Fitness Test

[Jurg78]

Wouldn't have said he takes the p*ss in doing that Smudgey....I think too many people just get themselves worked up over something that, at the end of the day, is pretty irrelevant in the scheme of things!

[NICE GUY]

Wouldn't have said he takes the p*ss in doing that Smudgey....I think too many people just get themselves worked up over something that, at the end of the day, is pretty irrelevant in the scheme of things!

 

 

Maybe they are in your eyes Jurg...........now don't you start me off again....lol !!!

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[NICE GUY]

Well I ask as I was present at a game the season before last where there was a hell of a lot of needle between the two teams before the game and the ref walked in blind to this. Maybe if he'd known it might have helped both him and the temperature of the match.

 

Opening it up to people here, do you think refs should be made aware of bad blood etc or not as it may always be biased opinion that might affect decisions?

 

 

I can't speak for other refs but when i receive my fixtures i prepare for the games by looking at the previous meeting between the teams that seson (if they've played already), the teams respective league positions, current form, reading their websites and previous match reports, looking at this website too, etc. When at the ground, it is possible to pick up on 'atmospherics' and asking your ARs if they've been involved in matches with either team before can yield some useful background information, i.e. player X is gobby, player Y can be feisty, etc, etc. Watching the warm-up and the teams preparation on the pitch and in / around the tunnel can also give some pointers. Obviously, if the teams are involved in a bid for promotion or are trying to avoid relegation then the 'ante' is likely to be raised and any game with something at stake has the potential to have dramas.

 

A personal example from last season occurred when i was appointed to a 1st v 2nd game in the league between two sides on good runs of form, well-supported and ambitious in their plans - both ARs appointed were very experienced in their own right as referees and, to me, that was no coincidence. The assessor too commented before the game that the game could be feisty but having done some research i was prepared for it. As it happened, there was no needle to my mind, the players were excellent and were only interested in playing and both managements were well-behaved.

 

In summary, any game has the potential to cause dramas, often where you least expect it. However, doing my own preparation for a game would forewarn me of potential dramas and any additional information would be considered appropriately. As referees we're there to be neutral, unbiased and objective and i would hope that being so would ensure we refereed what was front of us at that time as opposed to letting what we'd heard previously affect our decision-making.

 

Gluck, if only every official was a thorough as you, but you know they are not ! Very fascinating the lengths you go to s true pro ...well done !

[Gluck_ab]

Well I ask as I was present at a game the season before last where there was a hell of a lot of needle between the two teams before the game and the ref walked in blind to this. Maybe if he'd known it might have helped both him and the temperature of the match.

 

Opening it up to people here, do you think refs should be made aware of bad blood etc or not as it may always be biased opinion that might affect decisions?

 

 

I can't speak for other refs but when i receive my fixtures i prepare for the games by looking at the previous meeting between the teams that seson (if they've played already), the teams respective league positions, current form, reading their websites and previous match reports, looking at this website too, etc. When at the ground, it is possible to pick up on 'atmospherics' and asking your ARs if they've been involved in matches with either team before can yield some useful background information, i.e. player X is gobby, player Y can be feisty, etc, etc. Watching the warm-up and the teams preparation on the pitch and in / around the tunnel can also give some pointers. Obviously, if the teams are involved in a bid for promotion or are trying to avoid relegation then the 'ante' is likely to be raised and any game with something at stake has the potential to have dramas.

 

A personal example from last season occurred when i was appointed to a 1st v 2nd game in the league between two sides on good runs of form, well-supported and ambitious in their plans - both ARs appointed were very experienced in their own right as referees and, to me, that was no coincidence. The assessor too commented before the game that the game could be feisty but having done some research i was prepared for it. As it happened, there was no needle to my mind, the players were excellent and were only interested in playing and both managements were well-behaved.

 

In summary, any game has the potential to cause dramas, often where you least expect it. However, doing my own preparation for a game would forewarn me of potential dramas and any additional information would be considered appropriately. As referees we're there to be neutral, unbiased and objective and i would hope that being so would ensure we refereed what was front of us at that time as opposed to letting what we'd heard previously affect our decision-making.

 

Gluck, if only every official was a thorough as you, but you know they are not ! Very fascinating the lengths you go to s true pro ...well done !

 

 

I doubt i'm the only referee who does their research before a game! Many of the referees on the CCL have been on it for a number of seasons and so know the characters they're likely to encounter when they referee a particular team or go to a certain ground.

[Krooner]

I think I may know you Gluck_ab

 

I would always look to see if I could find any previous in games or records. Match Officials also chat to each other so tend to find out about teams and possibly problems. When I started out on the SIL I was appointed on about my 4th game to Staines Lammas and was told by other officials what a tough side they were to ref. So I was prepared and possibly was part of the reason that in all my years of reffing Staines Lammas they never gave me any trouble either off or on it and I have met a lot of good people from that club. Just an example.

 

Same as refs. Once you get to know a referee you know in the main how to reacte to them.

 

As for NG and Duncs go and get a room

[Big J R]

I thought every game was supposed to be started, 'on a blank canvass' ?

 

Surely, studying previous 'form' is likely to taint or influence the officials view of the game even before the starting whistle has been blown ??

[Krooner]

No different to a horse race JR.

 

I once cautioned a player after 35 minutes in a game for disagreeing with every decision I made against his team in that. 2 months later I cautioned him after 5 minutes for dissent. When he said I have hardly spoken to you I stated I couldnt put up with 35 minutes of it his time.

[bomaya]

No different to a horse race JR.

 

I once cautioned a player after 35 minutes in a game for disagreeing with every decision I made against his team in that. 2 months later I cautioned him after 5 minutes for dissent. When he said I have hardly spoken to you I stated I couldnt put up with 35 minutes of it his time.

 

LOL

 

 

 

[Gluck_ab]

I thought every game was supposed to be started, 'on a blank canvass' ?

 

Surely, studying previous 'form' is likely to taint or influence the officials view of the game even before the starting whistle has been blown ??

 

JR

 

We had a presentation a few years ago at my local Referees Society by Steve Bennett, the then Premier League referee. At that i asked him a similar question about studying form and he felt that it was a matter of personal preparation. He favoured this approach as part of his preparation while he acknowledged that other referees in the Premier League favoured other approaches. In effect, each to their own and each equally successful.

 

As an example in another form, is one reason why managers, their scouts or representatives watch the games of other teams in their league if not to try and gain some knowledge of them before they play them? It might make no difference to their preparation but it then it might enable to be better prepared.

 

What Steve Bennett did say was that irrespective of his preparation he never let it affect or influence how he refereed the teams in front of him, and that each team started with a blank canvass and he started with an empty notebook!

[NICE GUY]

I think I may know you Gluck_ab

 

I would always look to see if I could find any previous in games or records. Match Officials also chat to each other so tend to find out about teams and possibly problems. When I started out on the SIL I was appointed on about my 4th game to Staines Lammas and was told by other officials what a tough side they were to ref. So I was prepared and possibly was part of the reason that in all my years of reffing Staines Lammas they never gave me any trouble either off or on it and I have met a lot of good people from that club. Just an example.

 

Same as refs. Once you get to know a referee you know in the main how to reacte to them.

 

As for NG and Duncs go and get a room

 

WHAT KROONZZZZ ! ..... AND LISTEN TO THAT VERBAL ABUSE, FOUL MOUTH RAMBLING ON AS MANY SWEAR WORDS AS HE CAN IN A MINUTE.....NO THANKS.......LOL !!!

Edited June 16, 2011 by NICE GUY

[duncs]

I think I may know you Gluck_ab

 

I would always look to see if I could find any previous in games or records. Match Officials also chat to each other so tend to find out about teams and possibly problems. When I started out on the SIL I was appointed on about my 4th game to Staines Lammas and was told by other officials what a tough side they were to ref. So I was prepared and possibly was part of the reason that in all my years of reffing Staines Lammas they never gave me any trouble either off or on it and I have met a lot of good people from that club. Just an example.

 

Same as refs. Once you get to know a referee you know in the main how to reacte to them.

 

As for NG and Duncs go and get a room

 

WHAT KROONZZZZ ! ..... AND LISTEN TO THAT VERBAL ABUSE, FOUL MOUTH RAMBLING ON AS MANY SWEAR WORDS AS HE CAN IN A MINUTE.....NO THANKS.......LOL !!!

 

 

i'll try again see if he gets it this time feck off Kent Ur Really Tedious

[Smudge]

Duncs suggest you change the venue from Kent to Hampton Wick more upmarket.

[NICE GUY]

Duncs suggest you change the venue from Kent to Hampton Wick more upmarket.

 

 

..........all aboard the Duncs bandwagon...............lol !!!

[Smudge]

Jertzee used F*CK and Bugger in another thread,did you get on his case No.

 

 

[NICE GUY]

Jertzee used F*CK and Bugger in another thread,did you get on his case No.

 

 

 

Was it aimed at me tho' .............. !

[duncs]

Jertzee used F*CK and Bugger in another thread,did you get on his case No.

 

 

 

Was it aimed at me tho' .............. !

 

 

if it wasn't it should have been..............LOL puke