Beaconsfield v Slough Town

[Don Juan DeMarcus]

I still have no idea what swift did?? I saw nothing at all!

[Cookham Rebel]

Yads is a poor poor centre back, he was poor when he was with us and today proved he is passed it! He attempted to wind up the referee every time there was a tackle made by one of our players, but yet again, we had the last laugh!

 

Fleet and Marlow next, 6 points please boys!

 

COYR!!!

 

I don't agree with you,CR, about Yiadom Yeboah.

Obviously being no spring chicken,he has slowed but his overall attributes[all-round game] as a player and as a focussed,switched on team mate for SYCOB, was still very evident for all to see.

I feel that he could easily play for most teams in this division but that doesn't mean I'm advocating he comes back to Slough!

Just thought that you were being a bit hard on Yads,considering it was a fiercely contested derby and that there are plenty of worse centre-halves in other teams in this Central League.

 

Well done Steve Bateman for getting team selection and the system right.Chris Seeby was inspired and NBH led the team well.

I thought Paul Coyne and Adam Martin both had excellent games.

Can't help feeling that we had a slice of good fortune,in that Fiston Manuela was suspended and that it aided Slough no end,when Nevin Saroya left the field but that's not to undervalue Slough's superb team effort.Just a pity Stuart Swift showed no sense when kicking out in a handbag scuffle.On another day he could have cost us the game.

 

My opinion of Yads is based on what I have seen 3spirit, he is a poor communicator, misjudges the long ball and doesn't get his back line out quick enough, something which did not help our style of play when he was with us, hence the huge gaps between the defence and midfield on numerous occasions!

 

The way we played, I doubt Manuella would have made such a huge difference! I also have sympathy for Swift on this one, when anyone gets hit/stamped on it is a natural reaction to kick out, it was unfortunate for him and us that the assistant referee didn't see the original offence as both players should have been sent off, not just Swift, also their left back got away with a worse offence in my opinion, Swift was on the deck and their left back chased down Burnell to give him a kick! Whilst we can all say, Swift shouldn't have reacted, in the heat of the moment, human nature unfolded!

 

On the Swift sending off,you are right that the referee was inconsistant,as Beaconsfield should have been reduced to 10, as well.

 

It just pees me off,that non-league football is following the professional game in the over the top,diving theatricals that ruin every game and these weak.powder puff handbag scuffles,which is better suited to an infants playground, than to a grown man's football pitch.

 

We all do things in the heat of the moment, which you say is human nature but Slough have a truly abysmal disciplinary record this season,which frankly is embarassing to the good name of our club. Yet without being anywhere near a tough nut side, we keep getting all these silly bookings/red cards are for either mouthing off at the officials or some inane stupid act like Stuart Swift did.

All I'm saying,is when are we going to learn?

As if we do become champions,this disciplinary stuff will be blight on our excellent footballing prowess that this season has so far offered.

 

3spirit, I have to disagree again, I can't remember our players being involved in any petty scuffles so far this season! Ok Swift supposedly kicked out but he could have feigned injury after supposedly being stamped on which is cheating which I do not condone, cheating in football is worse than retaliation in my opinion, in the heat of the moment Swift reacted but again that is human nature, he could have rolled around on the floor like Cristiano Ronaldo and a lot of other players, including those at our level!

 

The Swift red card was only our 3rd red card this season, ok, in an ideal world that would zero but no club is whiter than white with their disciplinary record, and a lot of that is down to the dubious decisions that are given more and more at this level! Adam Martin's red card was for a mistimed tackle, Adam Logie's for 2 yellows again for mistimed tackles and Swift's for retaliation, they are only human and will make mistakes, none of our red cards have stemmed from dissent aimed at the referee unlike last season, and our disciplinary record has improved vastly, and I have to defend the players here, a lot of the yellows dished out have left me baffled this season, take the Burnham and AFC Hayes games as examples!

 

Unless someone can tell me the stats, and how many of our players have been booked for dissent, I do not think our disciplinary record is as bad as you state! In terms of suspensions so far this season, we haven't had that many and that is commendable, the match day squad has rarely changed!

 

We're top, playing well and I for one am loving the fact that I've been shut up, I cannot fault the management or the players so far this season, that even goes for our disciplinary record and long may that continue!

 

CR

[Cookham Rebel]

62 yellow cards in 29 games, which is give or take a bit, 2 a game, hardly out of hand given the nature of football these days!

[Cookham Rebel]

Have to say, having now found the below, I am shocked, I honestly didn't think we were that bad! Apologies 3spirit, you are correct!

 

http://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/FantasyNonLeague/NLP-Fair-Play-290911.pdf

[Matt]

Have to say, having now found the below, I am shocked, I honestly didn't think we were that bad! Apologies 3spirit, you are correct!

 

http://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/FantasyNonLeague/NLP-Fair-Play-290911.pdf

 

Yes we do have a problem, as I think the above shows. Also very expensive when you consider that the club got fined £250 for having 6 players cautioned against Burnham, then this was doubled to £500 when it next happened at Hayes. Should it happen again, the fine is doubled again! It really doesn't look good for the club, regardless of how many "poor refs" we've had.

 

As an aside, I reckon the founders of Corinthian Casuals would be turning in their graves!

[Tom]

That table is rubbish, there are plenty of teams that have had more cautions, dismissals and total FA points than Slough.

[Cookham Rebel]

It's based on cautions for dissent Tom, for which we have had more than any other club in the Non League Pyramid according to the table, it's all to do with respect! Ok, the Burnham and AFC Hayes games probably contributed a high percentage of those cautions but it is there in black and white for all to see!!!

[Cookham Rebel]

From memory, yes I am a sad old git who remembers pretty much everything, 11 of those 15 yellows for dissent were issued in the Burnham and AFC Hayes games, maybe puts it a little bit in perspective! So 4 yellows for dissent in the other 20 matches, it's not all doom and gloom in that department!

 

We should all just concentrate on helping the team with our support at the moment, let the Management deal with the disclipinary side of the team, the players are not that bad!!!

[3spirit]

Yes, CR, we should concentrate on helping the team with our support,which I will do at the actual games but opinions on this forum should be aired regardless.

 

Things are slowly improving. Paul Coyne hasn't been so uncontrolled or vocal since the arrival of Fred Cummings and it has helped that we have have other strong personalities in the team now ie NBH,Brown,Woozley,Perkins.Though I don't think he's quite a Saint yet!

Also Danny Murphy is letting his football do the talking and is a lot less vocal than he has been in the past.Which is great.

 

However,the three that let us down constantly in discipline matters[Note: not their footballing skills] are Danny Burnell,Sean Sonner and Stuart Swift. I should think every referee at our level, knows Danny Burnell, as from the 1st minute to his final minute on the pitch,he whines on to the officials about, just about anything and everything, especially if it hasn't gone his way.Perhaps it would do him good to go on a referee's course to see how easy it is!

 

Sean Sonner seems to me to be a bit of a loony tune! He seems to be the epitome of the image of the modern,white working class bloke that plays football,as every other other word is some form of swearing,usually beginning with a capital F ! He reminds me of the school bully's stooge and think's his bravado is impressive.He's also guilty of starting some of these handbag scuffles due to him doing niggly challenges or unsporting behaviour.

Though,it wasn't his fault for Swifty's sending off.

 

With Stuart Swift, I think it is an instinctive thing,as he seems to get involved in these daft melee's often.I think there's nothing wrong with sticking up for your team mates and that in tow, bring's team comraderie/unity but when we're winnining 2-0 in one of our most important games of this season,and the opposition are looking to get back in the game however way they can,you've got to be a fool to get in involved.

So come on players get a grip. THINK before you act for the good of the team and us long-suffering fans.

Onward and upward!

[Windsor Rebel]

I think you are being a bit harsh on Sean Sonner, 3spirit. I dont think there is another player in our team who shows

more passion for the club than Sean, and that shows in his style of play. Swearing shows passion, not ideal I agree,

but part of the game

[richierebel]

it might be harsh but I know for a fact that especially for Sean Sonner opposition manager`s know that he will react and target him, one even told his central defenders to pull his hair and get the reaction and he will lose his discipline. I guess that is like a double edged compliment! they know he is one of your best players! but they also know his weak spot and target it!

[Don Juan DeMarcus]

Unless I'm wrong sonner and burnell have never been sent off for us so I feel that's a bit harsh- however the amount of defenders they wind up into stupid fouls and bookings is impressive! They play mind games with opposing defenders and they usually work!! I don't actually think we have a discipline problem most of those bookings came from very weak refs in two games!

[Mr Rebel]

at the end of the day we are 4 points clear at the top of the league with around half of the season gone. its not something that is costing us at the moment. granted we saw with Bedworth sending off how much the game can change with a silly red card

 

as said the Burnham and AFC Hayes officials were absolutely dreadful throughout and plenty of fans who are usually calm even lost their cool. its not ideal to get yellow cards for complaining but to me it shows that the players really do care and us fans are lucky to have so many committed and talented players

 

also the big characters in the team is another massive positive for where we are. the team spirit seems to be exceptional

 

do think we do have a select few who have a reputation of sorts which works against them slightly with certain refs. Burnell for example wins far less free kicks than he deserves perhaps due to his frustration getting the better of him often when freekicks are not warranted. he wouldnt be the same player without that trait though and its not like it affects his scoring record

[Cookham Rebel]

Unless I'm wrong sonner and burnell have never been sent off for us so I feel that's a bit harsh- however the amount of defenders they wind up into stupid fouls and bookings is impressive! They play mind games with opposing defenders and they usually work!! I don't actually think we have a discipline problem most of those bookings came from very weak refs in two games!

 

Again, being a sad old git who remembers most things, Sonner was sent off for a bad tackle in the FA Cup game against Lancing last season and Burnell got a straight red for dissent in the League Cup game at Leighton last season also!

 

I agree with you Marcus, we did have a discipline problem last season but this season we don't, 11 yellows for dissent in 2 games where, lets face it, the officials even wound the supporters up due to their incompetence! If there was a discipline problem, the management would do what they did toward the end of last season and substitute players, again the players are not that bad!

[Don Juan DeMarcus]

Apologies I remember the sonner one now... But still think they play with attitude it's part of their game... Just like good ok wilko

 

Ol notold

[3spirit]

I think you are being a bit harsh on Sean Sonner, 3spirit. I dont think there is another player in our team who shows

more passion for the club than Sean, and that shows in his style of play. Swearing shows passion, not ideal I agree,

but part of the game

 

Perhaps I am being too hard on Sean Sonner,WR,but he frustrates me.

I suppose that comes from the fact that we Slough fans, have seen some players over the years and recognise those model professional types who play an honest game and a fair game to boot.I was brought up on those values and so those players who do not have the Corinthian spirit stick in my craw,somewhat. This is why I highlighted Sean Sonner,among others.

His workrate,commitment,overall team play and passion, I'm not questioning at all and it is evident the positive qualities he brings to the team and I'm glad he play's for us, rather than against us, but there's no getting away from the fact that he is one of the main protagonists in the very poor,undisciplined record that Slough Town currently have, compared to other non-league football teams.