Nightmare Scenario.

[Smudge]

No, more likely to get relegated if they don't have the minimum 50 seats in covered accommodation required to retain Step 6 .

 

 

2. SPECTATOR FACILITIES

2.1 Spectator Accommodation

Development, other than hard standing, may all be on one side of the ground.

Covered accommodation, which should preferably be on 2 sides of the ground, must be of sound

construction of timber/steel/brick/concrete or any combination of these materials. Existing timber

stands are only acceptable subject to a fire risk assessment conducted by a competent person.

The minimum covered accommodation must be 100, of which at least 50 must be seated and located

in one stand. Whilst individual seats are preferred, bench seating may be permitted provided that it is

in good repair and that individual spaces (min 500mm) are clearly marked.

The 50 seats must afford a good view of the pitch and be clean, functional and in good condition.

 

Does the Ground have to be enclosed on all sides though?

[VPCTFC]

Does the Ground have to be enclosed on all sides though?

 

It's one of those FA rules that says 'must' in one place and 'may be exempt' in another. No wonder there are so many appeals!

The boundary doesn't have to be solid until you get to step 4. To get promoted from step 6 you need -

 

"1.4 Boundary of Ground

The ground must be enclosed by a permanent boundary. As a general rule, the minimum height, when

measured from outside the ground, should be 1.83 metres. It should be noted that at higher grades (E

and above) the boundary fence should be of a construction to prevent viewing from outside the

ground.

In certain circumstances one or two sides of the ground, where it adjoins private land/property, may

be exempt from the need for a permanent boundary."

Edited September 11, 2012 by VPCTFC

[Smudge]

So how did Guernsey get promoted then? A wire fence constitutes a boundary?

Edited September 11, 2012 by Smudge

[VPCTFC]

I've not been to Guernsey so don't know what's actually there but at steps 5, 6 and 7 a wire fence is acceptable as a boundary.

[The Mayor Of Simpleton]

Shortage of suitable applicants for promotion?

 

A bit like the Hellenic - they were desperate to move my nearest side Tuffley Rovers up to Division 1 West, but the Gloucester County League only put Cribbs Life forward for promotion.

 

Guernsey applied and got in because their ground was fit for purpose (bar a few things Smudge mentions) - it has a big stand and floodlights as well as proper club/bar facilities. I guess that if Hillingdon apply for promotion this season, they would be considered as they have lights at the athletics track they play at?

[The Mayor Of Simpleton]

Most Step 5/6 grounds I've seen are railed off with at least one stand, but a wire fence is acceptable - not a rope one though!

 

Also, how many gates does Guernsey's ground have? I think that at Step 4 you have to have a minimum of two working gates/turnstiles.

[VPCTFC]

If there's a shortage of suitable applicants then no teams get promoted and teams in the division above get reprieved. It's happened in the CCL when only one or two sides have been able to come up out of the top three in Division 1.

Every promotion and relegation in the National League System (basically step 1 to step 7) has to be cleared by the FA as it's their system. The individual leagues don't have much say on anything anymore. If leagues have a problem with it then there's a simple solution - they can resign from the NLS and be a stand alone league much like the Suburban League and Amateur Leagues around London.

Edited September 11, 2012 by VPCTFC

[HKP]

No turnstiles but two gates that I have seen.

[GD The Fall Guy]

This ground assessing is all a bit vague and should be made clearer by the FA

 

 

[VPCTFC]

Most Step 5/6 grounds I've seen are railed off with at least one stand, but a wire fence is acceptable - not a rope one though!

 

There's a difference between the pitch perimeter barrier and the boundary of the ground.

Rope is allowed at step 7 for the pitch but no higher.

[VPCTFC]

This ground assessing is all a bit vague and should be made clearer by the FA

 

When assessors go to a ground they are very specific in telling clubs what they have to do. They also include things that aren't mentioned in the grading documents that are on the FA website. Basically you do what they say or you fail the grading.

Edited September 11, 2012 by VPCTFC

[HKP]

This ground assessing is all a bit vague and should be made clearer by the FA

I agree to an extent, but I think what the FA try to do is to allow some common sense. For example if you had a large private building on one side of the ground where nobody could see in, it woud be a bit silly to have to erect a wall etc.

[The Mayor Of Simpleton]

Common sense??

 

FA??

 

In the same sentence!

 

Made I larf!

[Smudge]

Dinosaurs would be about right ADAM

[GD The Fall Guy]

 

When assessors go to a ground they are very specific in telling clubs what they have to do. They also include things that aren't mentioned in the grading documents that are on the FA website. Basically you do what they say or you fail the grading.

 

It does seem though there are different rules for one club to another. This rule saying you don't have to meet ground grading rules because you have been around x amount of years is ludicrous ! The rules should be the rules and that's that.

 

I'm not in anyway saying GFC are a special case in anyway and we should be treated as all other clubs of coarse. If we don't get the ground upgraded in time it is our own fault.

 

 

[Smudge]

The rules are the same for everyone,follow them or face the consequences.Ask Who City,V.C.D.Athletic whether they showed them any favours.

[GD The Fall Guy]

The rules are the same for everyone,follow them or face the consequences.Ask Who City,V.C.D.Athletic whether they showed them any favours.

 

I'm not asking for favours, read the post properly

 

 

[HKP]

I thought the assumption made in the Guernsey Press that clubs with "grandfather" rights were exempt had been showing to be untrue?

[VPCTFC]

This rule saying you don't have to meet ground grading rules because you have been around x amount of years is ludicrous !

 

There is no such rule in any league in the UK.

[Smudge]

I'm not asking for favours, read the post properly

 

Your thicker than I thought,did I not say 'Who City and VCD Athletic any favours'where were you mentioned?