Smudge Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Having perused 100's of Football Websites over the past few years,does it tell you anything about individual Clubs/Leagues. Those on the up,it seems to me are up to date almost daily,whilst others are out of date.Some do not even have any recent information.I know twitter is the latest preference of communication for many Clubs,will websites become defunct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomaya Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 It does appear that websites are becoming less and less important and I'm not too surprised that twitter is becoming king, for several reasons, mainly the fact that it's quicker and easier to update and check, faster to load on mobile devices. I see that the Sussex-based Nomad forum is closing at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor Of Simpleton Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I certainly don't think websites for clubs are on the way out, and Pitchero websites are certainly very handy for the less 'tech savvy' who haven't the time to build a site up from scratch. Twitter is convenient, but surely most fans would go to a website first for information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 I certainly don't think websites for clubs are on the way out, and Pitchero websites are certainly very handy for the less 'tech savvy' who haven't the time to build a site up from scratch. Twitter is convenient, but surely most fans would go to a website first for information? UKFF is one of the worst around Adam,no one tech savvy there then.Looks so amateurish,for such a venture,no phone numbers for starters,poor grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubby Brown Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Not for the first time but I disagree with you Simple Mayor!! This season I have barely visited a club website directly as I am able to obtain all the necessary information I need from Twitter which is the easiest and most convenient source. Agree that sometimes a twitter link will occasonally take me to the website, for example, if I wanted to read a match report. Personally I can see social media expanding further in the years to come and websites will not be used as frequently as they once were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor Of Simpleton Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 That's fair enough, Chubby, we're all entitled to our opinions. The one thing that does irk me about websites is the ones that are hardly ever or never updated. It's surely not that hard to update a site two/three times a week? Don't forget, not everybody has Twitter or Facebook, so club websites at least for the next few years will in my opinion still be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I certainly don't think websites for clubs are on the way out, and Pitchero websites are certainly very handy for the less 'tech savvy' who haven't the time to build a site up from scratch. Twitter is convenient, but surely most fans would go to a website first for information? Websites are hard to keep really up to date, far better to post time sensitive information on Twitter and FaceAche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Being a little bit older than most posters on here,new technology baffles me a bit.Can I Find directions to games,last seasons results,League Tables,player statistics,etc on twitter,or is it a bit like Fish and Chip wrappings,here today gone tomorrow?Good for instant information though,I must agree,Bomaya's Club info is very helpful,for latest scores etc on twitter.Does the person who tweets,have to pay for the priviledge of tweeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Twitter is free and you do not need an account to view someone's tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Baker Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Have to agree that twitter is brilliant for getting updates on games on/off scores etc, and when I am watching games midweek I tend to keep up to date with what is happening elsewhere, is almost like having my own Sky Soccer Weekend with all the score updates coming in... However i still think websites are important, but as you say only for the teams that update them regularly. From our perspective I think we have one of the best websites around at step four, with everything up to date, pictures, videos, interviews stats etc... And Nick Mitchell who does ours has done a great job,having said that there are probably only 8 or 9 websites in our league that I check on, as a lot are not that up to date..... Love sites with active forums hence why I always keep an eye on this forum (you can tell i work in an office)however the trolls on it are getting worse which is a shame..... As some of the threads have got a bit tedious, but you have to sift through the rubbish sometimes, and you do find some informative posts and good information... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carthorse Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Real shame if Nomad is closing at the end of the season had some great chats! on that over the years. When I did Horleys web site use to spend hours updating but this season somebody else took it on and now its not been updated since October real shame. The twitter side is great for result and little bits of information but no good for match reports, histrory who's who etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 It would be nice for me to be able to expand the sites here - http://www.nonleague.co.uk/leagues/_/combined-counties/ for example is Combined Counties - the problem though is the old one of not enough time! Websites take man hours to both develop and then keep up to date and they also end up costing money, which is also not an endless commodity. We have the ability to show as much information as is wanted on any non league club - but it all needs entering and I just do not have the time to do that 24/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beano Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Websites are hard to keep really up to date, far better to post time sensitive information on Twitter and FaceAche. True, but you can't squeeze directions to a ground into 140 characters. You can post a link to the directions page on the website... There's a balance to be struck. It's taken me the best part of five years to get Ashford's website to where it is now, and I am concerned that if I stop helping the club with it, it will go into serious decline because, as Ian W says, it takes a lot of man hours to maintain sites properly. Carthorse makes a good point on that front too. There is a team of people working on it now, which helps in certain respects. Twitter is very useful, and I used it to get the half-time scores when I did the tannoy at Ashford, but it's a complimentary tool, not a replacement for a good website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewcenary Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Web sites good for: * General club info, history etc. * How to get there ! * Who's who ? * Match reports Twitter good for: * Real-time updates on match day. * General chat and banter about the league and fixtures. * 'Vibe' from players on upcoming games (not always revealed by the web site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E&E Rich Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Agree with both the above two posts. I believe there is still a case for both, but also agree that a non-updated website is worse than none at all. This was why we made a change a few years back. Our webmaster produced a good site, but the only drawback was that he was the only one who could contribute to it and if he was away or his computer went down we were stuffed. We moved to pitchero for a number of reasons, but it has to be said I didn't want to at first as I thought we'd be better with a more individual site. I have since totally reversed my opinion, and the more clubs that join pitchero mean that you know all the stuff is in the same place (more or less) for the clubs in our league that use it. As for whether the website has had its day, who knows, as technology moves so quickly. I hope not though, as I browse many websites (careful now!) for reference purposes and am in the process of creating a massive site for the Epsom history. I find there are some great sites out there, Hendon's greensnet site and Andy Vaughan's archive on the Camberley site are good examples where there is plenty of historical data which in turn helps other clubs who are creating our own histories. Long may they continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomaya Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I only really use websites to check on how to get to a ground. Sometimes even that info isn't great or easily found and I end up usnig wikipedia/google maps or one of the many groundhopper sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_W Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I only really use websites to check on how to get to a ground. Sometimes even that info isn't great or easily found and I end up usnig wikipedia/google maps or one of the many groundhopper sites. Our team pages should all be accurate as to the location for each club, along with a google map. The dropdown in the footer, will take you to each club page quickly. If any are wrong, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E&E Rich Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 On that subject, has anyone tried changing something on wikipedia? What a hassle. Our club history is wrong and plain out of date on there with exception of a couple of small bits. I added our up to date history and over the last three - six months have had it rejected twice because it isn't verifiable and can I provide independent verification to support it. I created the damn thing! I wrote the history book, am the club historian, and have all the evidence. Will they change it though? Use wikipedia with caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomaya Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I correct wiki all the time Fred and never seem to have any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Wikipedia will normally not let you just reference the clubs site. Sometimes you can get away with it, depends on how has that page under a close eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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