The Mayor Of Simpleton Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 http://news.uk.msn.c...e-psychopaths-1 Should we all panic? Seriously, these MSN articles are getting worse by the day. Why not focus on the 99% of children who are good and hard-working instead? One thing that might be turning these kids bad is the lack of freedom they have, compared to children growing up in the 1950s/60s. Kids then could go out all day in the summer with their friends and Mum and Dad would know they were safe and home in time for supper. Whole new ball game these days, sadly, with creeps seemingly on every corner and Mum and Dad ferrying the family round in the 4x4 just to go down the road to Tesco/Morrison. As for X-Boxes and PS3s and the like, don't even get me started. I grew up on an Estate that was more like a zoo - and no I am not being over-dramatic. If you cage an animal, it goes insane/mental/feral/retarded, the same goes for children. Disallow them their rights to freedom and a good childhood and you are setting them (and maybe even yourselves up) for a fall. Consequently, a lot of the kids from that estate then and now are turning out with low IQ's and only understand how to switch the TV on for Jeremy Kyle and how to chug white cider. Personally, I don't believe what has been written - a child learns good and bad and it's more important to get them on the side of good. We forget how emotive children can be, and that they are learning so much in their formative years. There is also too much pressure on them to 'conform' and to fit the stereotypes society imposes. Sorry, but there are some children who do not fit the stereotype - does that mean they are bad/wrong? Should a child be branded 'evil' because he/she listens to Heavy Metal music when everybody else in his/her class likes Justin Bieber? Children should, in my opinion, be allowed to be themselves up until 16 when adult-hood should start. Let them have their fun, and let them be able to look back when they are 18 and say 'I had a great childhood and was give every chance to make something of my life' and not 'I had a crap childhood, went off the rails, and now I'm in a Young Offenders Institute.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Seriously Adam, I don't know if you have children or are involved in their growth and development but I'm sure you would be good at it. However I'm not sure how much you understood the article or have indeed done much research on Psychopathy. I think in simple terms what the article is saying is that a number of children have the genetic susceptibility towards psychopathy but environment and nurture will have the effect on a proportion that will end up displaying the definition of psychopath later in life. Things like attachment disorder where a parent fails to form a parental attachment with the child can lead to failure to have the capacity for empathy, something like this alongside the genetic markers for psychopathy can lead to an eventual diagnosis. Attachment disorder on its own can just lead to simpler anti-social and behavioural disorders. Conversely good parenting may lead to different outcomes. Nature v. Nurture but imo you cannot just let children be children in a pure form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 BLIMEY ! A sensible thread for a change ! I'm sure many regular posters on this Forum will give us their full and frank views ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Panther Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 BLIMEY ! A sensible thread for a change ! I'm sure many regular posters on this Forum will give us their full and frank views ! An old psychology professor i knew always watched his new students entering the room on the first day of term. He watched the new intake walk in and sit down, like all had done years before him, then he would ask them 'why did you all walk in here and sit on the chairs'. The Students had no answer and he would reply 'because you are all conforming to society' and thus began the new term. Having been forwarned of this by a undergraduate i let all the students enter before me. I followed them in and sat on the Floor and began howling like a hyena on heat. He then asked his age old question to the students and gave them his answer. He turned to me and said 'Yet your different. You are no conformer, why? I replied 'i do not conform to your stereotypical theories of society. I am an enigma wrapt up in a mystery'. We ended up great friends.I have no interest in this MSN artical. The thing that interests me more is how many users of this Forum would pass the golden standard test of psychopathy. Im sure it would be more than 1%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFC Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 BLIMEY ! A sensible thread for a change ! I'm sure many regular posters on this Forum will give us their full and frank views ! Well im sure if you took into account the 'children' of a regular contributor to this forum the stats would be well above 1%............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missunderstood Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Seriously Adam, I don't know if you have children or are involved in their growth and development but I'm sure you would be good at it. However I'm not sure how much you understood the article or have indeed done much research on Psychopathy. I think in simple terms what the article is saying is that a number of children have the genetic susceptibility towards psychopathy but environment and nurture will have the effect on a proportion that will end up displaying the definition of psychopath later in life. Things like attachment disorder where a parent fails to form a parental attachment with the child can lead to failure to have the capacity for empathy, something like this alongside the genetic markers for psychopathy can lead to an eventual diagnosis. Attachment disorder on its own can just lead to simpler anti-social and behavioural disorders. Conversely good parenting may lead to different outcomes. Nature v. Nurture but imo you cannot just let children be children in a pure form. IMO the system that encourages idleness, and forces children to live in an environment where there's no hope of a decent future (in their minds) plus kids being brought up without an influential father figure and a wider family network to help, is a sure fire recipe for a society with more than its fair share of psychopaths. A decent education for all our children is the key, but asking our overworked and demoralised teachers to make the necessary improvements needed is unrealistic while their own lives are being blighted by wage freezes and vicious attacks on their pensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Panther Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 IMO the system that encourages idleness, and forces children to live in an environment where there's no hope of a decent future (in their minds) plus kids being brought up without an influential father figure and a wider family network to help, is a sure fire recipe for a society with more than its fair share of psychopaths. A decent education for all our children is the key, but asking our overworked and demoralised teachers to make the necessary improvements needed is unrealistic while their own lives are being blighted by wage freezes and vicious attacks on their pensions. I'm in full agreement with you missunderstood. My x wife is a teacher and because of her meagre £47.000 a year salary is really beginning to struggle. She's only been able to holiday in Amsterdam, Spain, France and Jamaica this year. Heaven knows what she will be doing for the other 5 weeks holidays left. Keep up the good work with your support of the downtrodden Teachers. Who knows, with your support she may well be able to have her Rolex watch repaired by the year ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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