Discrimination at school

[Mr Happy]

My mum used to use a wooden spoon to smack me. She once broke one in the process. Mr Bloody Idiot Happy later bought her a new set for her birthday! what a plonker!

[Little Miss Urchin]

Used to use wooden spoons? What has she progressed on to!?!?!? <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

[Badger]

This may be of interest.

[Stu B]

"We have got to start saying to people 'Yes children have rights but they have responsibilities as well and so do parents'." A very valid point.

[Colin, Germany]

He made a valid point, but he seems to have been cleared of the charge because there wasn't any evidence that he did what he had had been accused of, and that seems to have nothing to do with the valid point he made.

[BOROMAN]

David Watkins should be knighted!

[CANV EFM]

PUBLIC BIRCHINGS FOR TEENAGE HOODLUMS..3 CHANCES THEN OFF TO THE STOCKS FOR A GOOD FLOGGING AND A FEW HOURS OF PEOPLE LAUGHING AT YOU oops caps lock on...

back to the original issue.. lessons and testing styles were changed years back to encourage girls to do better at school.. more course work less tests etc.. this has worked a bit too well.. i see no problem in redressing the balance

[Mr Happy]

I see no one has bitten on my earlier comment regarding the death penalty. Come on guys what do you think?

[The Invisible Man]

Against, you will be less than astonished to learn. Doesn't work too well in the good ol' US of A, does it? My real objection is one of principle however, as I do not believe the state has the right to take life. Also medical science has yet to progress to the point where mistakes can rectified. Not convibcingly, anyway.

 

I'm also against coporal punishment at schools. I can't really see the logic or moral justification in teaching children that it's ok to hit someone with a weapon, which is what a cane is. Especially someone considerably smaller than yourself, and disenfranchised.

 

Come on then Sun, Star, Mail, Express and Telegrope readers, pile in!

[The Invisible Man]

Quote:

BOROMAN said:
How did the 16 year old mug you. You are invisible!

They didn't. I said ATTEMPTED. There are certain occassions upon which I favour corporal punishment......

[Mr Happy]

Corporal punishment differs from just hitting out at someone. It is controlled and the person receiving the punishment knows the reason for receiving it. In the same way, when I smack either of my children it is controlled and they know why they are getting the smack. However, when it comes to Mrs Happy, well....... <img src="/images/graemlins/spank.gif" alt="" />

 

On the subject of capital punishment I am totally opposed to it. I agree with Invis's reasons but also don't believe that two wrongs make a right. It is not our place to take life and by doing so we merely bring oursleves down to the level of the person we are executing. However, I strongly beleive that murderers should get life with absolutely no chance of parole ever. They should be made to work hard (but fairly) in prison and whilst I don't advocate in-humane treatment, they certainly should not have any luxuries.

[The Invisible Man]

Just to clarify, I am opposed to ritual corporal punishment by schools or other establishments. I am not talking about parents adminstering reasonable chastisement, without the use of a weapon, or even cooking utensils.

 

Apart from finding the ritual use of weapons offensive and barabaric, there is no proper system of justice, for want of a better word, in a school. No trial, no appeal, just the word or whim of a teacher, probably completely out of touch with reality (well they are teachers!) and conceivably using the situation for his or her own gratification.

[Mr Happy]

Any use of the cane should be by the head teacher only and before it takes place an investigation should be carried out. Similar to an investigation into a disciplinary at an office.

[CANV EFM]

i still favour a public thrashing for some of the scummers on the streets today.. it being in public makes it much more of a deterent.. as for the crimes required to merit this.. i still favour a three chances then you cop it, its hard to be specific on here with out writing 300 pages.. but sexual offences, attacking a copper, pocessing a firearm, using a knife, anything to do with beating up old biddies for a few quid.. basically the kind of stuff where the crimbo uses superior physical force to get something that isnt theirs.. or a gun or knife etc etc ..

as for the death penalty.. well i have no qualms about it but i understand the arguements against it.. it will probably never come back because so many people these days believe murderers etc, to be ill rather than evil

 

[Colin, Germany]

The main argument against the death penalty is not that murderers are ill, but that it has been used so many times against people who were convicted of a crime they did not commit.

[Steph]

We are the young ones,

The learners, the readers, the writers,

The copiers, the reciters.

We are the "L" plate subjects

We are the young and small

But we are the writing on your wall.

 

Ewan Maccoll and Peggy Seeger.

[Mr Happy]

Quote:

Colin, Germany said:
The main argument against the death penalty is not that murderers are ill, but that it has been used so many times against people who were convicted of a crime they did not commit.

I disagree with you Colin. The main argument against the death penalty is that it brings us down to the level of the perpetrators. Capital punishment is murder by the state. would you be prepared to pull the lever to hang someone you didn't know because you represent the state. If your answer is no then why should you expect someone else to do it.

Also, in some circumstances it only matorises the killer. for example the smiling bomber in Bali. The relatives of his victime believe that the death penalty is too good for him.

[Big J R]

Yes - I would spring the trap. I think the last fee for the hangman was around 30 guinea's !

 

When you realise how much it actually costs to to keep a convicted killer in Maximum Security for 12 years plus, I think you would agree the first option is better and cheaper, for us, the tax-payers !

[Mr Happy]

Are you telling me you could kill someone you din't knowbecause twelve men and women have found him or her guilty. What if you didn't agree with the verdict. If you were forced to do it (like jury service) would you still do it?

[pabird]

Since a teenager I have held the belief that capitol punishment was a no go area for human beings

BUT

I am convinced over the years of having three children of my own and one grandchild todate that should certain attacks take place on my family I would myself commit murder

No hesitation, no wavering right or wrong I would kill