Munchkin Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Anyone know the FA stance on sending offs in friendlies? Normally I wouldn't even consider it differently, however when Ivanovic was sent off in the Community Shield the FA confirmed he would not serve a ban as it was a friendly. Obviously the opposite has now happened to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Browne Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Once again its a case of inconsistency with match officials. I have known referees in friendly matches who have approached the bench and request a player is substituted rather than show the red card, others have simply said after the game that they would not report a sending-off and then you get the 'more than my job's worth' official who does everything by the book and files his report. Cannot see the FA over-ruling the decision if you appeal, but good luck if you do appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munchkin Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 I think you're right it will be impossible to appeal, i was just wondering if the FA have set a precedent by not suspending Ivanovic. But when do they treat non league clubs the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I think you're right it will be impossible to appeal, i was just wondering if the FA have set a precedent by not suspending Ivanovic. But when do they treat non league clubs the same! They openly do not apply the same rules to "the Professional game" as to the "National Game". And they do not apologise for that. So there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Easy Solution get a Referee who your Club know well,who is not a Jobs worth.Normally ones who spend a bit of Time post match in your Bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munchkin Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Easy Solution get a Referee who your Club know well,who is not a Jobs worth.Normally ones who spend a bit of Time post match in your Bar. Alas it was a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munchkin Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 They openly do not apply the same rules to "the Professional game" as to the "National Game". And they do not apologise for that. So there you go. Then why have the same discipline handbook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Do Premier League and Football League clubs use the same one as Conference and below? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munchkin Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Do Premier League and Football League clubs use the same one as Conference and below? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savagebee Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 A good debate and no involvement from Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beano Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Probably not. Although the timescales are different, the punishments and basic procedures are the same for the Professional Game as for the National Game. One of the changes brought in by The FA is that players are suspended specifically for matches played by the team they were playing for. The issue here is that The FA have decided that the Community Shield should be treated as a Reserve Team match, so Ivanovic is suspended for Reserve Team games and not Premier League matches. Whether that classification is the right decision or not is not for me to say, but the fact is that the player was given a suspension for his sending-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munchkin Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Although the timescales are different, the punishments and basic procedures are the same for the Professional Game as for the National Game. One of the changes brought in by The FA is that players are suspended specifically for matches played by the team they were playing for. The issue here is that The FA have decided that the Community Shield should be treated as a Reserve Team match, so Ivanovic is suspended for Reserve Team games and not Premier League matches. Whether that classification is the right decision or not is not for me to say, but the fact is that the player was given a suspension for his sending-off. I did read that. How does it work with first and reserve teams in the SSML, presuming you can't nominate first team games if you are sent of for the reserves, does that mean you are eligible for the first team? I think probably not. Another interesting point is that friendlies do not count as qualifying matches for suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beano Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 In terms of player eligibility, I would suggest you check with your local County FA - they deal with player discipline at Steps 5 and below, while The FA deal with Steps 4 and upwards. If a club's reserve team play in a Saturday league, the three matches would probably happen at the same time as First Team games anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFC Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I did read that. How does it work with first and reserve teams in the SSML, presuming you can't nominate first team games if you are sent of for the reserves, does that mean you are eligible for the first team? I think probably not. Another interesting point is that friendlies do not count as qualifying matches for suspension. If sent off playing for reserves or firsts and the league is classed as a 'Saturday league' i believe you are banned from any games for any teams for duration of ban but can still play 'Sunday league' football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Browne Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 The offences have to be served for the team you were playing for, ie: a three match suspension in first team game then your number of games have to be first team football, likewise dismissed in reserves then number of matches must be reserve team football. However you cannot play for your club's other sides whilst suspended. You cannot cross reference your suspended matches. Also unless stated then suspensions relate to Saturday football so you can play in Sunday football. Likewise suspended from Sunday football allows you to still play Saturday football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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