Budgets

[Smudge]

Get to bed BBM,there is a curfew in place.

[Borellis Bar Maids]

Get to bed BBM,there is a curfew in place.

 

I thought it was in bed by 10..... lights off by 11??

[bomaya]

Frimley Green have a decent budget this year I hear

 

And Cove.

 

Also Farnahm are splashing the cash

 

Sandhurst have an investor who is puttiong in thousands

 

Ash have forked out a bit to have a go this season

 

All true and heard from a bloke I overhead in the pub talking to a bloke I once saw at Sainsburys buying a football magazine so I have no reson not to beleive

 

 

 

 

Farnham splashing the cash..........???

 

To who??

 

I got paid nothing last season and expect to be paid nothing again this season.

 

All the players are there cause we like playing for Spaz and Sean B!

 

Pretty sure Krooner was taking mick!

 

 

 

[Borellis Bar Maids]

Frimley Green have a decent budget this year I hear

 

And Cove.

 

Also Farnahm are splashing the cash

 

Sandhurst have an investor who is puttiong in thousands

 

Ash have forked out a bit to have a go this season

 

All true and heard from a bloke I overhead in the pub talking to a bloke I once saw at Sainsburys buying a football magazine so I have no reson not to beleive

 

 

 

 

Farnham splashing the cash..........???

 

To who??

 

I got paid nothing last season and expect to be paid nothing again this season.

 

All the players are there cause we like playing for Spaz and Sean B!

 

Pretty sure Krooner was taking mick!

 

 

 

 

 

 

haha...... just re read it properly!

 

Better take the hook out of my mouth and untangle myself out of his landing net!!

[Krooner]

You were not the first BBM and will not be the last. Ellers took that crown

 

Duncs you are probably right mate Offr to the Conference now

[THE ACE FACE]

Pritchard was paying players out of his own pocket 2 years back

 

Not sure Trentie and Aceface can afford too though

Very interesting topic Ellers,i didnt actually know that you and bp were such good friends NLN,mayby you could say hello to bob for me when you next see him ??.

I find it very amusing how so many people like to tell the forum what the other teams are or arnt paying ( speculation of corse ) .

Not a bite just an observation,if every team/manager refused to pay,or the league imposed a non payment rule would all theese players just simply vanish ? i dnt think so.

i belive some of then would be better players as they would be there for the love,desire and passion all the things i signed to a club for,even as a manager.

I estimate that it would cost me £100-150 a season to manage my team for a season ( petrol,txts,phone calls and the odd kit wash ) at this level of football this is somthing i would exspect,but to have players exspect to be on £20-50 a game is crazy,an unfortunatly all the time managers /chairman are willing to give, it will make life for the rest of us a challenge.

I strongly belive there are players out there who love the game and play for all the right reasons,i belive i have more than my fair share of them at my club.

Trentender and i do what we do for love and passion not money,if the chairman gave us a budget we would tell him to spend it on the ground/club as this will be here long after all of us.

[powelly]

I've heard stories in the past of people being on £120 a week at Knaphill, but the guys I know who play there told me it was more like they had to pay that to get all their club kit so it shows how ridiculous some of these rumours are.

This is nothing knew though - it's been going on forever in non league football as the majority of payments made to players are backhanders - i.e. they don't go through the books - so not many people really know the truth. The stories always get better the more people tell them, so it's not long before someone who's getting £10 is supposedly getting £50! Not sure if anyone read the Non League paper last week, but Garry Haylock - the new Farnborough manager - was saying that a fringe player there had asked him for £1,100 a week or he was off! Needless to say he told him he can go! There will always be someone who will pay it and that's why there are so many clubs going to the wall - 'normal' businesses wouldn't do what football clubs do. I've heard that Tubbs is on £3k a week at Crawley - I can't believe that's true for one minute - but because of supposed figures like that I have no doubt that's where Kedwell will end up. I've seen the same thing in club cricket as well. In the Surrey Championship it was against the rules to pay players, but that changed in about 1998. All of a sudden there were some fairly high profile overseas players coming in on supposed figures of £15k-£20k for four months work!! A couple of clubs took out loans to pay them and are still paying for it now! No doubt it happens in other sports as well. It doesn't guarantee success mind you - when Martin Caller was manager at Cobham about ten years ago, there was the rumour that they'd allegedly taken out a loan of £30k for their playing budget for the season and Ash won the CCL that year. I've no doubt Ash were paying a bit out - I'm sure JJ could confirm this - but I think they won it over Cobham as they had a great team spirit and more importantly had good players. Plus Jamie Horton used to ref most of the games! On the other side of the coin, I know the chairman of a top six Sussex County League div 1 side and he told me that one of their better players left for another SCL side and upped his money from £60 to £160 a week. Crawley Down won it I believe and one of their lads was supposedly on £300 a week - part time! This has posted on here already, but the SCL payout bundles - Sussex football is synonymous with players, managers and even Chairman moving to the clubs that have money.

 

One thing is for certain - it will never change.

[johnnojudo]

I was getting £20 a week the season after but thats cos I was shi1t then !! I'm obviously a superstar now !

 

Dunc's will know more than me as he was part of the management set up down there

[Smudge]

Nothing changes in Football Johnno.

[Weeble]

Love all the speculation about budgets as most don't have a clue about what clubs are really paying or have paid in the past. Weebs was a coach to Bob Betts during the second half of our first season in the Premier Division and can confirm that Bedfont Green didn't pay anybody a penny and the year before when we were promoted from Division 1 players paid a signing on fee. How the times have changed at step 6...

Not entirely true mate... we payed some players...... to stay away......

[ellers]

Ace face I don't know Bob Pritchard so you have lost me there with your comment and Krooner I have the crown for what?

[duncs]

I was getting £20 a week the season after but thats cos I was shi1t then !! I'm obviously a superstar now !

 

Dunc's will know more than me as he was part of the management set up down there

 

 

it was very cloak and dagger that year but I know some players were payed an incredible amount but look where it has got them.

[NICE GUY]

I was getting £20 a week the season after but thats cos I was shi1t then !! I'm obviously a superstar now !

 

Dunc's will know more than me as he was part of the management set up down there

 

 

it was very cloak and dagger that year but I know some players were payed an incredible amount but look where it has got them.

 

YEAH, MONEY IN THEIR POCKET !

[Wattsy]

I've heard that Tubbs is on £3k a week at Crawley - I can't believe that's true for one minute - but because of supposed figures like that I have no doubt that's where Kedwell will end up

Very good read there Powelly. The figure with Crawley are would say are true as they were paying stupid amounts to get them into the football league!

 

Ace face I don't know Bob Pritchard so you have lost me there with your comment and Krooner I have the crown for what?

Ellers - If you read again, Ace Face said that your thread was interesting, but the Bob Pritchard comment was a reply to NLN's one about BP paying players out of his own pocket

[ellers]

Oh yeah now I see it.

[VPCTFC]

£3000 a week at Crawley? That's possible.

In 2009 the Barnet chairman gave an interview:.

 

How do our wage and transfer budgets compare to those of other League 2 clubs? Can you give us any details about the size of our wage and transfer budgets? The average squad budget in League Two is about £1 million. Ours is about three quarters of that. Nowadays in football you don't have a transfer budget as such; instead you have a budget that covers any spending on the squad. That budget includes spending on wages, signing-on fees, agent's fees, salaries, bonuses, relocation monies, loyalty fees, and so on. It's not just the transfer fee that you have to pay for a player; it's the whole lot that gets taken into account.

 

I told you the average League 2 budget and I told you ours – there are clubs such as Bradford who are spending over £2 million on their squads. Peterborough and MK Dons, when they went up, both had squad budgets of over £2 million. And here's us on three quarters of a million.

 

http://www.bfcsa.co.uk/0910/articles/tk_interview_1.htm

 

Aldershot revealed their squad budget was £1.2 million at the time. That's £23000 a week based on a 52 year week. I presume contracted players get paid for a 52 week year. Even without all the agents fees and other costs that's a nice little earner for the players.

 

 

[WPFC No.1]

At WPFC we have no budget at all. The players still pay a signing on fee (£70 last year) at the start of the season and then paid £7.50 in match fees. It has always been that and considering the number of talented players we have, it is a tribute to them all that they want to stay, play with their mates and still pay a match fee. I think it is this that makes the squad so strong year on year

[ellers]

And I think you will be the team to beat again next season Wpfc.

[WPFC No.1]

And I think you will be the team to beat again next season Wpfc.

 

Thanks but I'm sure that there will be a lot of other teams that will be ones to beat and like the season just gone, the title will be very tight and go right to the wire.

[TRS]

£3000 a week at Crawley? That's possible.

In 2009 the Barnet chairman gave an interview:.

 

How do our wage and transfer budgets compare to those of other League 2 clubs? Can you give us any details about the size of our wage and transfer budgets? The average squad budget in League Two is about £1 million. Ours is about three quarters of that. Nowadays in football you don't have a transfer budget as such; instead you have a budget that covers any spending on the squad. That budget includes spending on wages, signing-on fees, agent's fees, salaries, bonuses, relocation monies, loyalty fees, and so on. It's not just the transfer fee that you have to pay for a player; it's the whole lot that gets taken into account.

 

I told you the average League 2 budget and I told you ours – there are clubs such as Bradford who are spending over £2 million on their squads. Peterborough and MK Dons, when they went up, both had squad budgets of over £2 million. And here's us on three quarters of a million.

 

http://www.bfcsa.co....interview_1.htm

 

Aldershot revealed their squad budget was £1.2 million at the time. That's £23000 a week based on a 52 year week. I presume contracted players get paid for a 52 week year. Even without all the agents fees and other costs that's a nice little earner for the players.

 

 

 

Interesting to read Jack Midson's blog following his signing for AFC Wimbledon. He says that Wrexham offered him "a salary much larger than what Wimbledon have offered, along with a signing-on fee and relocation fee."

 

Yes, that's Wrexham who had to pay an outstanding HMRC tax bill (at the last minute) to be allowed into the play-offs. Wrexham, who had a transfer embargo in the latter part of the season. Wrexham, who are apparently in a lot of debt as they don't get break even attendances etc.

http://theseventytwo.com/football-league/league-two/2011/06/20/the-not-so-secret-footballer-5-why-i-signed-for-afc-wimbledon/

Which just illustrates that clubs don't appear to be learning.....

Edited June 20, 2011 by TRS