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[Loose]

Stoney Ground - Like I said before we have been here a couple of years ago and got the tee shirt and I find it interesting that you say 'whether the figure was a million pounds or a penny', it was certainly much closer to a million pounds then it was to a penny wasn't it. Had the deal been more realistic then Mr Springer might have been willing to talk business but you just priced him out with an unrealistic offer knowing full well Ruislip Manor couldn't afford it and you would happily see the back of them.

 

Cliff - a couple of simple questions if you wouldn't mind answering?

 

1. Are you suggesting that groundshare negotiations were starting at over 1/2 million?

 

2. As you say they "would happily see the back of them" - well why? What has Tokington done to deserve such disdain?

[Winslow Boy]

Ha ha exactly what's I was thinking over 1/2 mil. Zero credibility in any of Rhodes posts zero intelligence zero wit zero charm zero truth.

[Rhodes]

2. As you say they "would happily see the back of them" - well why? What has Tokington done to deserve such disdain?

Loosely - The Club were still known as Ruislip Manor back then prior to Wealdstone unceremoniously showing them the door, Tokyngton Manor were still only a twinkle in Terry Springer's eye so it shows how much you know

[Stoney Ground]

Stoney Ground - Like I said before we have been here a couple of years ago and got the tee shirt and I find it interesting that you say 'whether the figure was a million pounds or a penny', it was certainly much closer to a million pounds then it was to a penny wasn't it. Had the deal been more realistic then Mr Springer might have been willing to talk business but you just priced him out with an unrealistic offer knowing full well Ruislip Manor couldn't afford it and you would happily see the back of them.

 

Correct, we have been here before but you have started sticking your nose in to a matter that you have no real facts on and made another unfounded attack on my club and the 'supporters' that run the club. Do you know the people who own the lease, who invested their money into a social club that was leaking money left right and centre.

 

It shows your level of intelligence and knowledge of facts that you claim it was more than half a million.

 

 

So what would have been a realistic price, and I mean a realistic figure not you half a million.

[Tiger007]

We are back in Rhodsey world.

[Horace]

Edited July 6, 2011 by Horace

[Loose]

2. As you say they "would happily see the back of them" - well why? What has Tokington done to deserve such disdain?

Loosely - The Club were still known as Ruislip Manor back then prior to Wealdstone unceremoniously showing them the door, Tokyngton Manor were still only a twinkle in Terry Springer's eye so it shows how much you know

 

Yes my mistake, just a typo and yet still you cannot provide answers.

 

Really Rhodes, what use are you?

[Rhodes]

Loosely - Why are you getting involved though, you know nothing whatsoever about the subject, you're just being a busy body

[Loose]

So you don't know anything either then. If you can't name the amount without posting ridiculous sums it just shows you being a busy body doesn't it?

 

BTW, any news on Tik Toks management line up this season, a few player signings maybe?

 

Or maybe they've given you the heave ho like everyone else has in which case why are you so interested in anything SSML related?

 

Never any answers just googled half baked material.

 

I rest my case Cliffy.

[Stoney Ground]

Loosely - Why are you getting involved though, you know nothing whatsoever about the subject, you're just being a busy body

 

 

And by your proven lack of facts you know even less.

 

A few questions for you try to answer sensibly.

 

1. Where or have you been involved with any of the 3 clubs involved.

 

2. Did you attend any of the meetings held in respect of Ruislip Manor when Mr Springer first came on the scene.

 

3. Do you know the actual figure that was given to Mr Springer.

 

4. Are you currently connected to Tokyngton Manor FC.

[Rhodes]

1. Are you suggesting that groundshare negotiations were starting at over 1/2 million?

Loosely - Where did I say that, all I said was that Wealdstone knew full well they were pricing Ruislip Manor out of Grosvenor Vale and there was no way in a million years the Club could afford to stay at the ground they had proudly played at since 1947. There is supposed to be a camaraderie in Non League and Grass Roots football, unlike in the Football League, but Wealdstone certainly didn't show any of that to Ruislip Manor in 2008

 

 

[NeutralFan]

1. Are you suggesting that groundshare negotiations were starting at over 1/2 million?

Loosely - Where did I say that

 

it was certainly much closer to a million pounds then it was to a penny wasn't it.

Edited July 8, 2011 by NeutralFan

[Rhodes]

2. Did you attend any of the meetings held in respect of Ruislip Manor when Mr Springer first came on the scene.

Stoney Ground - No I wasn't, to use a Military term, all present and correct at any of the meetings however I was fully debriefed by Mr Springer and recoiled in horror and disgust at what I was told

[The Doog is King]

2. Did you attend any of the meetings held in respect of Ruislip Manor when Mr Springer first came on the scene.

Stoney Ground - No I wasn't, to use a Military term, all present and correct at any of the meetings however I was fully debriefed by Mr Springer and recoiled in horror and disgust at what I was told

 

 

quality.

[Stoney Ground]

2. Did you attend any of the meetings held in respect of Ruislip Manor when Mr Springer first came on the scene.

Stoney Ground - No I wasn't, to use a Military term, all present and correct at any of the meetings however I was fully debriefed by Mr Springer and recoiled in horror and disgust at what I was told

 

The same Mr Springer who wished to pay nothing from the outset and never changed that stance, for a groundshare or any outstanding debt, not only to Ruislip Sports & Social Club but the other bodies and companies.

 

The same Mr Springer who said he would not change the clubs name.

 

The same Mr. Springer who just wanted a cubs status for his community.

 

I'm sure he told you the whole truth, so where were Wealdstone Reserves going to play

 

Can't disagree it is disgusting.

 

Sensible answer to quetion 2, how about trying 1,3 & 4 now.

 

 

Rhodes you need to look at both sides of the situation and the people involved and make rational judgements.

 

Out of the three parties involved who did most for a) Ruislip community and Ruislip Manor FC

 

A. The new owners of RMSSC.

B. Wealdstone FC

C. Terry Springer.

 

 

Please don't just blindly answer but add some substance to the reason behind your conclusion.

[Stoney Ground]

1. Are you suggesting that groundshare negotiations were starting at over 1/2 million?

Loosely - Where did I say that, all I said was that Wealdstone Ruislip Manor Sports and Social Club knew full well they were pricing Ruislip Manor out of Grosvenor Vale and there was no way in a million years the Club could afford to stay at the ground they had proudly played at since 1947. There is supposed to be a camaraderie in Non League and Grass Roots football, unlike in the Football League, but Wealdstone certainly didn't show any of that to Ruislip Manor in 2008

 

 

 

 

Rhodes, if as you have stated Mr Springer 'fully debriefed' surely you know the difference between Wealdstone FC and Ruislip Manor Sports and Social Club.

 

 

Ruislip Manor FC could not afford to stay there full stop, because if the invetors had not taken over the lease (and considerable debt) of RMS&SC, the social club wouild have gone out of business within months.

 

So realisticly it is fine saying RMFC played their since 1947, but it was a certainty there would not of been a ground to play on RMS&SC hold the lease.

[Rhodes]

Stoney Ground - I found it interesting how you suddenly appeared, as if by magic after some two years, as soon as the name Wealdstone was mentioned on here as if you had some sort of alarm set up on your computer. That would indicate you are the Club's 'trouble shooter', indeed you seem very good at deflecting criticism which you've had plenty of haven't you such as selling Lower Mead to Tesco in 1991, the ill advised groundshare at Vicarage Road and the farcical situation with the Prince Edward Playing Fields.

[Stoney Ground]

Stoney Ground - I found it interesting how you suddenly appeared, as if by magic after some two years, as soon as the name Wealdstone was mentioned on here as if you had some sort of alarm set up on your computer. That would indicate you are the Club's 'trouble shooter', indeed you seem very good at deflecting criticism which you've had plenty of haven't you such as selling Lower Mead to Tesco in 1991, the ill advised groundshare at Vicarage Road and the farcical situation with the Prince Edward Playing Fields.

 

I am not deflecting criticism trying to give you information so you can have a more balanced view, one which you may admit has been made with only partial facts.

 

Back to an earlier and indeed highlighted point by you 'camaraderie in Non League and Grass Roots football, unlike in the Football League, but Wealdstone certainly didn't show any of that to Ruislip Manor in 2008' which again is made with a lack of knowledge.

 

Wealdstone supplied not only players to Ruislip Manor for the second half of the season but also management, blows that comment right out of the water.

 

To cover the points re Lower Mead, Vicarage Road and Prince Edward yes mistakes were made and very costly they have proved to be. But other than Vicarage Road, which was down purely to the Directors involved at that time the other were more out of the clubs control.

 

As for 'suddenly appearing' and being the clubs 'trouble shooter' not at all, I veiw many football websites and look out for topics that mention the cub I follow or ex players and various other clubs that have interested me in the past. I only join in threads where I feel I can add value to the dialogue (try it sometime you might find everybody else likes it) or where I feel my club are being criticised unfairly.

[Rhodes]

A ‘cry’ for help folks:

 

Tokyngton FC seek Physiotherapist

 

Tokyngton Football Club is looking for a voluntary club physiotherapist that is prepared to be around on Saturday afternoons and midweek nights to help assist the First Team players with any injuries or knocks that might happen during the game.

It would be desirable if the physiotherapist could also attend Thursday evening training sessions to help the assessment and rehabilitation of any players.

 

In the past we have had applicants who have been in the process of training and they have found it beneficial to work with the players as part of their case studies. We will pay reasonable expenses. If you are interested in the role, please contact Terry on 0208 903 9553 or email: info@tokyngtonfc.co.uk

 

 

[Winslow Boy]

why dont you? im sure you'd like to get Protains protein