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[3spirit]

You must have seen a different game to everyone as Mpi certainly didn't get 2 assists. Murphy got the 1st and Sinclair/Fleet defender got the 3rd.

 

Perhaps the word 'assists' was not right but no one can deny Charlie Mpi was involved in the set-up of both goals in the second half.

[3spirit]

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To the people saying we should drop Burnell for a target man

 

He has scored 32 goals in 45 games

 

Ian Hodge at Slough scored 81 in 151 and is regarded as one of the best strikers of the last 10 years

 

Point proved!!!

 

I can't for the life of me see where anyone says that we want to drop Danny Burnell. I think it's good that we have 4 strikers that all have different styles. I do think,though,that sometimes it's good to have a variation on who plays upfront and can appreciate what Cookham Rebel is saying, regarding playing Ben Abbey and Charlie Mpi together. I think this approach helps develop healthy competition and keeps each striker on their toes,as they are not guaranteed a place in the team.To be honest,I like this option to be given to all positions in the team, regardless.

Yesterday,I stood near to where Burnell pretended that a foul had happened on him,just before he got substituted.The Fleet player never touched him and his face was a picture when he saw he was coming off and then started moaning about it. No player should feel they're indespensible. I actually prefer Danny Burnell to Sean Sonner,as I feel that Danny is a proper forward,where Sean Sonner tends to drift out wide and all over the pitch thus limiting his goals.However,Sean is hardworking at closing down defenders. So both have their uses. To me, Burnell was the right player to be substituted in yesterday's game and so for the Marlow game I would start with Sonner and Mpi upfront with Burnell and Abbey on the bench but it doesn't mean that Burnell is any less a striker than any of the others.

[Martin]

For me we currently have seven players who when fit should always feature. Sweeney, NBH, Wooz, D Murphy, Sincs, burnell and Sonner. Not seen enough if Smith to make a judgement and not yet sure on best formation or midfield make up but will work on that during season.

[Ian]

Also

 

 

To the people saying we should drop Burnell for a target man

 

He has scored 32 goals in 45 games

 

Ian Hodge at Slough scored 81 in 151 and is regarded as one of the best strikers of the last 10 years

 

Point proved!!!

 

I can't for the life of me see where anyone says that we want to drop Danny Burnell. I think it's good that we have 4 strikers that all have different styles. I do think,though,that sometimes it's good to have a variation on who plays upfront and can appreciate what Cookham Rebel is saying, regarding playing Ben Abbey and Charlie Mpi together. I think this approach helps develop healthy competition and keeps each striker on their toes,as they are not guaranteed a place in the team.To be honest,I like this option to be given to all positions in the team, regardless.

Yesterday,I stood near to where Burnell pretended that a foul had happened on him,just before he got substituted.The Fleet player never touched him and his face was a picture when he saw he was coming off and then started moaning about it. No player should feel they're indespensible. I actually prefer Danny Burnell to Sean Sonner,as I feel that Danny is a proper forward,where Sean Sonner tends to drift out wide and all over the pitch thus limiting his goals.However,Sean is hardworking at closing down defenders. So both have their uses. To me, Burnell was the right player to be substituted in yesterday's game and so for the Marlow game I would start with Sonner and Mpi upfront with Burnell and Abbey on the bench but it doesn't mean that Burnell is any less a striker than any of the others.

 

You say you cannot see where anyone says that we should drop Burnell but then say you would start tomorrow with Mpi and Sonner??! I don't know what your definition of being dropped is? You can call it resting, squad rotation or competition for places but to a footballer it amounts to the same thing. Being left out of the team is being dropped and when you have two players who have weighed in with 8 of the 11 goals we've scored to leave either out would be foolhardy.

[3spirit]

Also

 

 

To the people saying we should drop Burnell for a target man

 

He has scored 32 goals in 45 games

 

Ian Hodge at Slough scored 81 in 151 and is regarded as one of the best strikers of the last 10 years

 

Point proved!!!

 

I can't for the life of me see where anyone says that we want to drop Danny Burnell. I think it's good that we have 4 strikers that all have different styles. I do think,though,that sometimes it's good to have a variation on who plays upfront and can appreciate what Cookham Rebel is saying, regarding playing Ben Abbey and Charlie Mpi together. I think this approach helps develop healthy competition and keeps each striker on their toes,as they are not guaranteed a place in the team.To be honest,I like this option to be given to all positions in the team, regardless.

Yesterday,I stood near to where Burnell pretended that a foul had happened on him,just before he got substituted.The Fleet player never touched him and his face was a picture when he saw he was coming off and then started moaning about it. No player should feel they're indespensible. I actually prefer Danny Burnell to Sean Sonner,as I feel that Danny is a proper forward,where Sean Sonner tends to drift out wide and all over the pitch thus limiting his goals.However,Sean is hardworking at closing down defenders. So both have their uses. To me, Burnell was the right player to be substituted in yesterday's game and so for the Marlow game I would start with Sonner and Mpi upfront with Burnell and Abbey on the bench but it doesn't mean that Burnell is any less a striker than any of the others.

 

You say you cannot see where anyone says that we should drop Burnell but then say you would start tomorrow with Mpi and Sonner??! I don't know what your definition of being dropped is? You can call it resting, squad rotation or competition for places but to a footballer it amounts to the same thing. Being left out of the team is being dropped and when you have two players who have weighed in with 8 of the 11 goals we've scored to leave either out would be foolhardy.

 

How can it be foolhardy when you don't know what the other players may have done in the games already played. For all we know Charlie Mpi and Ben Abbey might have scored more than 8 out of the 11 goals scored.

What you seem to be saying is that Burnell and Sonner are undroppable,so what's the point in having Mpi and Abbey.

I'm not convinced that the Burnell/Sonner combination is anywhere close to being a successful striker pairing but this doesn't mean that either of them a bad strikers. I prefer to have a goal poacher like DannyBurnell, Tony Boot, Mark West, Andy Sayer etc playing with a bigger man who can either hold the ball up well,supply the assists to the goal poacher and is good in the air ie Paul McKinnon,Gary Abbot, Ian Hodges or have a striker like Charlie Mpi,Steve Thompson,Cliff Hercules,Yash Romeo etc who has pace/skill and is direct and a nuisance to defenders.

Yesterday it was clear to me that with Burnell and Sonner up front we didn't have a player who could hold the ball up and so we had problems bringing our midfield players into attacking positions.However,this changed when Charlie Mpi came on. Also with Paul Coyne going off and George Coyle's holding role this enabled Adam Martin,Steve Sinclair,Stuart Swift to all start having a more pronounced attacking influence and changed what had been a very tedious,lack of goalmouth action into a far more exciting affair.

[Ted]

That is well put by 3spirit, and says what I think far better than I have in the past. I'm just not convinced that Sonner and Burnett make the best pairing, though individually each is good.

 

I don't see synergy between them at the moment. Perhaps that will change.

[Ian]

What you seem to be saying is that Burnell and Sonner are undroppable,so what's the point in having Mpi and Abbey.

 

No, not at all. What I'm saying is you don't leave out players who are scoring a couple of goals a game. Yes change it in the game if it's not working and give the replacements time to do something (i.e. longer than 5 minutes) and leave them out if they aren't performing.

 

Squad players must believe that if they get the chance to play and perform well then they will stay in the team. That's their motivation. If they come in, do well then get dropped, what is the point in them hanging around? I'm not sure we've always done that in the past. However, the same applies to those in the team that if they are doing their job well then they have the right to start.

 

I'd love to see Mpi get time and see what he can do but cannot see any good reason at the moment to leave out players who are scoring with the frequency of Burnell and Sonner.

[A Rebel and a Saint]

I can't believe we are having to justify the presence of our two top scorers in the team! I agree with Ian, very well said.

 

And yes, in the Fleet team thread, certain people (who are now denying it) said they would not start with Burnell and Sonner as our front partnership, which, for those of you being a bit thick...means you would drop at least one of them! This forum gets more and more unbelievable every week!

[Cookham Rebel]

Talk about a complete over reaction, never once has anyone used the word "drop"... In this day and age, football is a squad game, just because someone is scoring goals doesn't guarantee them a start each week, that's a nonsense comment... It's like saying, Rooney scored a hat trick yesterday but I dare not rest him next game and give Hernandez, Berbatov or Owen a game to keep them match fit and interested!!! Same goes with our 4 strikers, today we have a game basically 46 hours after our last game finished, so why not freshen things up!!!

[A Rebel and a Saint]

So not naming them in your team to face Fleet is different to dropping them? No one on here is saying they should start every week, just use the partnership that is clearly working until injury or loss of form changes it!

[Cookham Rebel]

After the performance against Burnham no one would have moaned if Abbey and Mpi had started against Fleet, it's got nothing to do with dropping anyone!!!

[3spirit]

After the performance against Burnham no one would have moaned if Abbey and Mpi had started against Fleet, it's got nothing to do with dropping anyone!!!

 

Exactly.

Of course,you don't 'drop' a player who is bang on his game.You make changes when things aren't going so well.

Edited August 30, 2011 by 3spirit