Smudge Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hope all Clubs/Managers/Players have been made aware of the F.A.'s latest proposals regarding the much publicised RESPECT CAMPAIGN. Step 5 10 cautions for Dissent/Foul and abusive Language =£150 FINE and warned to future Conduct 15 cautions :-Re above = £300 Step 6 10 cautions = £75 15 cautions = £150 Previous Fines run alongside this new endeavour,so Clubs beware KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT. THIS NEW PROPOSAL does not affect the Premiership at present. THERE IS NO APPEAL AGAINST A RESPECT CHARGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor Of Simpleton Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Whilst I support this, in principle, what fines will be given to bad referees? I'll give you an example: About five years ago, a team-mate of mine went to take a quick throw-in and the referee blew his whistle. He thought 'oh, the ref's blown because I've taken it too quick' so he went back to the spot at which the ball went out but was called over by the referee who gave the throw-in to the opposition! I said to the referee 'their number 6 kicked it out of play, so it's a throw-in to us surely?' to which the referee replied 'f**k you, it's their throw in - any more abuse from you and you're off.' Nothing happened to that ref, who is still a referee in the Midlands these days and by all accounts has not changed his tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krooner Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I know a referee who was suspended for swearing at a manager. I know referees downgraded for poor performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewcenary Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Along the same lines, I know of a referee permanently suspended due to conduct, and as well as downgraded for poor performance, some have been downgraded from being permitted to referee on CCFL Premier for failing the fitness test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 As usual you Refs miss the point,Respect is about Fairness surely,so how come the F.A. Fine a Step 5 Club twice as much as a Step 6 Club,in this new money making venture.Is it because they think in their eyes,they must have more money,whereas even top flight Players are only Fined £10 for a caution,like the rest of Players from Sunday League up.Do step 5 Officials get twice as much as Step 6 Officials? Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewcenary Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The fine is zero pounds if clubs ensure their players don't get carded for dissent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 The fine is zero pounds if clubs ensure their players don't get carded for dissent! The fine is zero pounds if clubs ensure their players don't get carded for dissent! Agreed,but with some of the crap officials,portraying themselves as Referees, this will never happen.Just another F.A Money earner,to build up the coffers of the COUNTY FA's.Think I will start up 'Smudges Ref Watch' so at least Clubs can be warned of the traits,of particular Officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor Of Simpleton Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 A bit suspect to introduce it at Step 5-6 and not from the 'top down.' How many times do we see the likes of Rooney, Terry etc. f'ing and blinding in games, and yet nothing is done when they do it. I think the idea, in principle, is good. However, it needs to be that ALL players and ALL officials agree to behave during the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Pointless starting at the Top Adam,£300 to a Step 5 Club is a lot of money,whereas £30,000 to a Premier Club is peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor Of Simpleton Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 True, Smudge, but you do need to punish those at the top of football who flout the rules as well. As you rightly say though, a £30,000 fine is small change in the big leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Blame Me Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Does anyone these days actually know what respect is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor Of Simpleton Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Definition of respect noun 1 [mass noun] a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements:the director had a lot of respect for Douglas as an actor the state of being admired or respected:his first chance in over fifteen years to regain respect in the business (respects) a person’s polite greetings:give my respects to their Excellencies informal used to express the speaker’s approval of someone or something:respect to Hill for a truly non-superficial piece on the techno scene 2due regard for the feelings, wishes, or rights of others:young people’s lack of respect for their parents 3a particular aspect, point, or detail:the government’s record in this respect is a mixed one verb [with object] 1admire (someone or something) deeply, as a result of their abilities, qualities, or achievements:she was respected by everyone she worked with(as adjective respected)a respected academic 2have due regard for (someone’s feelings, wishes, or rights):I respected his views avoid harming or interfering with:it is incumbent upon all hill users to respect the environment agree to recognize and abide by (a legal requirement):the crown and its ministers ought to respect the ordinary law Phrases in respect of(or with respect to) in respect that pay one's(last)respects with(or with all due)respect as regards; with reference to:the two groups were similar with respect to age, sex, and diagnoses because. see pay1. <a name="respect__18" style="outline: none; color: rgb(26, 99, 171); position: relative; z-index: 1; "> used as a polite formula preceding, and intended to mitigate the effect of, an expression of disagreement:with all due respect, Father, I think you’ve got to be more broad-minded these days Origin: late Middle English: from Latin respectus, from the verb respicere 'look back at, regard', from re- 'back' +specere 'look at' Source: Oxford English English Dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Blame Me Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Shame that there are too many people around who do not practise it then. I have no doubt there will be disrespectful behaviour at every game played this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krooner Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 It does happen at the top level. No excuse people. Keep your mouths shut no problem. Called self discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J R Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Easy-peezee as far as the top clubs are concerned where money is no object. A yellow card for dissent/abuse is punished by an immediate next match ban. No appeals. Big club managers might just then ensure their players 'behave' themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krooner Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Shame that there are too many people around who do not practise it then. I have no doubt there will be disrespectful behaviour at every game played this afternoon. Well I was at a game in a local cricket league. Very lowly division. There were 11 colts playing between the 2 sides and 2 adults squared up to each other. Even cricket is full of it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace1 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I find that the majority of bookings for dissent are due to a reaction to a decision by the officials. I know there are opinions however; I would say that some decisions are blatantly wrong and are, at times, so obvious it beggers belief! Players react and then get booked for it. Why do the officials at the end of the game decide that they may have 'got it wrong' and then rescind the yellow card? This may already happen but not where i've had players involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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