Bluetoffee Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Have been looking into Dr Moores a bit - he seems a central figure here, and one to give rise to strong feelings. It seems that lobbying and providing access to politicians - presumeably for personal business gain - is ok by him, and it might be I suppose. Anyway, one of his clients - Keith Marsden - Managing Director i-CD & 192.Com has said, "Simon helped us in a recent lobbying campaign. The objective was to influence and meet politicians and goverment officials in order to set out our point of view on a critical policy issue. The biggest challenge was of course getting their attention. This is where Simon came in, he is extremely well networked and very well respected. He was able to introduce us to people that we would otherwise have had great difficulty getting to.” I know it goes on and is legal, but it also feels a bit murky......but are we surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Can I say before I trundle off to work that the debate on here has been interesting and thank you to On The Side Lines for his/her imput. I believe that the club had a Premier League club look at the facilities at Hartsdown Park this season and were impressed with the 5,s courts which they commented was easy to control children in the facility as it was enclosed and a safe area to play, and in a world of Health and Safety they would not be running all over the park. Look at how the park has been run down over the years due to lack of investment, no cricket pitch, no pitch and put shall I go on. The council are unable or unwilling to invest in this area for the local community so as the national Tory party has said get in private investment. Many local councils would give their right arm to have private investment in place, an operator like Travelodge in place, and a community facility which has been praised by a Premier League club. The Hotel will be situated in the Football Club grounds, the area which the full size pitch will be placed was discribed by someone who oposed the plan at the public meeting, as dirty with needles left by drug addicts in this area so why not have a new facility that schools use free of charge as they do not have these facilities in their grounds, the club even provides a mini bus to collect the children from their schools. There is still ample room left in the park for recreational use. Again I will go back to my original point the council are stalling till after the election and this is a political decision for votes and not what is best for the people of Thanet and that is what is making me so angry. Are the council stalling hoping that Travelodge will go back to the council's site at Arlington House? It is a shame that so many people have such mistrust in this council, but they have brought this on themselves. As I say they could get this scheme through if they had the will as Turner. I said this council has always lacked foresight and vision and my proof look around Margate. I have lived away for the area for some time and lived under other council's and to say this council is second rate would be a compliment to them. I love this area hence why I wanted to come back, but one thing I am not any more is complacant, so at the forthcoming elections I will have my say and I hope many others will join me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Are the council stalling hoping that Travelodge will go back to the council's site at Arlington House? I heard this too. Surely Premier Inns would have something to say about that wouldnt they? It IS a fair point to take on board though,one that shouldn't be overlooked in this,if true. Edited April 27, 2011 by Cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadstairs Dave Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 The number of votes the Conservatives are losing seems to be gathering momentum, and a vote lost is a vote gained by another party so its a double whammy. I guess some can't see the wood for the trees or its EMU time. Ex tory voter in respect of local elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie100 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't know what "special favours" if any the Turner centre got so I can't really comment on anything you've just written. How about the special favour of being GIVEN two acres of PUBLIC land to build a glorified shed taking up only one acre so GIFTING KCC an acre of THANET DISTICT COUNCIL land where only 15% of the funding came from private investment to build. (Facts confirmed by Richard Samuels Executive of TDC) As for all those public consultation meeting held by TDC.......................................maybe the likes of Cllr Moores could confirm when and where these took place because I cant remember one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 While out at work today bumped into a Margate Fan who has been out canvassing against the Tory party and said that 80% of people would not be voting Tory this time round. It seems the message is getting through. We may not un seat them but hopefully they will be damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadstairs Dave Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Do the original build and use the spare space as an art gallery then watch the grants roll in ! Plus a fiver for a coffee and a cake. Simple. Can I have the catering concession PLEASE ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Have been looking into Dr Moores a bit - he seems a central figure here, and one to give rise to strong feelings. It seems that lobbying and providing access to politicians - presumeably for personal business gain - is ok by him, and it might be I suppose. Anyway, one of his clients - Keith Marsden - Managing Director i-CD & 192.Com has said, "Simon helped us in a recent lobbying campaign. The objective was to influence and meet politicians and goverment officials in order to set out our point of view on a critical policy issue. The biggest challenge was of course getting their attention. This is where Simon came in, he is extremely well networked and very well respected. He was able to introduce us to people that we would otherwise have had great difficulty getting to.” I know it goes on and is legal, but it also feels a bit murky......but are we surprised? Having just had a peep at Simon Moores blog it seems he has just quoted your post on there.Looks like he is visiting us here on a regular basis these days. He must be a worried man if that is the case! Anyway,anyone got anything nice to say about him/to him then? Edited April 27, 2011 by Cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 He at least replies to people on his blog which is pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On_The_Sidelines Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) @ Cookie, is Simon any more worried coming to this forum than anyone here is going to his? Regarding people not voting Tory this time that may well be because of MFC, it may be they want a change, may be that they confuse national/local politics or don't want to get into a debate at the doorstep, either way it is pointless basing your hopes that a newly elected "other party" will rubber stamp MFC plans, if MFC and its legal team believe that they are being done wrong then they can lodge appeals and also take it up higher, are they? As for Simon Moores, in general he is one of the "good guys" irrespective of "party politics" he understands that he is trying to serve the public, as well as hold down a full time job and have hobbies, he knows that he cannot win over everyone and doesn't try to.... enough good things? and I'm a Liberal! ...and as Pagey just posted he is accessible unlike many other councillors. Edited April 27, 2011 by On_The_Sidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Fair play,yes he does.1 god thing then.Oops,sorry I meant 1 good thing then.Thanks Pagey for pointing that one out. Edited April 27, 2011 by Cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Urchin Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Bring back labour,they done a blinding job last term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On_The_Sidelines Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Bring back labour,they done a blinding job last term At national or local level? either way I hope your being sarcastic as if they were infact "blinding" last time I'd have to ask why they got ousted and replaced by the Cons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyriding Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Have been looking into Dr Moores a bit - he seems a central figure here, and one to give rise to strong feelings. It seems that lobbying and providing access to politicians - presumeably for personal business gain - is ok by him, and it might be I suppose. Anyway, one of his clients - Keith Marsden - Managing Director i-CD & 192.Com has said, "Simon helped us in a recent lobbying campaign. The objective was to influence and meet politicians and goverment officials in order to set out our point of view on a critical policy issue. The biggest challenge was of course getting their attention. This is where Simon came in, he is extremely well networked and very well respected. He was able to introduce us to people that we would otherwise have had great difficulty getting to.” I know it goes on and is legal, but it also feels a bit murky......but are we surprised? Having just had a peep at Simon Moores blog it seems he has just quoted your post on there.Looks like he is visiting us here on a regular basis these days. He must be a worried man if that is the case! Anyway,anyone got anything nice to say about him/to him then? Yeah I do............................................. immigrate to america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) @ Cookie, is Simon any more worried coming to this forum than anyone here is going to his? Regarding people not voting Tory this time that may well be because of MFC, it may be they want a change, may be that they confuse national/local politics or don't want to get into a debate at the doorstep, either way it is pointless basing your hopes that a newly elected "other party" will rubber stamp MFC plans, if MFC and its legal team believe that they are being done wrong then they can lodge appeals and also take it up higher, are they? As for Simon Moores, in general he is one of the "good guys" irrespective of "party politics" he understands that he is trying to serve the public, as well as hold down a full time job and have hobbies, he knows that he cannot win over everyone and doesn't try to.... enough good things? and I'm a Liberal! ...and as Pagey just posted he is accessible unlike many other councillors. You really do sound like him you know.What a familiarity! Look, you talk a good talk make some fair points have the A levels to be able to write clearly and understandibly and thats nice to see but the fact remains about all this is that the new hotel WILL NOT ALTER in any way apart from losing two floors.How therefore does he/the council planning committee come to a decision which contradicts this.The clubs own architect has stated very clearly to him at the latest meeting in Westgate that there is no change materialistically or other.Sorry but someone is telling porkies here. Secondly if true & they did allow an amendment a week or so ago, why & what caused them to then change their minds immediately before last weeks Council meeting or is that obvious,i.eMay 5th?. As for the lease, when does consultation actually start to take place,I thought it had already been through that stage a long while ago but if I am mistaken & it hasn't then when does that process actually take off (excuse the pun Simon Moores) & what actually happens here with this stage of proceedings?. Edited April 27, 2011 by Cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 (edited) Yeah I do............................................. immigrate to america. Another plus then. Edited April 27, 2011 by Cookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie100 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 But its not Simon Moores fault!!! Its the "system" he would tell you.................the one that was changed by the national Conservative Government to be easier but for some strange reason has not filtered down to the Thanet Conservatives. Not that I am being cynical at all but with the plans going back to another meeting isn't that another set of allowances that can be claimed by those councillors involved????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Tom Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I wonder whether we will here anything from "On the sidelines" after May 5th, I sniff some political interference here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsie Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Blimey, this is really picking up some momentum! I see supporters even made yesterday's Thanet Times / This is Kent website, and I can't claim any credit Obviously MISA's petition showed the strength of support for the club a few weeks ago, but from the forum and elsewhere this is really heartening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Not just in the Thanet times but on the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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