you'll find that PTG has a thicker skin than you think. You've been here as you say 5 minutes and you are deciding who shouldn't be here. That is odd in my opinion.

 

As already said if you think this forum isn't already read bu plenty of league and FA officials who can freely form any opinion they want then you are sadly mistaken, I know at least 6 who do.

 

If you have any complaints about an FA official please make sure that you have your proof ready when making said complaint.

 

Meanwhile, let's move on eh, plenty of other tw@ts in the game more worthy of mention?

 

It's not as simple as me coming on and then saying who shouldn't be on here, I'm just pointing out I was a little surprised to see a ref on here having banter with managers and fans. It's not like I want kick people off the forum, just found it a bit strange and a little unproffesional. If Fergie was on a forum about the Premier League and Howard Webb was on the same forum interacting, there'd be national uproar if people found out!! As far as the 6 refs you know that read stuff on here, that's different, there's no interaction there, they're just bystanders and I don't see a problem with that as much.

 

I just know that players have a bit of a dislike to referees who are seen having a laugh with players and managers of the other team (and this is a version of that), it gives the wrong impression. They'll imediately jump on that situation if decision is given against them (wrong or right).

 

I'm not making a complaint, out to offend anyone or being specific like Rhodes saying he has a relationship with Haringey, in truth I don't even know if I've ever seen a game PTG has refereed or not (chances are I have). I'm just voicing my opinion that I don't think it's the best idea a referee being on here and I think it's a fair one.

[petethegreek]

Thanks, he also has, in my opinion, an ‘unhealthy’ relationship with Haringey Borough and lives a stones throw from Coles Park

 

I will go through the motions of asking you to elaborate.

 

Off you go then, explain the nonsense that is your post.

[Rebadiah Hongfield]

I will go through the motions of asking you to elaborate.

 

Off you go then, explain the nonsense that is your post.

 

don't get dragged into it my friend

[Loose]

being specific like Rhodes saying he has a relationship with Haringey

 

You are free to have opinions of course but be careful when trying to link truth with our Rhodesy. None of us pay much attention to his "truths", his last brush with truth was probably around the time Geoff Hurst last scored a goal for England.

[petethegreek]

don't get dragged into it my friend

 

Should I seek your permission before posting a reply to your post?

[Part Time Par]

don't get dragged into it my friend

 

It was you who dragged him into it!

 

I know many match officials who look at these forums, some probably even post on them.

 

As Jonno has said, PTG is the only who has the balls to say who he is. NEVER controversial, if he can't answer because of restrictions he says so, can't see a problem myself

[JamieSE]

It's not as simple as me coming on and then saying who shouldn't be on here, I'm just pointing out I was a little surprised to see a ref on here having banter with managers and fans. It's not like I want kick people off the forum, just found it a bit strange and a little unproffesional. If Fergie was on a forum about the Premier League and Howard Webb was on the same forum interacting, there'd be national uproar if people found out!! As far as the 6 refs you know that read stuff on here, that's different, there's no interaction there, they're just bystanders and I don't see a problem with that as much.

 

I just know that players have a bit of a dislike to referees who are seen having a laugh with players and managers of the other team (and this is a version of that), it gives the wrong impression. They'll imediately jump on that situation if decision is given against them (wrong or right).

 

I'm not making a complaint, out to offend anyone or being specific like Rhodes saying he has a relationship with Haringey, in truth I don't even know if I've ever seen a game PTG has refereed or not (chances are I have). I'm just voicing my opinion that I don't think it's the best idea a referee being on here and I think it's a fair one.

 

Like everyone else you are entitled to your opinion.

But the strength of a referees performance is reflected in his marks.

 

I understand what point you are trying to make, but if there was any ongoing biased opinion/decision making etc taking place, then that would reflect in the marks gained for that official.

 

I can see what point you are trying to make, but it's incorrect.