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I think that's the dichotomy - we need someone on the bench who can come on and make an impact when required but we aren't going to get an experienced goalscorer to play third or fourth fiddle. The answer I guess is squad rotation but is that fair on the players (Sean and Danny) who are scoring regularly? Tricky one for the management.

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I think Chris Seeby would make an excellent emergency striker if needed - good in the air and on the deck, strikes a football well and scores goals from defence/midfield. It seems he can play anywhere and I think he could do a job for us in a crisis.

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I think Chris Seeby would make an excellent emergency striker if needed - good in the air and on the deck, strikes a football well and scores goals from defence/midfield. It seems he can play anywhere and I think he could do a job for us in a crisis.

 

So could forgotten man Adam Logie. I'm convinced he would be a bigger asset at Slough,if the manager believed in him more.Let's not forget, he scored 9 goals from midfield in 2010-11 season. Paul Coyne's form and Adam Martin's favouritism have kept Logie out the team and Steve Bateman's dubious tactics concerning Adam Logie positioning haven't helped his form either this year.

I think Adam Logie will leave sooner rather than later and we will lose out on a very good,under rated player,who will easily fit into most of this division and the league higher, teams.

 

Chris Seeby is another talented footballer and I'm so glad he's back.I prefer him as a defender but as you say he has the ability to play anywhere.

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I was especially impressed with Adam Logie when he covered at the back when Alex Brown was injured. However would you really put him in midfield at present ahead of Coyne and Martin? I also don't think he did himself too many favours with the slightly irresponsible sending off at Chalfont.

 

Whilst Logie or Seeby (or NBH) could play up front in an emergency it would only ever be that - an emergency. I think we should pursue getting a 'proper' striker as it'll keep Sean, Danny and Ben on their toes and that's a good thing.

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I was especially impressed with Adam Logie when he covered at the back when Alex Brown was injured. However would you really put him in midfield at present ahead of Coyne and Martin? I also don't think he did himself too many favours with the slightly irresponsible sending off at Chalfont. Whilst Logie or Seeby (or NBH) could play up front in an emergency it would only ever be that - an emergency. I think we should pursue getting a 'proper' striker as it'll keep Sean, Danny and Ben on their toes and that's a good thing.

 

I agree with you,Ian,that I would rather have a proper striker upfront but like all scenario's it's worth having players who know how to score goals,regardless.Often players are very shy of having a go at goal.Luckily our squad is blessed in this regard,however we are not always the most direct team. I like it that we endeavour to play passing football but,at times,we over elaborate.

 

Steve Bateman I like, as a manager, and I liked him as a player.He appears to be level-headed and a nice guy and he obviously has good man-management skills to have attracted some of the notable players we have at Slough. Like all managers.though, he has blind spots and favourites. My observation about Adam Logie is a justifiable one, given his playing record and what I've seen of him play but of course,not everyone can play in a team of 11 and form can dictate.

You are right,Adam,did himself no favours with his silly sending off at Chalfont. I thought he was trying too hard to make an impact and to impress Mr Bateman. The trouble I believe,is that when Adam Logie does play,Steve Bateman tells him to stay back as a holding midfielder and yet, he never ever does this to any other midfielders we use. In fact,he lets other players in central midfield maraude forward and never tells them to hold back.This suggests to me,that there is a conflict of sorts between manager and player,which I find ludicricrous given Logie's abilities.

 

Steve Bateman isn't always right,as proven when he played Elliot Buchanan on the left wing in games,when he is an out and out goal scorer and has now gone on to play Conference football, as an out and out striker.Mo Shariff only got into the team because of injuries and Bateman thought for a long time that he was too young, until the impact he made getting in the side.Bateman favoured Sinclair. Charlie Mpi didn't fit into our team but he doesn't seem to be doing too bad elsewhere. James Duncan didn't get much of a chance but he still managed to play at a higher level with Margate,after he left us.Simon Martin appears to be just what the doctor ordered at St Albans City under Dave Howell. Kyle Jeffery kept the Slough forwards at bay at Chalfont, in the centre of defence. So time and again,Steve doesn't always get it right, like ALL managers.

 

We supporters watch the games and all have our opinions and our favourites.One of my favourite players happens to be Adam Logie.I feel he is undervalued at our club but I can accept that Paul Coyne has been playing remarkable this season and is hard to drop, especially as most of our best moves revolve around much of what he does. Paul Coyne,we all know has a suspect temperament but Steve Bateman has given Paul numerous chances to play. Logie just isn't favoured. Adam Martin,who on his day is an excellent player,as proved against Beaconsfield,is another of Bateman's favourites.Yet for most of the games he has played this season he's been fairly ordinary,to say the least.How many goals has he scored?

 

Now it looks like Chris Seeby is going to be our new midfield saviour because of a good game against bottom placed Marlow.There's no doubt Chris Seeby is a class footballer and if I were manager I would like to see him as a centre half alongside NBH and Woozley.I think Alex Brown/Dave Woozley should be looking over their shoulders at Seeby's arrival and Simon Sweeney's imminent return and I happen to think we are already spoilt for choice in midfield, than Seeby's return necessarily warrant's but I don't suppose Steve Bateman or many fans will have the same ideas as me.

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Like yourself 3spirit, I used to think SB (like a lot managers) had his favourite players and played them regardless of form but there are some examples that, I think, proves this to be a false assumption.

 

If you take Adam Martin, Simon Sweeney and Chris Heron as some prime examples of players who SB is, for want of a better phrase 'very close to'.

 

Adam Martin, after some mediocre displays when he first came back to us, was left out for a few games and has now re-gained his place in the team and who I think is getting better with every game..

 

Simon Sweeney, at present, cannot get his place back in the team with the current form of Alex Brown.

 

Chris Heron currently cannot command a place in the starting 11 after being given an opportunity by SB to cement a place.

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I think Logie started like a train in his first season with 5 goals in 6 games but like the rest of the squad he lost form after the Erith cup loss, he then played brilliantly in a spell at centre back this season before Brown forced his way back in. He is undoubtedly a good player but he hasn't shown enough for me to warrant displacing Coyne, Martin, Seeby or Swift in the midfield pecking order. Definitely a great option for the bench but how long he will be happy with that remains to be seen.

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I was especially impressed with Adam Logie when he covered at the back when Alex Brown was injured. However would you really put him in midfield at present ahead of Coyne and Martin? I also don't think he did himself too many favours with the slightly irresponsible sending off at Chalfont. Whilst Logie or Seeby (or NBH) could play up front in an emergency it would only ever be that - an emergency. I think we should pursue getting a 'proper' striker as it'll keep Sean, Danny and Ben on their toes and that's a good thing.

 

I agree with you,Ian,that I would rather have a proper striker upfront but like all scenario's it's worth having players who know how to score goals,regardless.Often players are very shy of having a go at goal.Luckily our squad is blessed in this regard,however we are not always the most direct team. I like it that we endeavour to play passing football but,at times,we over elaborate.

 

Steve Bateman I like, as a manager, and I liked him as a player.He appears to be level-headed and a nice guy and he obviously has good man-management skills to have attracted some of the notable players we have at Slough. Like all managers.though, he has blind spots and favourites. My observation about Adam Logie is a justifiable one, given his playing record and what I've seen of him play but of course,not everyone can play in a team of 11 and form can dictate.

You are right,Adam,did himself no favours with his silly sending off at Chalfont. I thought he was trying too hard to make an impact and to impress Mr Bateman. The trouble I believe,is that when Adam Logie does play,Steve Bateman tells him to stay back as a holding midfielder and yet, he never ever does this to any other midfielders we use. In fact,he lets other players in central midfield maraude forward and never tells them to hold back.This suggests to me,that there is a conflict of sorts between manager and player,which I find ludicricrous given Logie's abilities.

 

Steve Bateman isn't always right,as proven when he played Elliot Buchanan on the left wing in games,when he is an out and out goal scorer and has now gone on to play Conference football, as an out and out striker.Mo Shariff only got into the team because of injuries and Bateman thought for a long time that he was too young, until the impact he made getting in the side.Bateman favoured Sinclair. Charlie Mpi didn't fit into our team but he doesn't seem to be doing too bad elsewhere. James Duncan didn't get much of a chance but he still managed to play at a higher level with Margate,after he left us.Simon Martin appears to be just what the doctor ordered at St Albans City under Dave Howell. Kyle Jeffery kept the Slough forwards at bay at Chalfont, in the centre of defence. So time and again,Steve doesn't always get it right, like ALL managers.

 

We supporters watch the games and all have our opinions and our favourites.One of my favourite players happens to be Adam Logie.I feel he is undervalued at our club but I can accept that Paul Coyne has been playing remarkable this season and is hard to drop, especially as most of our best moves revolve around much of what he does. Paul Coyne,we all know has a suspect temperament but Steve Bateman has given Paul numerous chances to play. Logie just isn't favoured. Adam Martin,who on his day is an excellent player,as proved against Beaconsfield,is another of Bateman's favourites.Yet for most of the games he has played this season he's been fairly ordinary,to say the least.How many goals has he scored?

 

Now it looks like Chris Seeby is going to be our new midfield saviour because of a good game against bottom placed Marlow.There's no doubt Chris Seeby is a class footballer and if I were manager I would like to see him as a centre half alongside NBH and Woozley.I think Alex Brown/Dave Woozley should be looking over their shoulders at Seeby's arrival and Simon Sweeney's imminent return and I happen to think we are already spoilt for choice in midfield, than Seeby's return necessarily warrant's but I don't suppose Steve Bateman or many fans will have the same ideas as me.

 

Woozley looking over his shoulder? The guy is one of the best central defenders we've had in years and is the first name on the team sheet, he leads by example and is vocal, on top of that, not many attackers get a sniff when he is marking them!

 

Regarding Logie, he has always played as a defender or defensive midfielder, yes he had a purple patch scoring goals last season but at the team we were so open in midfield as a result! Logie was brought in to anchor the midfield, and is he a more creative option than Coyne, Swift or Burgess? Simple no, and is he a better midfield anchor than Martin, Perkins or Seeby, Simple again, no... He is a squad player like Abbey, Perkins, Burgess etc but Bateman has proved he is not afraid to drop players this season and Logie will get his chance again, the truth is, he had a nightmare against Burnham and Rugby, was dropped to the bench a few games later, went on honeymoon and then got sent off, he has been far from discarded, it's more about his availability so far, he also looked like he was limping around the ground on Saturday!

 

Lastly, he is not a proven striker, so why would the manager risk it only to be berated when it doesn't come off? I could understand experimenting if we were in a relegation battle or mid table mediocrity, we're fighting for a league title and promotion, it is not advisable to take such risks when things are working, if it's not broken don't fix it!

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I was especially impressed with Adam Logie when he covered at the back when Alex Brown was injured. However would you really put him in midfield at present ahead of Coyne and Martin? I also don't think he did himself too many favours with the slightly irresponsible sending off at Chalfont. Whilst Logie or Seeby (or NBH) could play up front in an emergency it would only ever be that - an emergency. I think we should pursue getting a 'proper' striker as it'll keep Sean, Danny and Ben on their toes and that's a good thing.

 

I agree with you,Ian,that I would rather have a proper striker upfront but like all scenario's it's worth having players who know how to score goals,regardless.Often players are very shy of having a go at goal.Luckily our squad is blessed in this regard,however we are not always the most direct team. I like it that we endeavour to play passing football but,at times,we over elaborate. Steve Bateman I like, as a manager, and I liked him as a player.He appears to be level-headed and a nice guy and he obviously has good man-management skills to have attracted some of the notable players we have at Slough. Like all managers.though, he has blind spots and favourites. My observation about Adam Logie is a justifiable one, given his playing record and what I've seen of him play but of course,not everyone can play in a team of 11 and form can dictate. You are right,Adam,did himself no favours with his silly sending off at Chalfont. I thought he was trying too hard to make an impact and to impress Mr Bateman. The trouble I believe,is that when Adam Logie does play,Steve Bateman tells him to stay back as a holding midfielder and yet, he never ever does this to any other midfielders we use. In fact,he lets other players in central midfield maraude forward and never tells them to hold back.This suggests to me,that there is a conflict of sorts between manager and player,which I find ludicricrous given Logie's abilities. Steve Bateman isn't always right,as proven when he played Elliot Buchanan on the left wing in games,when he is an out and out goal scorer and has now gone on to play Conference football, as an out and out striker.Mo Shariff only got into the team because of injuries and Bateman thought for a long time that he was too young, until the impact he made getting in the side.Bateman favoured Sinclair. Charlie Mpi didn't fit into our team but he doesn't seem to be doing too bad elsewhere. James Duncan didn't get much of a chance but he still managed to play at a higher level with Margate,after he left us.Simon Martin appears to be just what the doctor ordered at St Albans City under Dave Howell. Kyle Jeffery kept the Slough forwards at bay at Chalfont, in the centre of defence. So time and again,Steve doesn't always get it right, like ALL managers. We supporters watch the games and all have our opinions and our favourites.One of my favourite players happens to be Adam Logie.I feel he is undervalued at our club but I can accept that Paul Coyne has been playing remarkable this season and is hard to drop, especially as most of our best moves revolve around much of what he does. Paul Coyne,we all know has a suspect temperament but Steve Bateman has given Paul numerous chances to play. Logie just isn't favoured. Adam Martin,who on his day is an excellent player,as proved against Beaconsfield,is another of Bateman's favourites.Yet for most of the games he has played this season he's been fairly ordinary,to say the least.How many goals has he scored? Now it looks like Chris Seeby is going to be our new midfield saviour because of a good game against bottom placed Marlow.There's no doubt Chris Seeby is a class footballer and if I were manager I would like to see him as a centre half alongside NBH and Woozley.I think Alex Brown/Dave Woozley should be looking over their shoulders at Seeby's arrival and Simon Sweeney's imminent return and I happen to think we are already spoilt for choice in midfield, than Seeby's return necessarily warrant's but I don't suppose Steve Bateman or many fans will have the same ideas as me.

 

Woozley looking over his shoulder? The guy is one of the best central defenders we've had in years and is the first name on the team sheet, he leads by example and is vocal, on top of that, not many attackers get a sniff when he is marking them! Regarding Logie, he has always played as a defender or defensive midfielder, yes he had a purple patch scoring goals last season but at the team we were so open in midfield as a result! Logie was brought in to anchor the midfield, and is he a more creative option than Coyne, Swift or Burgess? Simple no, and is he a better midfield anchor than Martin, Perkins or Seeby, Simple again, no... He is a squad player like Abbey, Perkins, Burgess etc but Bateman has proved he is not afraid to drop players this season and Logie will get his chance again, the truth is, he had a nightmare against Burnham and Rugby, was dropped to the bench a few games later, went on honeymoon and then got sent off, he has been far from discarded, it's more about his availability so far, he also looked like he was limping around the ground on Saturday! Lastly, he is not a proven striker, so why would the manager risk it only to be berated when it doesn't come off? I could understand experimenting if we were in a relegation battle or mid table mediocrity, we're fighting for a league title and promotion, it is not advisable to take such risks when things are working, if it's not broken don't fix it!

 

I respect what you are saying Cookham Rebel, as well as what Martin and Reading Rebel alluded to but obviously we all see different aspects and each have our favourite players.I was not advocating Logie as a new striker.I want a proper forward. I was just highlighting to Stuntman Mark, that Adam Logie has been overlooked, when he really isn't such a bad player. He is fit as I spoke to him on Saturday at the Marlow game.Though I think his confidence is probably low,given Steve Bateman's lack of faith in him.

 

You see,as much as Paul Coyne has been superb this season, I can see that we have other talented players, who could make up a very different,exciting style of midfield given a chance and who could serve us just as well but never get a look in and that's not just Adam Logie. Why should Paul Coyne be undroppable,when we have at least eight other midfield players? I think that limits our attacking play.

Maybe, if we do lose Paul Coyne next season [if he goes travelling], Adam Logie and others, may give us a healthy alternative in midfield.

To my mind, our manager doesn't always get the best out of certain players, if they fall short somehow to his mindset. Only my opinion,though.I actually think we have a squad that could adapt to playing 4-3-3 and would play many teams off the park,given the calibre of player we have at our disposal.

 

Still, we're not doing too bad, are we, under Steve Bateman's leadership! and I'm really NOT trying to stir up a hornets nest. Just my own thoughts and something to chat about on here.

 

As for Dave Woozley, I think he is a good player.However,if I was to pick my four best defenders, I would choose Sweeney at right back, NBH-right sided centre-half,Seeby-as left sided centre half and Murphy as a left back but if I played three centre halves Woozley would be one of them. To me Alex Brown is a weaker link but for certain games can do a good job,and gives us cover for NBH[if he gets injured] and has prescence. Simon Sweeney is still getting over a major operation,so shouldn't be rushed back.

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Paul Coyne isn't undropable but so far this season his form has made him undropable, he has been different class and our best player by a mile, I'd be surprised if anyone disagrees with this!

 

Regarding Woozley, given the level the guy has played at, he is our best centre half, whatever formation we play, it's no coincidence that we have been more solid since his arrival!

 

If Logie decides to leave then so be it, no one has a god given right to play, it's up to the manager and Bateman has got it right at the moment, he will get his chance but he'll have to be patient!

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Paul Coyne isn't undropable but so far this season his form has made him undropable, he has been different class and our best player by a mile, I'd be surprised if anyone disagrees with this!

 

Regarding Woozley, given the level the guy has played at, he is our best centre half, whatever formation we play, it's no coincidence that we have been more solid since his arrival!

 

If Logie decides to leave then so be it, no one has a god given right to play, it's up to the manager and Bateman has got it right at the moment, he will get his chance but he'll have to be patient!

 

Keep your hair on,Cookham! It's only a discussion. As regards,Paul Coyne,you're right he has been outstanding this season and a far better player than I gave him credit for,the previous season. I just believe, rightly or wrongly, that when we play sides like Marlow and Fleet[lower placed teams] we could rest a player like Coyne and give others a chance like Logie,Perkins,Sam Bateman,Byrne,Burgess,Seeby etc. to show what they can offer,rather than letting them stagnate and also give them game time.

There's nothing radical in this idea.

 

I don't agree with you on Dave Woozley.As I've already said he is a good player but as a footballing centre half, Chris Seeby for me is better [at this moment in time,not necessarily of past glories].

That is not to say, that Woozley is a mug and this season he has had several exceptional games.

As you know, I like the sweeper system and would like to see either Seeby or Perkins as a sweeper between NBH and Woozley.

Just my preferred option.

 

If Adam Logie or any player in our squad leaves,that's just one of those everyday football happenings. I was gutted when Charlie Mpi went, as I thought he offered us a very good alternative to the Burnell/Sonner partnership and I'd be gutted if Adam Logie leaves, for the same reason,as he offers Slough another alternative to Paul Coyne or Adam Martin.

Of course,no player is bigger than the club and the manager makes those make or break decisions.

So far,Steve Bateman is doing a very good job and we are not top of the league for nothing. We have rode our luck a little at times and so far I've only seen one very good side to be wary of, and that is Bedworth. I don't believe that the standard of foootball is any better from last year or the year before but our all round squad has improved.

 

Looking forward to the Burnham game today.Wouldn't it be nice to stuff them!

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Paul Coyne isn't undropable but so far this season his form has made him undropable, he has been different class and our best player by a mile, I'd be surprised if anyone disagrees with this!

 

Regarding Woozley, given the level the guy has played at, he is our best centre half, whatever formation we play, it's no coincidence that we have been more solid since his arrival!

 

If Logie decides to leave then so be it, no one has a god given right to play, it's up to the manager and Bateman has got it right at the moment, he will get his chance but he'll have to be patient!

 

Keep your hair on,Cookham! It's only a discussion. As regards,Paul Coyne,you're right he has been outstanding this season and a far better player than I gave him credit for,the previous season. I just believe, rightly or wrongly, that when we play sides like Marlow and Fleet[lower placed teams] we could rest a player like Coyne and give others a chance like Logie,Perkins,Sam Bateman,Byrne,Burgess,Seeby etc. to show what they can offer,rather than letting them stagnate and also give them game time.

There's nothing radical in this idea.

 

I don't agree with you on Dave Woozley.As I've already said he is a good player but as a footballing centre half, Chris Seeby for me is better [at this moment in time,not necessarily of past glories].

That is not to say, that Woozley is a mug and this season he has had several exceptional games.

As you know, I like the sweeper system and would like to see either Seeby or Perkins as a sweeper between NBH and Woozley.

Just my preferred option.

 

If Adam Logie or any player in our squad leaves,that's just one of those everyday football happenings. I was gutted when Charlie Mpi went, as I thought he offered us a very good alternative to the Burnell/Sonner partnership and I'd be gutted if Adam Logie leaves, for the same reason,as he offers Slough another alternative to Paul Coyne or Adam Martin.

Of course,no player is bigger than the club and the manager makes those make or break decisions.

So far,Steve Bateman is doing a very good job and we are not top of the league for nothing. We have rode our luck a little at times and so far I've only seen one very good side to be wary of, and that is Bedworth. I don't believe that the standard of foootball is any better from last year or the year before but our all round squad has improved.

 

Looking forward to the Burnham game today.Wouldn't it be nice to stuff them!

 

We scrambled home against Fleet, so resting out best player i.e. Coyne against so called lower opposition IMO is not an option regardless of who we play.

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Paul Coyne isn't undropable but so far this season his form has made him undropable, he has been different class and our best player by a mile, I'd be surprised if anyone disagrees with this!

 

Regarding Woozley, given the level the guy has played at, he is our best centre half, whatever formation we play, it's no coincidence that we have been more solid since his arrival!

 

If Logie decides to leave then so be it, no one has a god given right to play, it's up to the manager and Bateman has got it right at the moment, he will get his chance but he'll have to be patient!

 

Keep your hair on,Cookham! It's only a discussion. As regards,Paul Coyne,you're right he has been outstanding this season and a far better player than I gave him credit for,the previous season. I just believe, rightly or wrongly, that when we play sides like Marlow and Fleet[lower placed teams] we could rest a player like Coyne and give others a chance like Logie,Perkins,Sam Bateman,Byrne,Burgess,Seeby etc. to show what they can offer,rather than letting them stagnate and also give them game time.

There's nothing radical in this idea.

 

I don't agree with you on Dave Woozley.As I've already said he is a good player but as a footballing centre half, Chris Seeby for me is better [at this moment in time,not necessarily of past glories].

That is not to say, that Woozley is a mug and this season he has had several exceptional games.

As you know, I like the sweeper system and would like to see either Seeby or Perkins as a sweeper between NBH and Woozley.

Just my preferred option.

 

If Adam Logie or any player in our squad leaves,that's just one of those everyday football happenings. I was gutted when Charlie Mpi went, as I thought he offered us a very good alternative to the Burnell/Sonner partnership and I'd be gutted if Adam Logie leaves, for the same reason,as he offers Slough another alternative to Paul Coyne or Adam Martin.

Of course,no player is bigger than the club and the manager makes those make or break decisions.

So far,Steve Bateman is doing a very good job and we are not top of the league for nothing. We have rode our luck a little at times and so far I've only seen one very good side to be wary of, and that is Bedworth. I don't believe that the standard of foootball is any better from last year or the year before but our all round squad has improved.

 

Looking forward to the Burnham game today.Wouldn't it be nice to stuff them!

 

We scrambled home against Fleet, so resting out best player i.e. Coyne against so called lower opposition IMO is not an option regardless of who we play.

 

I thought Paul Coyne wasn't that good against Burnham yesterday.He ignored instructions from the bench and Adam Martin,who was excellent in the 2nd half, kept telling Coyne to give him more support in the centre of the pitch.Paul Coyne just ignored him.

As good as Paul is,he hates having to do the shutting down and the hard graft in the middle of the park.Adam Martin doesn't always want to play that way either but after a poor 1st half,yesterday,he dug in and showed incredible nous and I thought he was Slough's best player.

We should have some alternatives to Paul Coyne,regardless to how good he is.If I was the Slough manager at yesterday's game,I would have subbed him in the 2nd half for Steve Perkins. Steve could have played the holding role,thus enabling Adam Martin to get forward more. I think a midfield three of Perkins,Bateman or Logie, and Adam Martin could be very effective given the chance.

When is Danny Murphy back? We're missing his energy and talents.

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