SOUR GRAPES.

[Smudge]

Just got in from a decent day out to read all the waffle from some posters who have slated the Officials in the games they have lost today.V.P.C.T.F.C,,Guernsey Donkey,and one other hold your heads in shame.Reason neither of you have named this despot in your posts.Guernsey f.c. and Camberley f.c. have no divine right to win any game.Well done Eversley and Horley Town for turning over the form book.The above mentioned teams have no divine right to win every game they play,but they think they have.Most of the posters on here need a reality check,you are so blinkered in your opinions,that in my eyes they do not count.I am slowly losing my passion for this Forum,and the bullshit many spout.WORDS MEAN NOTHING TO MANY POSTERS.PROMISE THIS AND PROMISE THAT.But the proof of the pudding is in the eating,when most of you cannot support a Charity event on 3 occassions to raise much needed funds for less fortunate people than ourselves.lET ALONE BUY A GOLD MEMBERSHIP to help fund this great forum.Mr.F COLLINS AND MR.D JONES ARE THE ONLY DUFF REFS IN THIS LEAGUE,which i named earlier in the season,check to see how many games they have reffed since.The best refs in this League are BLACK,how many I wonder have been to Guernsey I ASK,

Edited January 22, 2012 by Smudge

[GSY UTD]

Smudge, with all due respect, football supporters complaining about a referee's performance after their team has lost a game is hardly groundbreaking news. I don't really think it needs another thread.

[HKP]

You back on the ale smudge?

 

Why do you bring up the colour of the skin of a referee again when mentioning Guernsey?

[Krooner]

Last Twitter from VP at the end of the Horley game.

 

Thats full time. Horley Town 1 Camberley Town 0. Credit has to go to the Horley Goalie and defenders for keeping us out.

 

No sour Grapes there smudge and lets be fair how many times have you been on here moaning about officials. You are like the 2 idiots I sat in front of today. Only happy when you are moaning.

[Ace1]

Embarrassing!!!

[Krooner]

Just read VP's comments and he compained about the officials but did not blame the officials for the defeat and praised Horely. Sorry Smudge but you do talk some rubbish at times.

[Don't Blame Me]

What do you mean Kroons by "at times"? Windsor have had some shocking officials this season but we have also had some decent ones. Skin colour is a complete and utter irrelevance. Plus, I have absolutely no complaints about the officials yesterday and he was being assessed.

[bomaya]

The ref was apparently Mr B Fish. He also did their away game at Bookham which I was at. Don't remember him so he can't have been too bad.

Edited January 22, 2012 by bomaya

[HKP]

His performance was certainly a bit fishy! Lol

[Yossa Hughes]

The best refs in this league are black ? That is a statement and a half smudge !

[Rother]

Just got in from a decent day out to read all the waffle from some posters who have slated the Officials in the games they have lost today.V.P.C.T.F.C,,Guernsey Donkey,and one other hold your heads in shame.Reason neither of you have named this despot in your posts.Guernsey f.c. and Camberley f.c. have no divine right to win any game.Well done Eversley and Horley Town for turning over the form book.The above mentioned teams have no divine right to win every game they play,but they think they have.....Mr.F COLLINS AND MR.D JONES ARE THE ONLY DUFF REFS IN THIS LEAGUE,which i named earlier in the season,check to see how many games they have reffed since.The best refs in this League are BLACK,how many I wonder have been to Guernsey I ASK,

 

And yet, not so long ago....

 

Horley Town 2 v 1 Croydon

 

Firstly must say that overall on 90 mins Horley deserved their victory.Take Frances Ameyaw out of the Croydon side,and it would of been a rout.But Smudge is not a happy bunny.Not because Croydon lost,but in the manner of the loss,The Referee Mr.Johnathan Creswick was a disgrace,and in my opinion should never Referee at this level again.Reason:-In the first half a Horley player uttered these words to him,FOOK OFF REF,his response a quiet chat,no card.But do not know what was in his tea at half time,as 2nd half he came out all cards blazing,8 yellows and a deserved Red.Not a bad tackle was seen all night.As one supporter said 'he is young learning his trade'well please go learn it somewhere else' by your abysmal performance Mr.Creswick you have cost 2 decent clubs £235 +plus your fee.The final nail in the coffin came, when a player lay prone on the ground for over a minute,after a head injury,did he blow his whistle NO,he took it upon himself to ignore it,was the player hurt yes,a fractured jaw no less.Did he care NO,aTOTAL DISGRACE TO REFEREES,mr creswick,please give up.

Edited January 22, 2012 by Rother

[Green Lion]

I have to agree Smudge. As a Guernsey FC fan I was very disappointed with some fan reaction yesterday. Yes the Eversley penalty was questionable and a couple of other decisions towards the end were dodgy but I thought in general he got a lot right

 

I was disappointed by some of our fans. The blinkers were definately on, loads of abuse for the ref for every decision when I think he got most things right. Some of the views from people near me where laughable

 

As for Eversley, they earned the right to win the game, they were better - passing, reacting to the ball etc - yes a few of them took longer getting treated than they should have, but any team leading away to the top of the table team are going to try and run the clock down.

 

Also disagreed with booing Eversley off, it made GFC fans look like very sore losers. I clapped them off and I think any team who comes to one of the best in the league, plays better and gets a result should be acknowledged.

 

Didn't Guernsey Donkey say a while back he'd be the first to applaud the first team to come to Guernsey and win?

[TRS]

If the ref was Brian Fish, he has gone down in AFC Wimbledon folklore as the worst referee in the history of the world Away to Godalming and Guildford if I remember correctly, probably the most bizarre display of officiating I've ever witnessed and I think we won too, so not sour grapes.

 

Although a guy that did one of our games at Chalky Lane was nearly as bad. Don't recall his name, but he has no neck....

 

[Big J R]

Will Mr Fish be doing the next Guernsey home game ?

 

He won't need transport !!!!!!!

 

 

[VPCTFC]

Erm - I know Camberley haven't got a divine right to win every game. I've only ever suggested that once which was about 20 years ago when I used to do a page in the programme and I mentioned that Clapton are the type of side we should beat easily. That didn't go down well with them!

I haven't seen anything from any of the Horley lot yet but I'm sure they'll agree with my views about our dominance for much of the game yesterday. We've played worse and won, they've probably lost to teams who haven't had as much possession and as many chances as we did. That happens in football.

I won't name and shame the lino (the ref was average, the other lino didn't put a foot wrong as far as I recall) for two reasons. One is there's no need to. I said things to him during the match and he was very forthright by answering back. That may be something that they shouldn't officially do but I'm all in favour of it.

The second reason is I haven't got a clue what his name is. I don't buy programmes, I don't look at the appointments bulletins which just list numbers anyway and I haven't got the list of officials by their number.

I won't pay for a gold membership. As I've said before, I choose to do things for my club (and others) which cost me money. I don't go around with a begging bowl asking for donations for my mobile phone bill from anyone who reads my tweets, my time, electricity for my PC etc.

I'm sure Kroonz will vouch that I'll happily give my time and money for charity when able. Like him - I don't make a song a dance about it and don't go around telling everyone how much and to whom I've donated. That's my business. I'd love to do more but I can't afford to.

As for the colour of offcial's skin - I don't see what that's got to do with anything. The referee's appointments secretary is not racist despite your implications that he is because he won't give a black official a game in Guernsey. I don't know if that's true or not but I'll take your word for it.

One of our officials yesterday was black. I'll let you ponder whether he was the one who had a poor game, the average one or the good one (all in my opinion of course). It doesn't matter to me.

Edited January 22, 2012 by VPCTFC

[HTFCSUPPORTER]

Erm - I know Camberley haven't got a divine right to win every game. I've only ever suggested that once which was about 20 years ago when I used to do a page in the programme and I mentioned that Clapton are the type of side we should beat easily. That didn't go down well with them!

I haven't seen anything from any of the Horley lot yet but I'm sure they'll agree with my views about our dominance for much of the game yesterday. We've played worse and won, they've probably lost to teams who haven't had as much possession and as many chances as we did. That happens in football.

I won't name and shame the lino (the ref was average, the other lino didn't put a foot wrong as far as I recall) for two reasons. One is there's no need to. I said things to him during the match and he was very forthright by answering back. That may be something that they shouldn't officially do but I'm all in favour of it.

The second reason is I haven't got a clue what his name is. I don't buy programmes, I don't look at the appointments bulletins which just list numbers anyway and I haven't got the list of officials by their number.

I won't pay for a gold membership. As I've said before, I choose to do things for my club (and others) which cost me money. I don't go around with a begging bowl asking for donations for my mobile phone bill from anyone who reads my tweets, my time, electricity for my PC etc.

I'm sure Kroonz will vouch that I'll happily give my time and money for charity when able. Like him - I don't make a song a dance about it and don't go around telling everyone how much and to whom I've donated. That's my business. I'd love to do more but I can't afford to.

As for the colour of offcial's skin - I don't see what that's got to do with anything. The referee's appointments secretary is not racist despite your implications that he is because he won't give a black official a game in Guernsey. I don't know if that's true or not but I'll take your word for it.

One of our officials yesterday was black. I'll let you ponder whether he was the one who had a poor game, the average one or the good one (all in my opinion of course). It doesn't matter to me.

 

My summary on the game was we took a good early lead from a long throw and a good flick on and a calm finish.

Camberley had a lot of possession in the 1st half and they were patient in there build up and they did create a few chances but the Horley players were very gutsy in every challenge and got in the way.

The second half Camberley seemed to change there plan they hit everything long and to be honest Horley dealt with it well, I remember the same thing happened at there place when they were 1 down they seem to panic.

But I gotta say i think in the 2nd half Horley must of broke on 3 or 4 occasions and got past the back line but couldnt get the second goal to kill it off.

As for the officials like what was said there was a few descisions that went the wrong way but im sure it was about the same for both teams.

But overall we are delighted with getting 6 points from a good Camberley side.

 

Just dont know what your saying about 'I havent seen anything from the Horley lot yet'?

[Krooner]

I think he meant he hadnt seen a post from anyone from Horley HTFC

[duncs]

I don.t think the Conference are shaking at your arrival next season do you Kroons ha ha ha

[HTFCSUPPORTER]

I think he meant he hadnt seen a post from anyone from Horley HTFC

 

ah I see. Ok.

[Krooner]

I don.t think the Conference are shaking at your arrival next season do you Kroons ha ha ha

 

Sorry it took me some time to answer cos I was laughing my head off Duncs. You are sounding as boring as Smudgey now.