Dark horses and favourites

[phillip hart]

 

Beware Bowers & Pitsea are putting together a nice little squad, and should they jel very quickly, will be my dark horses to break into the top 4 this season.

 

Teams that will struggle

 

Basildon, Apsa, Hullbridge, Eaton manor, Clapton and possibly Takeley

 

League winners from Witham, Enfield, BGU and Burnham

 

 

But feel Witham will win the league by 8 points at least.

 

 

[johnny bell]

 

Beware Bowers & Pitsea are putting together a nice little squad, and should they jel very quickly, will be my dark horses to break into the top 4 this season.

 

Teams that will struggle

 

Basildon, Apsa, Hullbridge, Eaton manor, Clapton and possibly Takeley

 

League winners from Witham, Enfield, BGU and Burnham

 

 

But feel Witham will win the league by 8 points at least.

 

 

 

 

I think it will be between witham and enfield for the league not sure who I would say is favourite dark horses for me is southend manor if they can build on last season they will.be there or there abouts

 

 

Teams to struggle for me will be apsa, sawbo, Clapton ,basildon stansted as there hole team has left and outside to struggle eton manor

 

Mid table for us this year

Edited June 14, 2011 by Takeley Tractor Boy

[coach et 64]

Summer predictions are always difficult and you find teams that were between the title favorites ending in the bottom 2 like Barkingside this year or Bowers the year before.Last season after signing some experienced ESL players I thought we had a side capable of being top 5 and look where we finished.Two seasons before that I thought we would have struggled and we had our best season since 1997.You never know chaps and no money can even guarantee you the certainty of finishing top.I would be very cautious on those predictions.

[Basil-Don]

 

Beware Bowers & Pitsea are putting together a nice little squad, and should they jel very quickly, will be my dark horses to break into the top 4 this season.

 

Teams that will struggle

 

Basildon, Apsa, Hullbridge, Eaton manor, Clapton and possibly Takeley

 

League winners from Witham, Enfield, BGU and Burnham

 

 

But feel Witham will win the league by 8 points at least.

 

 

 

you're a pr ick

so bowers are putting together a good team?? not sure quite how they are doing that if they havent trained or signed anyone yet.so Basildon will struggle why thats then exactly,please fill me in then i can inform the newly appointed manager where hes going wrong.

[Basil-Don]

got to laugh havent you,so Bowers will be a 'force to be reckoned with this season',wasnt that predicted last season and indeed the year before and what happened? thats right Basildon with no wage bill finished above their neighbours again, 'this time next year Rodney we will be millionaires!'

 

getting a bit tired of the annual 'bowers are the team to watch' predictions

[Eastside Urchin]

surely if they are someones dark horses to break into the top 4 you would then tip them as one of the top 4 teams in with a shout of winning the league???

Usually how it works.

[smallsy]

Bowers started pre season last Saturday Rich!

[slaphead]

A top 4 finish for Bowers would be good even better if Basildon are up there with them. Out of interest can you be promoted from 2nd or 3rd maybe even 4th depending on whether the teams that finish higher have Ryman level grounds?

Edited June 14, 2011 by slaphead

[Grounhopper Mark.]

A top 4 finish for Bowers would be good even better if Basildon are up there with them. Out of interest can you be promoted from 2nd or 3rd maybe even 4th depending on whether the teams that finish higher have Ryman level grounds?

 

Each season there are suppose to be 12 teams coming down from step.4, 2 Ryman (isthmian) North, 2 Ryman South, 2 Southern (zamaretto) Central, 2 Southern West, 2 Northern North and 2 Northern South.

 

It never seems to happen that way, as clubs keep over spending and hitting the wall and clubs at step.4 like W.Forest, Ilford, Harlow get repreives.

 

Now for promotion there are 14 divisions, but only 12 places the rule is only one club max from each division, so unlikely 3rd or 4th but possible if say the top 3 cant go up, but then they would lose out on the points per game for all 2nd / 3rd / 4th accross the board, this is how come Witham got relegated and then couldnt go up the first year afterwards. The champions whether they are north / south / west all go in a pot, it is not based on whether they would fit into the Ryman, 12 is the max.

 

The FA need to sort out 12 divisions, 2 to go the obvious choice would be the esl and kent who have the worse facilities, or mix them too and merge say two others. Esl's grounds are (sorry guys) not much better than some step.6, step.7 which i have visited. Springfield at step.7 has a clubhouse, some esl dont, There was a thread on here about groundgradings, but the esl's clubs fall short compared to the ridgeons, with the exception of half the clubs, the other half could easily fit in the olympian. Now for a ticking off from those who think they are special... (it is my opinion, which i am entitled too as we dont live in the usa yet...lol)

 

Saying that i am mightly impressed with what Takeley have done in such a short period of time from step.7 to enclosed entrance high fences, turnstyle, clubhouse and stands covered seating and standing areas, most imporved ground. Just wonder why the rest of the esl cant get their act together.

Edited June 14, 2011 by Grounhopper Mark.

[Basil-Don]

Bowers started pre season last Saturday Rich!

 

good for them Rob, so they started with another new coach and high hopes,same old nonsense we hear every season. oh and dont forget a 'state of the art' drainage system on their pitch,wonder if they've brought any more power showers? the phrase 'trying to run before they can walk' springs to mind.

[Basil-Don]

A top 4 finish for Bowers would be good even better if Basildon are up there with them. Out of interest can you be promoted from 2nd or 3rd maybe even 4th depending on whether the teams that finish higher have Ryman level grounds?

 

2nd placed can go up if first place dont qualify but its then based on pints per match or something ask witham,nosey fecker arent you.

[Basil-Don]

A top 4 finish for Bowers would be good even better if Basildon are up there with them. Out of interest can you be promoted from 2nd or 3rd maybe even 4th depending on whether the teams that finish higher have Ryman level grounds?

 

Each season there are suppose to be 12 teams coming down from step.4, 2 Ryman (isthmian) North, 2 Ryman South, 2 Southern (zamaretto) Central, 2 Southern West, 2 Northern North and 2 Northern South.

 

It never seems to happen that way, as clubs keep over spending and hitting the wall and clubs at step.4 like W.Forest, Ilford, Harlow get repreives.

 

Now for promotion there are 14 divisions, but only 12 places the rule is only one club max from each division, so unlikely 3rd or 4th but possible if say the top 3 cant go up, but then they would lose out on the points per game for all 2nd / 3rd / 4th accross the board, this is how come Witham got relegated and then couldnt go up the first year afterwards. The champions whether they are north / south / west all go in a pot, it is not based on whether they would fit into the Ryman, 12 is the max.

 

The FA need to sort out 12 divisions, 2 to go the obvious choice would be the esl and kent who have the worse facilities, or mix them too and merge say two others. Esl's grounds are (sorry guys) not much better than some step.6, step.7 which i have visited. Springfield at step.7 has a clubhouse, some esl dont, There was a thread on here about groundgradings, but the esl's clubs fall short compared to the ridgeons, with the exception of half the clubs, the other half could easily fit in the olympian. Now for a ticking off from those who think they are special... (it is my opinion, which i am entitled too as we dont live in the usa yet...lol)

 

Saying that i am mightly impressed with what Takeley have done in such a short period of time from step.7 to enclosed entrance high fences, turnstyle, clubhouse and stands covered seating and standing areas, most imporved ground. Just wonder why the rest of the esl cant get their act together.

 

i know what you're saying Mark but how many clubs have been promoted from the ridgeons in the last 40 years compared to the ESL,we have lost our best clubs.

 

 

3rd and 4th place clubs wouldnt be allowed promotion have to come top two.

[BlueManGroup]

Another season of mid-table obsecurity for Barking, poddling along, aiming to keep pretty much the same team, but i reckon we will cause a few shocks along the way...

[Grounhopper Mark.]

A top 4 finish for Bowers would be good even better if Basildon are up there with them. Out of interest can you be promoted from 2nd or 3rd maybe even 4th depending on whether the teams that finish higher have Ryman level grounds?

 

Each season there are suppose to be 12 teams coming down from step.4, 2 Ryman (isthmian) North, 2 Ryman South, 2 Southern (zamaretto) Central, 2 Southern West, 2 Northern North and 2 Northern South.

 

It never seems to happen that way, as clubs keep over spending and hitting the wall and clubs at step.4 like W.Forest, Ilford, Harlow get repreives.

 

Now for promotion there are 14 divisions, but only 12 places the rule is only one club max from each division, so unlikely 3rd or 4th but possible if say the top 3 cant go up, but then they would lose out on the points per game for all 2nd / 3rd / 4th accross the board, this is how come Witham got relegated and then couldnt go up the first year afterwards. The champions whether they are north / south / west all go in a pot, it is not based on whether they would fit into the Ryman, 12 is the max.

 

The FA need to sort out 12 divisions, 2 to go the obvious choice would be the esl and kent who have the worse facilities, or mix them too and merge say two others. Esl's grounds are (sorry guys) not much better than some step.6, step.7 which i have visited. Springfield at step.7 has a clubhouse, some esl dont, There was a thread on here about groundgradings, but the esl's clubs fall short compared to the ridgeons, with the exception of half the clubs, the other half could easily fit in the olympian. Now for a ticking off from those who think they are special... (it is my opinion, which i am entitled too as we dont live in the usa yet...lol)

 

Saying that i am mightly impressed with what Takeley have done in such a short period of time from step.7 to enclosed entrance high fences, turnstyle, clubhouse and stands covered seating and standing areas, most imporved ground. Just wonder why the rest of the esl cant get their act together.

 

i know what you're saying Mark but how many clubs have been promoted from the ridgeons in the last 40 years compared to the ESL,we have lost our best clubs.

 

 

3rd and 4th place clubs wouldnt be allowed promotion have to come top two.

 

Going back only 10 years.

AFC Sudbury

Bury Town

Needham Market

Sohyam Town Rangers

Lowestoft

Leiston

and that is the ones i can remember, lost all their top boys, but still have very good facilities. I know the esl lost Brentwood, Gt Wakring, but the likes of Canvey went with a very poor ground, they had a bus stop on the main side before Kingy came in, Concord was the same i didnt rate it at all, that as an esl ground as well. All the clubs the Ridgeons lost had good facilities at step.5. (edit Waltham Abbey ok nothing great, AFC Hx yeah include with the first two.)

Edited June 14, 2011 by Grounhopper Mark.

[Basil-Don]

A top 4 finish for Bowers would be good even better if Basildon are up there with them. Out of interest can you be promoted from 2nd or 3rd maybe even 4th depending on whether the teams that finish higher have Ryman level grounds?

 

Each season there are suppose to be 12 teams coming down from step.4, 2 Ryman (isthmian) North, 2 Ryman South, 2 Southern (zamaretto) Central, 2 Southern West, 2 Northern North and 2 Northern South.

 

It never seems to happen that way, as clubs keep over spending and hitting the wall and clubs at step.4 like W.Forest, Ilford, Harlow get repreives.

 

Now for promotion there are 14 divisions, but only 12 places the rule is only one club max from each division, so unlikely 3rd or 4th but possible if say the top 3 cant go up, but then they would lose out on the points per game for all 2nd / 3rd / 4th accross the board, this is how come Witham got relegated and then couldnt go up the first year afterwards. The champions whether they are north / south / west all go in a pot, it is not based on whether they would fit into the Ryman, 12 is the max.

 

The FA need to sort out 12 divisions, 2 to go the obvious choice would be the esl and kent who have the worse facilities, or mix them too and merge say two others. Esl's grounds are (sorry guys) not much better than some step.6, step.7 which i have visited. Springfield at step.7 has a clubhouse, some esl dont, There was a thread on here about groundgradings, but the esl's clubs fall short compared to the ridgeons, with the exception of half the clubs, the other half could easily fit in the olympian. Now for a ticking off from those who think they are special... (it is my opinion, which i am entitled too as we dont live in the usa yet...lol)

 

Saying that i am mightly impressed with what Takeley have done in such a short period of time from step.7 to enclosed entrance high fences, turnstyle, clubhouse and stands covered seating and standing areas, most imporved ground. Just wonder why the rest of the esl cant get their act together.

 

i know what you're saying Mark but how many clubs have been promoted from the ridgeons in the last 40 years compared to the ESL,we have lost our best clubs.

 

 

3rd and 4th place clubs wouldnt be allowed promotion have to come top two.

 

Going back only 10 years.

AFC Sudbury

Bury Town

Needham Market

Sohyam Town Rangers

Lowestoft

Leiston

and that is the ones i can remember, lost all their top boys, but still have very good facilities. I know the esl lost Brentwood, Gt Wakring, but the likes of Canvey went with a very poor ground, they had a bus stop on the main side before Kingy came in, Concord was the same i didnt rate it at all, that as an esl ground as well. All the clubs the Ridgeons lost had good facilities at step.5. (edit Waltham Abbey ok nothing great, AFC Hx yeah include with the first two.)

 

the fact is Mark football clubs in rural areas have more money because they are more of a focal point of the town,if you live in leiston you're more likely to be involved with your football club because apart from having sex with your cousin and drowning witches in the local lake theres bu gger all else to do.

[Grounhopper Mark.]

good post Rich.

[johnny bell]

Saying that i am mightly impressed with what Takeley have done in such a short period of time from step.7 to enclosed entrance high fences, turnstyle, clubhouse and stands covered seating and standing areas, most imporved ground. Just wonder why the rest of the esl cant get their act together.

 

 

cheers mate we have put alot of work into the ground over the last three years and its starting to look really good now just trying to raise the money so we can put a bar at the ground but it defo wont happen this season but hopefully inthe near future

[WTF]

Another season of mid-table obsecurity for Barking, poddling along, aiming to keep pretty much the same team, but i reckon we will cause a few shocks along the way...

 

 

Hang on, you've kept most of your squad, have had manager and backroom staff in place for a number of years and further more have retained the services of one Chas Liddiard - surely you should be expecting more than mid-table obscurity next season?

[slaphead]

A top 4 finish for Bowers would be good even better if Basildon are up there with them. Out of interest can you be promoted from 2nd or 3rd maybe even 4th depending on whether the teams that finish higher have Ryman level grounds?

 

2nd placed can go up if first place dont qualify but its then based on pints per match or something ask witham,nosey fecker arent you.

 

 

It's called taking an interest.

[Mark Hoffman]

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<BR>A top 4 finish for Bowers would be good even better if Basildon are up there with them. Out of interest can you be promoted from 2nd or 3rd maybe even 4th depending on whether the teams that finish higher have Ryman level grounds?<BR>

<BR><BR>Each season there are suppose to be 12 teams coming down from step.4, 2 Ryman (isthmian) North, 2 Ryman South, 2 Southern (zamaretto) Central, 2 Southern West, 2 Northern North and 2 Northern South.<BR><BR>It never seems to happen that way, as clubs keep over spending and hitting the wall and clubs at step.4 like W.Forest, Ilford, Harlow get repreives.<BR><BR>Now for promotion there are 14 divisions, but only 12 places the rule is only one club max from each division, so unlikely 3rd or 4th but possible if say the top 3 cant go up, but then they would lose out on the points per game for all 2nd / 3rd / 4th accross the board, this is how come Witham got relegated and then couldnt go up the first year afterwards. The champions whether they are north / south / west all go in a pot, it is not based on whether they would fit into the Ryman, 12 is the max.<BR><BR>The FA need to sort out 12 divisions, 2 to go the obvious choice would be the esl and kent who have the worse facilities, or mix them too and merge say two others. Esl's grounds are (sorry guys) not much better than some step.6, step.7 which i have visited. Springfield at step.7 has a clubhouse, some esl dont, There was a thread on here about groundgradings, but the esl's clubs fall short compared to the ridgeons, with the exception of half the clubs, the other half could easily fit in the olympian. Now for a ticking off from those who think they are special...<IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://www.nonleague.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/waytogo.gif"> (it is my opinion, which i am entitled too as we dont live in the usa yet...lol)<BR><BR>Saying that i am mightly impressed with what Takeley have done in such a short period of time from step.7 to enclosed entrance high fences, turnstyle, clubhouse and stands covered seating and standing areas, most imporved ground. Just wonder why the rest of the esl cant get their act together.<BR>

<BR><BR>i know what you're saying Mark but how many clubs have been promoted from the ridgeons in the last 40 years compared to the ESL,we have lost our best clubs.<BR><BR><BR>3rd and 4th place clubs wouldnt be allowed promotion have to come top two.<BR>

<BR><BR>Going back only 10 years. <BR>AFC Sudbury<BR>Bury Town<BR>Needham Market<BR>Sohyam Town Rangers<BR>Lowestoft<BR>Leiston<BR>and that is the ones i can remember, lost all their top boys, but still have very good facilities. I know the esl lost Brentwood, Gt Wakring, but the likes of Canvey went with a very poor ground, they had a bus stop on the main side before Kingy came in, Concord was the same i didnt rate it at all, that as an esl ground as well. All the clubs the Ridgeons lost had good facilities at step.5. (edit Waltham Abbey ok nothing great, AFC Hx yeah include with the first two.)<BR>

<BR><BR><BR>You missed off Maldon Town "bozo" Edited June 15, 2011 by Mark Hoffman