Smudge Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Anyone heard anymore on the following. Guernsey FC Ground, after the inspection regards Ground Grading,by the F.A. Guernsey FC alledged Complaint about Croydons behaviour whilst visiting the Island. Molesey Gound improvements,latest updates Just seen on the Westfield Website that their game against Worcester Park on the 15th September,has been moved to Colliers Wood on the 11th September,due to Environmental Issues at Worcester Parks ground. The CCL Committee meeting to discuss Guernsey FCTV,WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey local Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Re the GFC ground, according to today's paper they are definitely looking at staying at footes lane and have been looking into the fencing issue. Nothing was definite though an I think they just want confirmations from all involved (FA as there is still no clear indication of what is needed, states of guernsey who I assume own it, the rugby/athletics clubs who share it and the environment/planning departments) as to what will be done. Story here: http://www.thisisguernsey.com/sport/2012/09/04/were-staying-put/ I think £50k for a wooden fence and up to 3 times as much for a block one were the figures mentioned in the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Yes the States of Guernsey own Footes Lane, those figures are the ones quoted in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regan Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I think they just want confirmations from all involved (FA as there is still no clear indication of what is needed) Yeah... about that. Don't hold your breath for an answer. And don't expect that answer to be the same come 31st March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey local Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Yeah... about that. Don't hold your breath for an answer. And don't expect that answer to be the same come 31st March. You would think there would be set standards but apparently not from your comment. The guernsey press was saying that it was unfair we had to upgrade our ground when others in the league didn't due to 'grandfathering rules' because they've been in the league so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 One key fact is that the Ground be enclosed,on all sides to a minimum of 2 metres in height.Must have 2 lighted turnstiles in case segregation is needed.Cannot for the life of me see why Guernsey FC have not contacted Guernsey FA,to get the info they need,not as though it is miles away.Hope Guernsey is not like the U.K.where Athletic Clubs do not give the greatest help to Football Clubs as far as alterations are concerned.Reason they were their First. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPCTFC Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 You would think there would be set standards but apparently not from your comment. The guernsey press was saying that it was unfair we had to upgrade our ground when others in the league didn't due to 'grandfathering rules' because they've been in the league so long. I haven't seen the article but it sounds like sloppy, uneducated journalism. Nothing surprising there then. Every ground at step 5 in the country has to have at least an 'F' grade apart from teams who've come up this season who have until March 31st to get an 'F'. The various step 5 leagues have had to relegate clubs who don't meet the grading over the past few years. I think Sussex were the last to 'cleanse' their top division of grounds that didn't have an 'F'. The problem with the ground grading documents is that they can be interpreted in different ways. They are too many words like 'should', 'may be acceptable' etc. in them. Because of this the FA started to revisit every step 5 ground in the country that hadn't been graded in the past three years. the aim was to make sure the gradings were done consistently between leagues. Quite a few CCL teams were graded but everything seems to have gone quiet so I don't know if the FA scrapped the scheme before it was finished due to their 'suggestion' of twelve leagues at step 5 not going through. There is a 'grandfathering' rule at step 6. The reason is that it's only recently the FA have decided to enforce the grading at that level countrywide. The various step 6 divisions were given deadlines to ensure all their members had the grading or be relegated. The Combined Counties deadline is this season so teams may get relegated this year from Division One if they haven't got the grading. I think the Hellenic League has the same deadline. Most other step 6 leagues in the country implemented the 'G' grading a few years ago. The only league that has a deadline beyond this season is the Kent Invicta League but that's only in its second season of existence. The clubs in that have three more years to get the grading. So no, it's not unfair on Guernsey at all. You're in exactly the same boat as every other step 5 club in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor Of Simpleton Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I haven't seen the article but it sounds like sloppy, uneducated journalism. Nothing surprising there then. Every ground at step 5 in the country has to have at least an 'F' grade apart from teams who've come up this season who have until March 31st to get an 'F'. The various step 5 leagues have had to relegate clubs who don't meet the grading over the past few years. I think Sussex were the last to 'cleanse' their top division of grounds that didn't have an 'F'. The problem with the ground grading documents is that they can be interpreted in different ways. They are too many words like 'should', 'may be acceptable' etc. in them. Because of this the FA started to revisit every step 5 ground in the country that hadn't been graded in the past three years. the aim was to make sure the gradings were done consistently between leagues. Quite a few CCL teams were graded but everything seems to have gone quiet so I don't know if the FA scrapped the scheme before it was finished due to their 'suggestion' of twelve leagues at step 5 not going through. There is a 'grandfathering' rule at step 6. The reason is that it's only recently the FA have decided to enforce the grading at that level countrywide. The various step 6 divisions were given deadlines to ensure all their members had the grading or be relegated. The Combined Counties deadline is this season so teams may get relegated this year from Division One if they haven't got the grading. I think the Hellenic League has the same deadline. Most other step 6 leagues in the country implemented the 'G' grading a few years ago. The only league that has a deadline beyond this season is the Kent Invicta League but that's only in its second season of existence. The clubs in that have three more years to get the grading. So no, it's not unfair on Guernsey at all. You're in exactly the same boat as every other step 5 club in the country. As I said on another thread, which clubs would replace the ones who would be 'jettisoned' if this did happen? I cannot see people being happy with a smaller Division 1 next season - Wessex 1 is a joke this season with only 16 clubs, and the Hellenic is at risk of being streamlined at Step 6 into one league. Ok, you might gain Rayners Lane but who else in theory could come in? Hounslow Wanderers (if they play at Hayes & Yeading?), Hillingdon Borough (I think their athletics stadium has lights?), Aldermaston (or is that too far out?) It's a difficult task - obeying the whims of the FA and yet trying to run a competitive league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 Interestingly Adam in Guernsey they have what are called Social Leagues,that are not affiliated to Guernsey FA. Where as hear ,to run even a Junior side you have to be affialiated to your County FA with all the costs that brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Any League can setup in the UK and not be affliated to their County FA. But these players are NOT allowed to play for an afflited club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey local Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Indeed, any players who play in the social leagues can't play in the local GFA leagues. It's a massive cock up on the part of the GFA I think who threw their toys out of the pram a couple of years ago. Local football would be better off if they kissed and made up which may happen sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Its also a standard rule across the UK in relation to non affliated leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 Any League can setup in the UK and not be affliated to their County FA. But these players are NOT allowed to play for an afflited club. But they would not get a Ref surely.Agree with their President though,wanting a percentage of the Fines money from the F.A though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt123 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Any news on molesey ground developments? All about guernsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 But they would not get a Ref surely.Agree with their President though,wanting a percentage of the Fines money from the F.A though. I assume they use ones not affiliated to the GFA to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Any news in the latest bulletin,about Guernseys complaint,heard it was to be discussed last Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Not heard anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Not heard anything. Nor me ! Then again, I probably wouldn't. Most of my 'spies' are still on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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